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Assuming that the HG Kickstarter delivers, that would be the best way to get in. Buy out someone's pledge for the new plastics.

Well, I'll leave that here :
http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/37900/General-RUMOR-Heavy-Gear-Assault-in-Trouble-Devs-Unpaid-Since-July.html

 HudsonD wrote:
Well, I'll leave that here :
http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/37900/General-RUMOR-Heavy-Gear-Assault-in-Trouble-Devs-Unpaid-Since-July.html

Interesting. I guess my estimate of 8 months since the previous funding for the same amount was a bit optimistic. Thanks for the link. Since they mentioned their forums, I took a peek there and found these:

http://massivelyop.com/2016/01/14/heavy-gear-assaults-development-may-be-in-trouble/

A second article on an online MMO news site possibly quoting the same sources.

http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1143/a-post-to-the-devs-and-publishers

And the natives getting restless... including Dakka's #1 and #2 fans, "hateful, bitter... toxic" Werewolf486 and "I'd rather lick a hutt butt" Warphound. It seems that they would have been wise to follow the advice and the bread crumbs laid out before them on this shamefully negative hive of scum and villainy that we call DakkaDakka.




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I'm curious if Canadian law mandates reporting something like allegedly not paying your employees for months prior to offering the public a new stock offering round worth millions... If those employees are mistaken in their claims, it obviously wouldn't be an issue but if they're not...

 warboss wrote:

http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1143/a-post-to-the-devs-and-publishers
And the natives getting restless... (...)

That thread, and the whole section it was in, are not public anymore, as of a few minutes ago...

I'm just looking to score some sweet pre-Blitz North & South minis if/when people switch their collections to plastic. Maybe.

Brutal. Anytime my paycheck bounces, I'd be looking for another job immediately, no matter what the company said.

While I didn't like the product, or the direction they seemed to be taking, I'm a little bummed in that I would've liked to have seen a successful Heavy Gear video game, and that's unlikely to ever happen now.

Well, Assault's predictable failure was, well, predictable, but it's also going to hurt proper Heavy Gear. Because now when you google "Heavy Gear", you get stories of failure! Plus nobody's going to jump on a video game again any time soon, unless the tabletop version gets wildly popular. Maybe we'll be blessed with a mobile title.

On another note, is the 'd loonie going to hurt the Pod at all? I know nothing's being made here, but it is still a Canadian company. And our dollar's getting worse every day.

ferrous wrote:
Brutal. Anytime my paycheck bounces, I'd be looking for another job immediately, no matter what the company said.

If the company looks like it's not going to pay me, I'm looking to get out before my paycheck fails to appear.

And who the feth can afford to work for 6 months, no pay? That's insane.

I'd start encrypting the files and demand back wages with interest, or no decryption key...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

I'd start encrypting the files and demand back wages with interest, or no decryption key...

Perhaps there will be a "leak" in the near future, if enough people get disgruntled enough.

It does appear that stompy/mek locked down out of sight the thread I previously linked though there is a friendlier thread with a response from the company in the general discussion forum with a free round of koolaid on the house to shore up doubts expressed in the missing thread.

http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1144/official-response-to-current-rumours

Fortunately for us, the commentary under the article Hudson linked has gotten quite interesting since this morning to make up for the curious case of the missing thread .

 HudsonD wrote:

 warboss wrote:
http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1143/a-post-to-the-devs-and-publishers
And the natives getting restless... (...)

That thread, and the whole section it was in, are not public anymore, as of a few minutes ago...

 warboss wrote:
It does appear that stompy/mek locked down out of sight the thread I previously linked though there is a friendlier thread with a response from the company in the general discussion forum with a free round of koolaid on the house to shore up doubts expressed in the missing thread.
http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1144/official-response-to-current-rumours
Fortunately for us, the commentary under the article Hudson linked has gotten quite interesting since this morning to make up for the curious case of the missing thread .

Oh judas priest - those kind of folks never manage to understand immediately restricting/pruning/locking a thread conversation generates a perception that only adds fuel to the fire they're trying to put out.
Dumb, incredibly dumb, and the information always gets out anyways.


Likewise, if the Stompy folks truly wanted to get ahead of this thing and do useful damage control, showing that the $$$ they have collected from folks for the game or stock matters to their organization, they should already have posted to both Facebook and G+.
But guess what, they haven't as yet, and seem intent on trying to keep everything localized to the initial news articles and their own forum.



