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Is there anyone who could tell me (or demonstrate via the medium of helpful(and brightly coloured)pictures or videos) how someone would fight against a lunatic with a huge-ass sword when your hand is all crackly.
It's just a bit immersion breaking for me. Like how I still don't quite understand why bikes work like they do on CC, in that they get bogged down and seem to lose momentum. Just seems weird is all.
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Seriously though, I imagine a power fist might be used in a similar fashion as a punch buckler, namely to deflect, bind, and bash said lunatic with a huge-ass sword.
DEUS VULT wrote: Uh, welcome to 40k?
Seriously though, I imagine a power fist might be used in a similar fashion as a punch buckler, namely to deflect, bind, and bash said lunatic with a huge-ass sword.
I have been playing for best part of 5 years y'know, i aint some green scrubnub! i'm sorry that sounded mean
but the whole unwieldy thing makes me think of roundhouse haymakers, yet the image of 9ft tall termies swaying like a bunch of anime characters after punching seems a tad laughable.
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Thus ending the true and grandest conflict of 40k.
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DEUS VULT wrote: Uh, welcome to 40k?
Seriously though, I imagine a power fist might be used in a similar fashion as a punch buckler, namely to deflect, bind, and bash said lunatic with a huge-ass sword.
I have been playing for best part of 5 years y'know, i aint some green scrubnub! i'm sorry that sounded mean
but the whole unwieldy thing makes me think of roundhouse haymakers, yet the image of 9ft tall termies swaying like a bunch of anime characters after punching seems a tad laughable.
but the buckler idea makes sense
Ha, no offense taken, dude. I frequently find myself questioning most of the combat fluff in 40k, rage about it for awhile, then remember sci-fi written by pasty white dudes.
Grabbing things, tearing off armor, occasionally punching things.
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Is there anyone who could tell me (or demonstrate via the medium of helpful(and brightly coloured)pictures or videos) how someone would fight against a lunatic with a huge-ass sword when your hand is all crackly.
Easy. Punch, poke, slap, grab, crush, pull, backhand and finish it up with a karate chop.
Grabbing, tearing, and crushing is probably the most common anti-tank attacks for a power fist. Crushing a tank barrel, tearing off treads, ripping through armor plates, etc.
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Thus ending the true and grandest conflict of 40k.
The contest of thievery between the Blood Ravens and Trazyn.
I think the difficulty is trying to understand why the powerfist strikes last as opposed to other weapons. The above video demonstrates that it "charges up" before punching. I always figured it was slow to attack because you grabbed someone with the powerfist, and then slowly crushed them.
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A greater question would be how Lightning Claws work in a fight. Power Fists are fairly obvious, you smash somebody's face in, rip apart a tank, grab power weapons and rip them away from their user, etc. Lightning Claws look good, but they've always seemed redundant, especially on terminators. Always thought they made more sense as a Raptor weapon.
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I like to image my dual fist chaos lord just kinda picks people up and squeezes them.
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Melissia wrote: Grabbing, tearing, and crushing is probably the most common anti-tank attacks for a power fist. Crushing a tank barrel, tearing off treads, ripping through armor plates, etc.
Sounds spot on like what my Ork warboss does with his Klaw... No other model in my collection has as many Land Raider kills.
As fer the Lightning Claws, they discharge a electrical blast whenever they strike, i would assume its because the individual claws are charged and once they touch something they complete the circut and the capacitors discharge hence the Lightning thing.
As fer the Lightning Claws, they discharge a electrical blast whenever they strike, i would assume its because the individual claws are charged and once they touch something they complete the circut and the capacitors discharge hence the Lightning thing.
Not that. It just seems even more unwieldy than a powerfist where you just stuck power swords on the knuckles of the power fist/fingers. While it's great for Raptors, who transfer their momentum into force being the claws as they grab enemies off the ground and flay them, for terminators it just looks like a stupid weapon. It's nearly impossible to defend your back and leaves your movement limited compared to other options like a power sword or even a powerfist. It looks cool, but would be fairly stupid in application compared to better weapons available.
