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Doom rider 270pts

WS. Bs s. . T. A. I . W. LD sv
5. 5. 6. . 7. 5. 5 3. 9. 2+

Type
Monstrous biker - monstrous creature on a bike special rules combine. (unique)

Wargear: Bolt pistol, chainsword

Special rules:

Crack crazed: Doom rider is so addicted to slaaneshi drugs that he fills his helmet full of them. Every turn roll on this chart and opimmediatly apply the result.

1 - what even is this?? No change
2- Human drugs?? -2 Iniative -2 strength
3- Khorne +1attack +1 strength
4- Nurgle +1 wound +1toughness
5- Tzeentch 5+ invulnerable
6- Slaanesh +1 ws,bs and ld, gain of sexual pleasure special rule

Sexual pleasure - Since doom rider belongs to slaanesh he occasionally succumbs to the pure lust of his god. Mark every kill doom rider makes that turn, when this power is active, subtract the number of wounds he sustained and divide by 2 rounding down. This is the number of throws on the crack crazed table you can make.

Master biker - Doom rider can turbo boost and fire all his weapons in the same turn.

Godly hatred- Doom rider has hatred special rule for any Khorne unit or any unit with the mark of khorne. May not take mark of khorne

Wargear

Bike of pleasure - Doom riders bike is a monstrosity. It runs on pure warp energy. Such is the way of the warp that the bike can travel into the warp with ease. Doom rider must start in reserve even in missions which may not allow it. He must deep strike in however when he comes from reserve. Doom riders bike offers him better protection than his armour, this is already shown in his profile as well as the additonal stregnth offered by any bike, this strength however is always counted for all wounds. The bike has 2 noise cannons and a pleasure cannon.

Pleasure cannon: str. Ap type
6. 3. Posion 3+ heavy 3

May be equipped with: Daemonic sword 10pts , power fist 10pts, plasma pistol 10pts
Bolt gun 2pts , chainfist 15pts, power sword 5pts

I don't know how serious this is.

It is cheap for what it can do and that's to much stuff. I mean those drug rolls are insane, and how cumulative are they? Like if you get 4crack crazed rolls and 3 of them are nurgle, do you really get T 10 and +3 wounds?

Waaaaaay off what he used to be.

Also why the heck would you give it a power sword upgrade? Its attacks are already AP 2 for having smash from being a MC

How about (more seriously), this?

Doomerider (230 points)

WS 6 BS 5 S6 T6 W 4 I6 A4 Ld 10 Sv 3+/5++

Wargear: Chaos Bike with twin-linked meltagun (T included in profile), Damocles, Plasmagun, Dirgecasters.

Special Rules: Daemon, Daemon of Slaanesh, Spectral Bikers, Split Attention, Smash, Hit and Run, Soulreaper.

Damocles: Doomrider's sword is an ancient and powerful weapon forged directly from his predecessor, a Keeper of Secrets known as Valdethari. It has the following profile:

Rng - S +2 AP3 Melee, Daemon Weapon, Soul Blaze.

Split Attention: Doomrider may fire two ranged weapons in the same shooting phase in the same manner as a Monstrous Creature.

Spectral Bikers: Doomrider never rides alone. Any unit of Chaos Bikers in an army led by Doomrider may purchase the Daemon, Daemon of Slaanesh and Soulreaper special rules for +6 points/model. These models may not purchase a Mark of Chaos.

Soulreaper: A unit with the Soulreaper rule may attempt to make a special kind of Assault move called Soulreaping instead of making a normal assault.

The unit assaults 4d6" instead of 2d6". Instead of moving them into combat, however, move them in a straight line the number of inches rolled. Each model with the Soulreaper rule may make d3 attacks against every unit passed over unless the target unit passes an Initiative test against that model. The Soulreaper unit may not use this ability if it would result in the Soulreapers ending their move within 1" of an enemy model.

Add a line where he can Make Bike squadrons Troops and name ONE of those provided that they have the MoS into Spectral Bikers.

Soulreaper should be done in the Movement phase, but they must Turboboost for using it, and no Init test, units that gets VStriked by FMC or units that gets on the way of DE Reaver squadrons doesn't get to make an Init test, so i don't why here they would.

And this is for the mood, from a buddy at B&C.

Faster than a Las-bolt
Terrifying scream
He's fueled by Coke and Metal
He is Daemon and machine
He's the Daemon biker
Breathing coke and fire
Summoned by the cultists he is nigh

He. Is. The Doomrider
This. Is. The Doomrider

Planets devastated
Mankind's on its knees
A Daemon comes from out the Warp because a psyker sneezed
Drowning out arty thunder
Brandishing his steel
Evil is now riding deadly wheels

He. Is. The Doomrider
This. Is. The Doomrider
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

*Instumental*

Faster than a Bolter Rocket
Louder than a Noise Marine
Chromium plated daemon metal
Better than the Thousand Sons

*Instumental*

Riding high on cocaine
Wreathed in eldritch fire
Armed with daemon weapons
He lights their funeral pyres
Firing Plasma weapons
Forever he will ride
He's bringing Armageddon to them all-


He. Is. The Doomrider
This. Is. The Doomrider
Bane. Of. Man. Doomrider
Dead. Ly. Wheels. Doomrider

*Instrumental*

He. Is. The Doomrider
This. Is. The Doomrider
He. Is. The Doomrider
This. Is. The Doomrider

Doom. Doom. Rider. Rider.
Doom. Doom. Rider. Rider-

Can't. Stop. The Doomrider--
DOOM!

