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How many points are the regular RTTs again?

 Blackmoor wrote:
How many points are the regular RTTs again?

1750 is the new standard at the store.

All events unless otherwise noted are 1750

Two unusual things happened at this tourney.

I won my Round 1.

I didn't have any broken models by day's end.

Even more unusual, I won Best Sportsman. Am I getting that soft and fun to play against?

I was home with children.

How many came, what were the missions, who won best painted that they could beat Mike, and who won with what army?

Mike and Casey, what excitement was there to be had?

17 guys.

Mission 1: Crusade/Dawn of War.
Special: On your turn, roll. On a 1 or 2, Warlords have to head for each other in a h2h grudge match. I had a XV8 Cmdr and Tony had The Great Uncleaned one. I made all my "Keep Your Cool" checks and did not heedlessly head into danger.

Mission 2: Purge the Alien/Hammer&Anvil.
Special goofery:
Swap a traitor. Give the enemy an Elite model (or FA, then HS, etc). Worth 3 total VPs in a Purge the Alien mission. Chris T gave me an IG psycher, who, without his other 9 buddies, was useless. Chris got a Helios suit from me, but under utilized him.

Mission 3: Big Guns/Vanguard
Hysterical Heresy (my name for it). Every shooting phase, each unit takes a leadership check. If failed, opponent gets to have your unit shoot nearest friendly. If that unit was within 12" of the Warlord, you could use IG's Summary Execution to keep the unit in line.

I failed 10 leadership tests during that match. I didn't have to get shot much by my own crew as I had spread them out (with Outflank and such) but, it made for 10 "do-nothing" opportunites.

I will make sure to ask for a grudge-match challenge in the next tourney. I've now lost to Jay T. three times.

Jonathan is now the 3 time champion for 2014. Grav bikes and drop pods.
MikeFox was Best Sport. He had some IG and SW.
Rex's florescent eldar for Best Paint.
Travis found another Flames of War rule book and gave it to Tony for a Wooden Spoon.
Alex D's daemon crew won Best Xeno performance (his first time at G.E.).
... and Best Imperial escapes me.

Thanks for the update. Will try and make the next one, but Middle School years are hell.

 sgtpjbarker wrote:
Thanks for the update. Will try and make the next one, but Middle School years are hell.

True-dat.

3.5 years after leaving MS, I still smell like brimstone.

Yeah it went well. I'll be more interested in see what people bring next month. My Baneblade is already painted up and weathered. Just need to finish orkifing my Vengeance batteries I got yesterday. I'm bring everything; Super heavy, fortification, and allies. Be ready for some silly!

I'd say the tournament was largely a ton of fun, the last mission special rule was kinda bleh though. Not fun when you fail 16 LD tests in 4 turns... I basically did nothing all game.

So.... questions for next month that you miiiiiight want to think about now... due to the.... vagueness that is GW.

1. Say a unit of warp spiders score 5 hits on a unit of marines under 1 layer of void shield. If the first hit is a 6, and thus pops the void shield, do the other 4 shots go on to hit the marines? What if there's 3 layers? Do the subsequent shots go on to try and take down the other layers?

2. Say we go with any hits leftover after a void shield layer goes down does indeed get allocated inside the (now downed) shield, how do blasts work? Do blasts only score 1 hit while the void shield is up (on the shield layer itself) or do you get as many hits as you normally would under the template and just roll each hit seperately, ala above?

Also, while it was fun and all to have shenanigans this last tourney, we should probably think about not having quite as many shenanigans this coming month, since the whole event is testing and shenanigans enough. You don't want to skew the test for whether these things will be allowed all the time to be tainted with say having to swap super heavies or fortifications with your opponent.

The way I have interpreted things is that for both blasts/normal you get the number of hits as normal as if the shield wasnt there.

So blasts would still be centered on whatever you shot at, generating however many hits it normally would..

Then the shield takes those hits until it goes down, at which point you can go after the main reactor and all subsequent hits are handled as normal.

Seems to make the most sense/least amount of silly.

Also that just made me think of an apoc scenario recreating ep VI where a kill team on one table is attempting to take down the shield reactor protecting some uber cannon on the apoc table... could be fun.

Both questions are very good. Ill double check them with Travis tomorrow night for clarification.

As for missions they will be very toned down. Basic missions with super minor tweaks. No crazy special rules or anything. One might involve Lord of War units arriving on turn two instead of one, another with a randomly placed relic. I'm still mussing.

And to you Game and Watch, when I wrote the mission you rolled a d6 and on a 1 you had to shoot the closest friendly unit. Travis changed it to a LD test, sorry you didnt have any fun with that game. Ill take that into consideration for future silly missions.