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I imagine its a compilation of shield and weapon. Its massive & has a disruption field surrounding it. With the field projected an inch from the gauntlet I'd say it puts up a area of protection 1 foot wide & 2 and a half long. You could block well with it. On offense I'd say its a fighting stance similar to fencing, except with a huge gauntlet instead of a foil.
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When you fence, your stance is one that minimizes the amount of you that is presented to the opponent, and you use the sword as both a means of defense and attack. Fencers can practice without swords if they want, using just their arms, it just gets them a little closer together. In this case? You've got something you can easily move in the way of oncoming attacks, and to attack with it, you simply step forward and grab/punch/poke (it's got a matter-dissolving energy field, after all).
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d-usa wrote: How do you fight with power fists? Watch Hulk.
How do you fight with power claws? Watch Wolverine.
Only those don't work as the weapons are proportionally gigantic. If lightning claws were smaller that'd make sense, but even in the fluff they're typically the size of an Astartes' torso. And unweidly even for someone in power armor. Unlessl you have the advantage of high ground like with an Assault Marine/Raptor, lightning claws just constrict movement for a Terminator or ground-bound foot slogger and have a limited range of possible strikes. It only makes sense when it's actually an augmented limb, like with Huron Blackheart who's height is massively increased and has an entire side of his body replaced with cybernetics.
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Most other weapons have a cutting edge - axe, sword, claw, etc.
Even a hammer or maul has a relatively small surface area compared to the fist.
Possibilities:
Due to proximity to the body, power field must be switched on and allowed to charge immediately prior to strike so to not risk accidentally damaging your own armor.
Owing to its bulky and cumbersome nature versus other weapons, the fist is meant to retaliate against an opponent while they are in follow-through and incapable of parrying or dodging with much success.
It'd also be extremely difficult to carry that weight.
Imagine carrying an axe. There is a definite handle, the entire rest of your body can compensate, and it is relatively light compared to:
Some massive gauntlet encompassing your entire hand and normally depicted to be the size of a torso. That would massively throw off your balance - and we can assume would stress the ability of power armor to compensate for the weight differential.
In fact, one hilarious thought / mental image:
The powerfist actually has a built in anti-grav unit. It strikes last, because power is diverted from the anti-grav to the power field at the last second, allowing the momentum of the fist to tear its way through the body of whatever the guy is striking. Again: Comes down to waiting for the field to power-up, while your enemy is happily hacking away without any kind of downtime.
Red Marine wrote: I imagine its a compilation of shield and weapon. Its massive & has a disruption field surrounding it. With the field projected an inch from the gauntlet I'd say it puts up a area of protection 1 foot wide & 2 and a half long. You could block well with it. On offense I'd say its a fighting stance similar to fencing, except with a huge gauntlet instead of a foil.
I actually agree.
Creating a minimal stance yet with a huge fist up in a guard would be the optimum way to fight, the fighter could then close on the enemy whilst being able to block the vast majority of attacks to then unleash with small but fast hammerfist attacks and jabs, assuming the fist is forward, if it is rear it would be used in conjunction with the weapon in the left and be a huge make or break shot. If the fight got close, will, it would make grappling very easy, grabbing an opponent's collar bone and just squeezing till it is no more. That's how it should work in theory, just winding up for huge powershots like the dawn of war video is illogical in a real world application of it, a good swordsmen would have striked and created distance by then if the strike wasn't a crippling or killing blow.
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d-usa wrote: How do you fight with power fists? Watch Hulk.
How do you fight with power claws? Watch Wolverine.
Only those don't work as the weapons are proportionally gigantic. If lightning claws were smaller that'd make sense, but even in the fluff they're typically the size of an Astartes' torso. And unweidly even for someone in power armor. Unlessl you have the advantage of high ground like with an Assault Marine/Raptor, lightning claws just constrict movement for a Terminator or ground-bound foot slogger and have a limited range of possible strikes. It only makes sense when it's actually an augmented limb, like with Huron Blackheart who's height is massively increased and has an entire side of his body replaced with cybernetics.
Well the Imperial Guard commanders from Dawn of War got along just fine with some simple gauntlet lightning claws. Granted they weren't the behemoth ones you see mounted on Terminators. Those guys I assumed would pick a nice, wide open area surrounded with enemies and just start thrashing wildly, taking out everything in a large radius.
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