Because in this case, as written, Soulreaper basically lets them attack in close combat with no chance of retaliation. The reason it's an assault move is that it lets them fire their guns on the way in, which is awesomely cinematic and (given the number of special weapons chaos bikers can field) makes it more attractive than just assaulting, while it would never be used if you had to give up your guns to use it.

As for bikers as troops, I simply didn't think of it. Makes sense though...

The Spectral Troops bikers sound really neat and appropriate. I'm not familiar with Doomrider fluff, but I imagine him as the pinnacle of Slaaneshi Lord-dom rather than a Daemon....of course a Daemon biker would be pretty amazing. Here's my take though.

WS 7 BS 5 S5 T5 W4 I7 A6 Sv3+ , FNP, Mark of Slaanesh (included in profile), Fearless, Champion of Chaos, Blazing Slash, Combat Drugs

Bike-mounted Doom Siren, Master-crafted Power Sword, Needle of Desire (Fleshbane, AP2, Instant Death, Specialist Weapon, 1 attack), Aura of Dark Glory

Warlord Trait: Ambush Specialist: Doomrider and any unit he joins have Acute Senses, Outflank, Hit and Run, Move Thru Cover

May take a retinue of a single unit of Chaos Bikers with the Mark of Slaanesh as a Troops choice. Whilst Doomrider is joined to the unit, they also gain Move Thru Cover.

Blazing Slash: Doomrider and his unit may fire their weapons at an enemy unit and then Turboboost through that unit, inflicting 1 additional hit for each model that passed over the enemy unit at S5/AP-.

Combat Drugs: At the beginning of each game turn, you may choose to roll a D6. Doomrider and his unit gain the following until the beginning of the next game turn:

1) Lethargic dose: each model halves its Initiative and Weapon Skill, rounding up
2) Placebo: no effect
3) Stimulant: +1 Initiative
4) Adrenal flux: +1 Strength
5) Dissociative: Feel No Pain (or +1 if the unit or model already has FNP)
6) Hyper Awareness: +1 WS, +1 BS, +1 I, Rage and CounterAttack

Doomrider should be about 260. While not the combat beast like Abaddon, or even Kharn, he should give many benefits to a unit joined to him. I think that's what is missing from the CSM book more than anything. Perhaps this is overboard, but he is the Doomrider! And the Blazing Slash rule is reminiscent of Wazdakka, who can also shoot and Turboboost.

Doomrider is a daemon prince. Explicitly so.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fileoomrider.jpg#.UsvLLdJdVNY

That's his original model, clearly displaying a daemon weapon, the twin-linked meltagun on his bike and the plasmagun held in a sheath by his left leg.

He was a "daemon prince" before the concept of daemon prince as a giant, hulking beast was really solidified in the minds of the 40k hivemind. He is still one explicitly but as he is the only known daemon prince to still appear in the chaos space marine form he occupied in human life, I don't think he'd count as one from a stats-perspective.

Would be cool if GW brought him back and updated his model with an actual flaming sword.

Why would taking drugs give him powers of the other 3 gods? He's dedicated to slaanesh.

Hmmm, I didn't realize he was described as a Daemon Prince back in the day (I only started playing in 4th edition). That does make things interesting.

I guess at T5, he would already be as tough as a DP. And I8 would be reasonable as he's a legendary Slaaneshi guy. But I think he shouldn't be a Monstrous Creature, as they can't ride BIkes. An AP2 Daemon Weapon would be awesome, CSM need another one of those

Maybe it would be better to limit his use of combat drugs to himself and not any unit, as a crazed maniac would certainly not share his drugs, unless injecting them into a victim for nefarious purposes, which is why I always liked the 4th ed. Needle of Desire. Wouldn't be bad to change him up and make him more Slaaneshi with a Doom Siren rather than a melta gun. Bikers can get 2 plus a combimelta anyways. A plasmagun maybe, but not sure a Daemon Prince would give a crap about that, he'd wanna get in there and chop things up.

So I vote for Slaaneshi Bikers as Troops, Combat Drugs (for Doomrider only), Doom Siren on his bike, Flaming S+2/AP3 Daemon Sword w Soul Blaze, and Poison 2+/ AP2 single-attack Instant Death Needle attack.
WS7, BS5, S5, T5, W4, I8, A6, 3+/5++ Aura of Dark Glory, FNP. Acute Senses/Outflank (like a Slaaneshi Steed Lord).

The fluff about Doomrider is that just like Slaaneshi gals on their steeds, he never goes of his bike of Doom.

he and the bike are one entity, thats why at the time the bike could go over models and terrains with its blazing wheels of Doom.

