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 Firebreak wrote:

But, whatever version of a mini you don't like: RAFM, Tac, Phil, NuBlitz? Just call it a Timmins-produced knock-off!

DP9 plastic Gears, proudly made in Timmins.
... that fits nicely.

For minis, I'm Phil-made all the way. Accept no substitutes.

 Firebreak wrote:
We always knew NuCoal and Peace River were going to look better. The fair reason would be that they had the benefit of experience, the snarky reason would be that they are the favourite factions of the company.

But, whatever version of a mini you don't like: RAFM, Tac, Phil, NuBlitz? Just call it a Timmins-produced knock-off!

I had to google that. Is that town where they produce the plastic minis now?

 warboss wrote:

 Firebreak wrote:
We always knew NuCoal and Peace River were going to look better. The fair reason would be that they had the benefit of experience, the snarky reason would be that they are the favourite factions of the company.

But, whatever version of a mini you don't like: RAFM, Tac, Phil, NuBlitz? Just call it a Timmins-produced knock-off!

I had to google that. Is that town where they produce the plastic minis now?

As with most locations on Terra-Nova, it's also an actual place on today's earth, though Terra Nova's Timmins is mostly known for being "that place where they make real shoddy knock-offs"

Thanks as I wasn't aware of either before today (that there was a real world Timmins in Canada nor the implication in Terra Novan lore)

There's actually a place called "Reunion" in the SRA

Did you insert that yourself into the lore back when you worked for them?

In an unrelated question, what is the most complete (in terms of the the number of perks/flaws in a single source) sourcebook for vehicle/gear creation in the HG RPG? Obviously the core book had most of the perks/flaws but (at least in 1st edition) the technical manual and various faction specific splat books had more. Was there ever a single complete repository for gear creation in any edition of the RPG?

 warboss wrote:
Did you insert that yourself into the lore back when you worked for them?

In an unrelated question, what is the most complete (in terms of the the number of perks/flaws in a single source) sourcebook for vehicle/gear creation in the HG RPG? Obviously the core book had most of the perks/flaws but (at least in 1st edition) the technical manual and various faction specific splat books had more. Was there ever a single complete repository for gear creation in any edition of the RPG?

Retroactively, yeah !
The actual Réunion island is heavily mountainous, and used to be well-known for coffee production, so... Yeah. The original writer was long gone when I got there, but the consensus was that it was most likely the actual inspiration. Much amusement was had... (I actually play Norlights)

The rulebook and tech manual probably have it together.

 HudsonD wrote:

As with most locations on Terra-Nova, it's also an actual place on today's earth, though Terra Nova's Timmins is mostly known for being "that place where they make real shoddy knock-offs"

I know there was certainly some Canadian humour inserted into some of the nations and even cities, but I've never been clear on just how tongue-in-cheek some of the name choices are. For example, I'm from the actual Perth, and TN Perth being in the stuck-up, cult-like Humanist Alliance.... kinda fits, actually.

 warboss wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:
The plastic Jerboas look cool (subjective I know), but so far the rest are ok at best.

The real pain were the mis-moulds.

Not from DP9 it self. They sent replacements out pretty quickly. But some of the people on the official forum (most of whom I haven't seen there since) seem to feel that returning a defective product was a betryal of 1980's mini buying. After all, how DARE we insist on unbroken merchandise! A "REAL MAN (tm)" would correct that .5 inch gap with green stuff, a miter saw, a jack hammer and TESTOSTERONE!

Got old a bit fast.

Yup. I mentioned before that it was the final straw for me there and I stopped posting not long after. Robert at least corrected his initial statement relatively quickly to his credit but the Faith Militant though continued their defense of the initial stance.

Well if it makes you feel better, they disappeared right after that. 7Bullets for example I don't think has posted since.

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For the current topic, I was wondering how many of those names were tongue in cheek and how many were 'we named our new city after our old one'.

Having lived 4 years there, I can tell you, there's a strong Montréal vibe in Heavy Gear, and the SRA in particular.

 Mmmpi wrote:

Well if it makes you feel better, they disappeared right after that. 7Bullets for example I don't think has posted since.

While I didn't know the exact timing, I did notice the absence of many of the most zealous (including him) in my periodic checks of the forum just like the flame that burns twice as bright saying would predict. That said.. I don't really have anything to contribute over there. I don't have any inention to test any of the new rules they're working on unless I suddenly organically meet another local HG player (I'm done trying to recruit after years of trying with nothing to show for it) and I haven't been an active customer of the company for 5+ years (I don't count 2nd hand RAFM purchases). I wish them luck and hope that I may eventually at some point be able to reap the benefits of whatever comes out the development pipeline. YMMV. My fellow dakkites over here in this hive of scum and villainy are stuck with me for the time being.

Oh, I figured you'd post there if you felt the reason. Was mostly just commenting on the sudden disappearance of the regular jerks.

I don't attribute my repeated mashing of the report button to have been the cause.

warboss wrote:

 Firebreak wrote:
We always knew NuCoal and Peace River were going to look better. The fair reason would be that they had the benefit of experience, the snarky reason would be that they are the favourite factions of the company.

But, whatever version of a mini you don't like: RAFM, Tac, Phil, NuBlitz? Just call it a Timmins-produced knock-off!

I had to google that. Is that town where they produce the plastic minis now?

HudsonD wrote:There's actually a place called "Reunion" in the SRA

...is it weird that I still can place both on TN's map without looking? >_>


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 warboss wrote:
Did you insert that yourself into the lore back when you worked for them?