I would also be careful with say having the SHs have to come in second turn if they exist. That cause all kinds of ruckus, like pod armies having nearly nothing to shoot at/the thing they were brought to shoot at, or the player being tabled way too easily because they only had 4 units on the board to start with.

Its a rule straight from the Escalation book and one of the draw backs of taking 900 pts in a single model. It will be up to Travis in the end. But I dont think thats a bad thing. Ive played in Super Heavy Tournaments before and that rule worked fine. But your concern has been noted and will be taken into consideration.

Nevermind, not funny enough.

 MikeFox wrote:
And to you Game and Watch, when I wrote the mission you rolled a d6 and on a 1 you had to shoot the closest friendly unit. Travis changed it to a LD test, sorry you didnt have any fun with that game. Ill take that into consideration for future silly missions.

Not a huge deal, and it certainly didn't help that most of my army was low LD (and by low I mean majority LD7), but hmm... I don't know if yours would be better or worse, probably better for me worse for the higher leadership armies.

Otherwise though the tournament was a blast, it was great to see new people and new armies!

Just a last bit, I guess the only other complaint I would have is we (the group as a whole) were having trouble finishing games, and that rule was definitely slowing the game down... Just something to think about!

I'm confused. Where in the Escalation book does it say Lords of War must come in on turn 2?

Also Mike, you may want to clarify the painting and modeling requirements (if there are any) for the Lords of War.

Its not a universal rule, its a special rule for one of the missions in the book. And agreed extra mission rules have been bogging down play so Ill scale them back in the future.

Escalation Mission 5 I think. Impending Doom or something like that; any Lord of War units start in reserve and arrive turn 2 with no rolling. I figure they are stuck at the drive through. We can play test that idea tonight if you want.


First post has been updated to reflect and Ill state it again here.

LORD OF WAR UNITS/FORTIFICATIONS: Must be painted to a 3 color minimal standard. In addition there will be no proxy models allowed; so no Guandum Revanent Titans. All models must be WYSIWYG with there weapons. If you have a scratchbuild model it must pass approval from Travis first, so send me an image of it that I can show him.

This is what I was planning on using for my void shield generator:

Size wise it's pretty much bang on 4x4x4 (i think its 4.5x4x4)

There is much win with that. Can not wait to see this painted and in play. Mines going to be based on a Vengeance weapons platform.

ALSO THE EVENT HAD BEEN BUMPED TO 1850 POINTS.

In regards to the Void Shield being shot at; Travis will be doing more research into it this week. But preliminary thoughts are blasts count as one hit, regardless to how many models would be under the template. Also if there are extra shots after the void shield goes down, ie 4 auto cannon shots pen and knock down 3 void shields, the left over shots are discarded. Again there will be an official ruling from Travis before the tournament.

Less then one week people. I want to see some painted Super heavies here.

So Casey and I just played a test game. I had a Knight and BaneBlade against his deep striking Tau suit army with dual Void Shields.

And let me tell you double void shields is very hard on shooting armies. When the two buildings are in 12'' of each other you have to take down 6 AV12 walls. So everyone be aware that you might want to have a bunch of high volume, medium STR weapons. Or drop pod in.

I lost but when super heavies blow up, they take a lot with them.

 MikeFox wrote:
Less then one week people. I want to see some painted Super heavies here.

So Casey and I just played a test game. I had a Knight and BaneBlade against his deep striking Tau suit army with dual Void Shields.

And let me tell you double void shields is very hard on shooting armies. When the two buildings are in 12'' of each other you have to take down 6 AV12 walls. So everyone be aware that you might want to have a bunch of high volume, medium STR weapons. Or drop pod in.

I lost but when super heavies blow up, they take a lot with them.

You may want to check the FAQ on Void Shields, I don't have the link at handy work right now, but I am pretty sure GW clarified that the Void Shields come from a single generator but you purchase extra shields. I think. I will check when I have better access to the materials.

I believe its a generator gets up to 3 shields, so he has 2 generators for 6 shields total.

Also for next month's fluff campaign can we allow FW? I, at least, plan on going all out vehicles, no grav in sight, and would love to have my mortis contemptor get in on the action.

Yeah casey had 2 genis each with 3 shields. Its a pain in the ass to deal with.

 MikeFox wrote:
Yeah casey had 2 genis each with 3 shields. Its a pain in the ass to deal with.

Dirt cheap in points, too.

Castling will take on new meaning.

How did he fit in 2 gens? Don't you only get 1 fortification slot at under 2k? I thought the only way to get 2 gens is with the void shield array relay thing that has 3 gens and the promethium pipe.

With the relay you can take 0-3 shields

Nifty, tell me he had a line of torrent firing crisis suits with flamers at least, cause that would be HILARIOUS.