So Doomrider is a Prince on a Bike...of Doom.

he could perfectly be a MC that moves like a Jetbike.


Doomrider;

WS7 BS5 S6 T5 W4 I8 A5 3+/5++.

Unit; Monstruous Creature, indenpendant character.

Wargear; Blade of Blazing Doom, Bike of Doom.

Special rules; Deamon, outflank, acute sens

Host of Riders; When Doomrider is included in your detachement, Chaos Bikes squadrons can be taken has Troop choices.

Combat Drugs; at the beginning of each movement phase roll a D3;
-1 +1S
-2 +1A
-3 FnP(4+)

Bike of Doom; Doomrider Doom Bike is a thrusty steed of iron and chaotic nature, who Doomrider has rided since his mortal days, even when he ascended to Deamonhood, he never left his bike, claiming that the bike and him where one.

The Bike of Doom is a Jetbike, it is equipped with Twin Meltaguns.

When Doomrider turboboost and passes over an ennemy unit, he can Perform a Vector Strike.

Blazing Blade of Doom; this antiquated Blade is a melee weapon with the following profil.

Melee S;User, AP3, Deamon Weapon, Shred, Soul Blaze.

What happens if Doomrider runs his Bike of Doom into the Doom of Malan'tai and attacks it with his Blazing Blade of Doom, while the two is dueling on Mount Doom?

I suspect that >=1 of the combatants are doomed.

If that happens, Victor shows up and tells these idiots to get off his lawn (and give his mother back while they're at it!)

Doomrider's initial profile was that of a Chaos Lord, but with +1S and +1A (and only I5, not 6 like a typical Slaanesh Lord) he also had a 3++ but could disappear.

I can certainly see a 'modern' Doomrider having a profile between that of a Daemon Prince and a Chaos Lord (because he's smaller)

Slayer's profile looks good, however, I wouldn't make him a MC, he's too small for that. I don't like the combat drugs thing, either.

My take:

Doomrider -- 185pts:

WS7 BS5 S6 T5 W4 I8 A5 3+/5++.

Unit: Jetbike (Character)

Wargear; Blade of Blazing Doom, Bike of Doom, Plasma Gun, Bolt Pistol

Special rules; Daemon of Slaanesh, Deamon, Outflank, Acute senses, Deep Strike, Fearless, Skilled Rider

Host of Riders; When Doomrider is included in your detachment, Chaos Bikes squadrons can be taken has Troop choices.

Bike of Doom: The Bike of Doom is a Jetbike, it is equipped with Twin Meltaguns. It may move over all terrain and friendly and enemy units without penalty even when turbo boosting or charging. However, it can not end its move on top of a unit, friendly or otherwise.

Every enemy unit Doom Rider moves over (either in the Movement, Shooting or Assault phases) suffers D6 Str 4 AP5 hits with the Soul Blaze special rule.

Blazing Blade of Doom; this antiquated Blade is a melee weapon with the following profile.

Range: - S: User, AP2, Type: Melee, Deamon Weapon, Soul Blaze.


EDIT: Added points cost and fearless. Also gave him skilled rider because to me it made sense

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Doomrider's initial profile was that of a Chaos Lord, but with +1S and +1A (and only I5, not 6 like a typical Slaanesh Lord) he also had a 3++ but could disappear.

I can certainly see a 'modern' Doomrider having a profile between that of a Daemon Prince and a Chaos Lord (because he's smaller)

Slayer's profile looks good, however, I wouldn't make him a MC, he's too small for that. I don't like the combat drugs thing, either.

My take:

Doomrider:

WS7 BS5 S6 T5 W4 I8 A5 3+/5++.

Unit: Jetbike (Character)

Wargear; Blade of Blazing Doom, Bike of Doom, Plasma Gun, Bolt Pistol

Special rules; Daemon of Slaanesh, Deamon, Outflank, Acute senses, Deep Strike

Host of Riders; When Doomrider is included in your detachment, Chaos Bikes squadrons can be taken has Troop choices.

Bike of Doom: The Bike of Doom is a Jetbike, it is equipped with Twin Meltaguns. It may move over all terrain and friendly and enemy units without penalty even when turbo boosting or charging. However, it can not end its move on top of a unit, friendly or otherwise.

Every enemy unit Doom Rider moves over (either in the Movement, Shooting or Assault phases) suffers D6 Str 4 AP5 hits with the Soul Blaze special rule.

Blazing Blade of Doom; this antiquated Blade is a melee weapon with the following profile.

Range: - S: User, AP2, Type: Melee, Deamon Weapon, Soul Blaze.

This seems perfect as a modern update to Doomrider! Always thought he was a great character.

The only thing I would like to see would be to perhaps give him D3 Hammer of Wrath hits when he charges?

Also how many points would you charge for him?

Knew I forgot something.
Around 170-180 would be fair I think.

Also just realised I forgot to add Fearless, can't easily add that using my iPod... So that should be there, will edit it when I have the chance.

Why to change him? Hes old stats was not so bad. And the "He cames ,He goes" rule was fun 2.