In an unrelated question, what is the most complete (in terms of the the number of perks/flaws in a single source) sourcebook for vehicle/gear creation in the HG RPG? Obviously the core book had most of the perks/flaws but (at least in 1st edition) the technical manual and various faction specific splat books had more. Was there ever a single complete repository for gear creation in any edition of the RPG?

The Tech manual has the complete VCS rules for HG.

We'd think it weird if you COULDN'T.

 Albertorius wrote:

 warboss wrote:

In an unrelated question, what is the most complete (in terms of the the number of perks/flaws in a single source) sourcebook for vehicle/gear creation in the HG RPG? Obviously the core book had most of the perks/flaws but (at least in 1st edition) the technical manual and various faction specific splat books had more. Was there ever a single complete repository for gear creation in any edition of the RPG?

The Tech manual has the complete VCS rules for HG.

Firebreak wrote:We'd think it weird if you COULDN'T.

Ahahahaha

warboss wrote:Thanks. Which edition? Does it reprint the rules from the core book and include them? Or did they remove them from later core rulebooks. My only experience is with 1st ed RPG.

2nd Edition. It has everything from the main book (save the completed designs), plus the full rules and a lenghty dissertation about terranovan tech levels, materials, vehicles and everything in between. An invaluable resource to grok what's possible and what's not in setting.

IIRC, 2nd edition's core rulebook was quite limited in regards to the VCS.

Yes, the 2ed removed the VCS entirely, but it is complete in the Tech Manual, great book with lots of good info, a good read if you like technical stuff.

Thanks to you both. I don't know why but I had the sudden urge to write up a gear. Did the Chasseur (either Mk I or II) ever appear in the rpg? Or was it a purely blitz creation?

 warboss wrote:
Thanks to you both. I don't know why but I had the sudden urge to write up a gear. Did the Chasseur (either Mk I or II) ever appear in the rpg? Or was it a purely blitz creation?

Yes and no. Before the NuCoal book, the Chasseur had only appeared twice, plus a non-published third:

- First appearance in the book Heavy Gear Design Works, a couple of pics of the design and a small blurb.
- Life on Terra Nova 2nd edition: In the Erech and Nineveh section they state that TA sold the design to the twin city states and that they produced it locally in very limited quantities. It was a Jäger variant with a hover SMS and a VERY limited deployment range, but no info other than that.
- The design was actually created for the unpublished scenario "Monday Blues", which was supposed to include the stats.

That sounds like a mess... Thanks for the info as I'd never have sleuthed that out on my own.

Albertorious, I think you ARE the HG wiki.

 Firebreak wrote:
Albertorious, I think you ARE the HG wiki.

Indeed! I nominate Albertorius for the position of official Dakkadakka HG mentat. We'll need to set up a gofundme for some eyebrow extensions if he accepts.

 warboss wrote:

 Firebreak wrote:
Albertorious, I think you ARE the HG wiki.

Indeed! I nominate Albertorius for the position of official Dakkadakka HG mentat. We'll need to set up a gofundme for some eyebrow extensions if he accepts.

*donates 1lb spice, 1 British pound, 1 yen, and 1 dollar (Spanish)

But can he convert each of those denominations into their equivalents in marks and dinars??? (It took me a shamefully Canadian amount of time to remember that Southern currency was not donair.)

Considering the state of it's political meltdown, the Donar (kabab) might be the most valuable local currency in the ESE.

The GBP, and Y might have some historical value, the Spanish Dollar was last made in gold (to the best of my knowledge), so it's material value might exceed it's historical, and it depends on what kind of spice it is. Saffron is worth 100x it's weight in gears for instance.

Firebreak wrote:Albertorious, I think you ARE the HG wiki.

warboss wrote:Indeed! I nominate Albertorius for the position of official Dakkadakka HG mentat. We'll need to set up a gofundme for some eyebrow extensions if he accepts.

^_^. Well, I have the proper documentation I guess xDD



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 Mmmpi wrote:
Considering the state of it's political meltdown, the Donar (kabab) might be the most valuable local currency in the ESE.

The GBP, and Y might have some historical value, the Spanish Dollar was last made in gold (to the best of my knowledge), so it's material value might exceed it's historical, and it depends on what kind of spice it is. Saffron is worth 100x it's weight in gears for instance.

We usually call the spanish dollar "real de a ocho" (it actually took me a moment to parse it, tbh xD), and there was actually silver and gold ones (1 golden was worth 16 silver ones). Fun fact, the name "real" was due to it being stamped by the king. It was a "real de a ocho" because it was actually an 8 reales coin, and the one used (and coined) most of the time was the silver one, which was the basisi for... well, most of the silver coinage out there, including the first chinese currency in 1899 and the silver dollar.

You might be thinking of doubloons there, not reales, I think. Those were gold coins with a value of 8 escudos (32 reales). There were... a plethora of coins back there xD (for example, even the name of the doubloon hints to that, as it was literally a coin that doubled the value of a venetian ducado... and probably also because it originally features the image of both catholic kings, of course).

As to the terranovan coinage, well, interestingly enough both polar stamps have the same value , with the PR dollar going for half that, IIRC.

Nope, I was thinking of the reales. They were also the basis for the US dollar.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Nope, I was thinking of the reales. They were also the basis for the US dollar.

Then the overwhelmingly more widespread was the silver one.

I think I remember both being an influence, but it's been quite a while since I looked at the history.

Anyhoo, back to 4000+ years in the future.

What version of the rules are we currently on, and where can I get them? Last I looked into HG, DP9 was still doing beta rules. Been seeing the new plastic Peace River stuff and it's been catching my attention and getting me interested in the game again.