The bit in the rumor article about having to cut back spending yet being unable to have a meeting as a board member was in South America is pretty good.
''During regression testing the production has been restructured.'' is a rather questionable mouthful of management-speak though, even more so when you think on the fact that something as simple as a set of PC requirements for the game has never been officially released.

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 Smilodon_UP wrote:
Oh judas priest - those kind of folks never manage to understand immediately restricting/pruning/locking a thread conversation generates a perception that only adds fuel to the fire they're trying to put out.
Dumb, incredibly dumb, and the information always gets out anyways.

Well, on the other hand, if they were competent enough to realize that, they'd probably be able to avoid getting into that kinda mess in the first place anyway.

Seriously pissed Dev wrote:@tekadept you certainly have been making plenty of noise in the past 24 hours on the interwebz about this. I am glad you are such a passionate fan and looking for truth and answers. Thanks for your support!
Here are some answers for you(...)

forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1144/official-response-to-current-rumours

Man, talk about sounding really, really annoyed at someone

 HudsonD wrote:
Man, talk about sounding really, really annoyed at someone

Heh, yeah, I thought exactly the same when I read that ^_^

 HudsonD wrote:

Seriously pissed Dev wrote:@tekadept you certainly have been making plenty of noise in the past 24 hours on the interwebz about this. I am glad you are such a passionate fan and looking for truth and answers. Thanks for your support!
Here are some answers for you(...)

forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1144/official-response-to-current-rumours

Man, talk about sounding really, really annoyed at someone

tekadept must be their Smilodon.

 Firebreak wrote:

 HudsonD wrote:

Seriously pissed Dev wrote:@tekadept you certainly have been making plenty of noise in the past 24 hours on the interwebz about this. I am glad you are such a passionate fan and looking for truth and answers. Thanks for your support!
Here are some answers for you(...)

forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1144/official-response-to-current-rumours
Man, talk about sounding really, really annoyed at someone

tekadept must be their Smilodon.

heh, Those poor mountebanks*.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

ferrous wrote:
Brutal. Anytime my paycheck bounces, I'd be looking for another job immediately, no matter what the company said.

If the company looks like it's not going to pay me, I'm looking to get out before my paycheck fails to appear.
And who the feth can afford to work for 6 months, no pay? That's insane.
I'd start encrypting the files and demand back wages with interest, or no decryption key...

Yeah - there isn't a whole lot of practical difference between being laid off for six months or not being paid for six months of work, other than the level of effort required.

It seems pretty questionable for the dev(s) on the HG:Assault site to claim a lay off in all but name serves to better answer the initial rumor news of nobody being paid on time over the course of months.



*As calling folks bastards when referring to a group is a bit impolite.

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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'm just looking to score some sweet pre-Blitz North & South minis if/when people switch their collections to plastic. Maybe.

Pre-Blitz (aka Tactical) minis tend to be pretty cheap now anyways. I doubt they'll get much cheaper. The blitz era metals are the likely ones to drop in price when replaced by plastics. I'm not sure if you were combining the two into one though in your post as they're similar but not the same (different styling of the minis similar to 2nd edition marines and modern ones in 40k).

The reason the game was reasonably good was that you couldn't just exchange fire and destroy the enemy. That's unfortunate that they're diminishing how maneuver was *literally* everything.

Really, some tweaks to the old Blitz rules would have been fine. Strip out some of the RPG conversions, streamline weapons, change the way IF and ECM worked and some army building rules and then we're good. There were interesting and unique concepts that I found great, such as Priority Level when building your army.

Alas.

Yeah, pre-Blitz / post-RAFM "Tactical" minis (I forget the name)!

The weapons are more "true scale" (but so bendy!) than the Blitz weapons.

However, I suppose I'd be OK with early Blitz Cobras / Kodiaks, simply because the models are that much bigger...
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For whatever reason, I'm just not seeing the Tactical minis come up very often.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Yeah, pre-Blitz / post-RAFM "Tactical" minis (I forget the name)!

The weapons are more "true scale" (but so bendy!) than the Blitz weapons.

However, I suppose I'd be OK with early Blitz Cobras / Kodiaks, simply because the models are that much bigger...
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For whatever reason, I'm just not seeing the Tactical minis come up very often.

I'm a bit biased (against tactical scale version minis) but I suspect that they don't come up often as they weren't as popular. Their release coincided with DP9 double screwing over fans by replacing both minis and RPG books which lost them fans. Further rehashed editions came out and they followed it up a few years later with DP9's "hollywood quebecois" phase where they just dropped the industry almost completely to explore their inner movie magnate. When they finally came crawling back, the blitz minis were very well received. All of the above couldn't have helped sales.

So you prefer the more true scaled tiny weapons then? It worked in the RAFM scale but didn't translate well to tactical IMO. I'm personally a big fan of the later exaggerated styling at 1/144. Ironically, I've been saving two RAFM scale bazookas to use on my unbuilt kodiaks as HBZK.

I prefer the Tactical minis because they match what I already own.

 Killionaire wrote:
The reason the game was reasonably good was that you couldn't just exchange fire and destroy the enemy. That's unfortunate that they're diminishing how maneuver was *literally* everything.

You mean NuBlitz versus Blitzv1? What they are calling the living rulebook versus the version with multipliers?

The pdf I looked at was still called Blitz unfortunately as I suspect it will lead to confusion. IMO they should just go back to the basic name with the reboot to Heavy Gear just like D&D and Tomb Raider did. That is of course assuming the didn't license off the basic name to the rpg or AAA esports alpha project. If they're coming out with a very different set of noncompatible rules, the name should reflect that at a glance (similar to adding blitz did in 2005ish).

They keep making chibis and soon we can call it Heavy Gear SD.

"Blitz 3.0"

(Note that I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming from a semi-casual intrest that this would be the 3rd iteration of "Blitz", itself the 3rd major iteration after RPG & Tactical).

 IceRaptor wrote:
What they are calling the living rulebook versus the version with multipliers?

''Heavy Gear Blitz Tabletop Wargaming Living Rulebook Beta (ebook September 30th 2015 Update)''

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Yeah, though I really don't understand why the acronymn-fetishizing Pod doesn't rechristen it as the HGB TTWG LRB Beta...

 IceRaptor wrote:
What they are calling the living rulebook versus the version with multipliers?

I don't know about them, but personally I call the way they "update" the files over at DrivethruRPG "a mess". So much that I gave up some time ago of knowing heads from tails.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
"Blitz 3.0"

(Note that I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming from a semi-casual intrest that this would be the 3rd iteration of "Blitz", itself the 3rd major iteration after RPG & Tactical).

4th, by my count. So, this Kickstarted edition will be the sixth edition of the wargame/miniatures rules in twelve years - the same as the number of 40k editions in the same time.

Which version was it where the two sides could have different Priority levels, which affected the mission you carried out and the morale level of your forces? Was that Blitz 1.0 or the Miniatures Rules which preceded Blitz? I get confused.

All I wanted was some HC3 scout cars, and I'm still waiting, three or more years later.

Starship Troopers had something like that, where different priority levels affected the mission and I think the morale.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
"Blitz 3.0"

(Note that I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming from a semi-casual intrest that this would be the 3rd iteration of "Blitz", itself the 3rd major iteration after RPG & Tactical).

4th, by my count. So, this Kickstarted edition will be the sixth edition of the wargame/miniatures rules in twelve years - the same as the number of 40k editions in the same time.

Which version was it where the two sides could have different Priority levels, which affected the mission you carried out and the morale level of your forces? Was that Blitz 1.0 or the Miniatures Rules which preceded Blitz? I get confused.

All I wanted was some HC3 scout cars, and I'm still waiting, three or more years later.

Yup, the last two versions of Blitz at least had it (I don't recall if the original blitz did though but it might have as well) as did starship troopers. I think it was a good idea in theory but never really implemented very well. Things like Earth hovertanks being best used in an unimportant backwoods reserve PL1 force felt odd to me... and then the Field Manual largely removed the benefits to using a low PL force (less objectives required) but you still had less veteran slots and support points. I can't comment on the finer points of Starship Troopers' version of the same idea as I've never played it. I've got the book though but I focused on learning the general game mechanics more than anything.

Yup, this entirely new set of rules is Blitz 4th edition effectively as you said. Original Blitz, Locked and Loaded, and Field Manual were the mutually exclusive blitz rulesets prior. I guess you might even call it the fifth if you count the "alpha" version from a year or two ago when first released as another since the differences between the original alpha and whatever is actually released this summer likely meet or exceed the differences between the others listed above.