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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 18:06:17
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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I think horus said "let's murder murder" so he gets my vote. Unless it was sangunious, in which case he gets it, because that line is awful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 19:36:27
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Veteran of The Long War wrote:Mortarion, all the others were other possessed, tricked by Xenos/Daemons, Crazy or betrayed by the Emperor. Except for Mortarion, he was just an ass.
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legit reason to rebel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 15:03:09
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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I am alos limitied on info about all the primarchs but for me it would be Angron, because although he was a simple minded "killer for killing sake", he utterly destroyed worlds with no discrimination between man women and child.
I also think Mortarion was just an ass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 18:41:02
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mojo1jojo wrote:I am alos limitied on info about all the primarchs but for me it would be Angron, because although he was a simple minded "killer for killing sake", he utterly destroyed worlds with no discrimination between man women and child.
I also think Mortarion was just an ass
So did other primarchs traitor and loyalist.
Angron was the only one who was honest with himself and verbally tore Russ a new donkey-cave when Russ tried to ''redeem'' ( push around, arrogantly stepping in where he was neither needed or wanted) him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 19:20:55
Subject: Re:Who was the most evil primarch?
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Raging Ravener
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So much wrong in this post about the traitors it hurts me to see fellow fluff lovers get the heresy wrong!
Perturabo wasn't valued by anyone, he was merely seen as the guy whose legion stayed in the mud, they were so much more than just "castle breakers", they were brilliant siege craftsmen, they could build fantastic defenses too, Peturabo himself was a brilliant engineer, he could build marvels, his favorite second one was used as the place to ban pyskers and forbid it (decree of Nikea) and considering Magnus was one of the only brothers he truly cared for as the spent a long time hunting for freizen (can't remember how to spell it) articles on how to build, it's all in angel exterminatus
Mortarion when he landed on his home world was adopted by a tyrant, he fled to join the peasents, when he was finally able to act revenge upon the tyrant overlords of Barburus, his adoptive father was the last left alive. When he got back after killing the penultimate tyrant, he heard of a "magical saviour" who had appeared and was going to lead them to freedom, Mortarion saw the Emp and Empy said "if you can't kill him, I will help you" and Mortarion refused and when to kill his former adoptive father/tyrant. However the toxic smog around him brought him to his knees and he couldn't face him, and the last thing he saw was Emp killing the tyrant (this left a scar, much like angrons, on his pride). Horus however did have problems attempting to convince Mortarion to join, however when he explained how Emp was now like a tyrant of old on barburus, Mortarion joined.
Angron on him home world was a slave gladiator of much re-known who led a revolt which succeeded and his gladiator army fled to the mountains, when the final battle came, Emp. teleported down and and told Angron how he was impressed and gave him control of the war hounds legion, however Angron declined and said that he would rather die with his brothers on his homeworld and Emp. teleported back to his ship, however just before Angrons gladiator army was assulted by the 5 armies, Emp. teleported him to his battle barge and Angron's martial pride was wounded so badly he would never forgive Emp. The thing about him killing the war hounds captins, was because he didn't respect them+was still in a massive rage about being forced to leave his brothers beind, only when Kharn was beaten badly and said something along the lines of "we are your brothers, we are the eater of worlds" did Angron somewhat calm down and respect his legion. The only person he wanted to kill was the old supreme chapter master of the old war hounds, as only then would he be in complete control. Angrons rage stemed from the butchers nails that were embedded in his brain, they caused constant agony and only when he killed did the pain subside, therefore on the battlefield he feel in murderous rampages which granted him a strange form of serenity. These were unable to be removed as they were a lost technology from before the age of strife.
Fulgrim is a given I guess, as everyone knows his story, was constantly craving perfection and had a sword with a greater demon of Slaanesh trapped within which slowly pushed him over the edge with each passing day.
Konrad Cruze is a sad one, possible the saddest. He landed on a criminal world and while the others were quickly adopted and looked after, he left his capsule with a blade of glass, the people who was surrounded by shaped him into the psychopathic murder he became, he took on the " batman/Night haunter" personality to protect the real Konrad, but his other side became so powerful that it eventually overtook him in daily life and when Night Haunter was Konrad Cruze he jsut wanted to die, which is why he let himself die and why he wanted Vulkan to kill him in Vulkan lives. He hated what he had become that he wanted to die.
Want me to explain the rest in detail haha, god I love the heresy
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Slaanesh: "Hey guys we're back! We brought presents. And yes, they ARE sexually suggestive"
Tzeentch: "So did we miss anything while we were away"
Khorne and Nurgle trade a shifty glance
Tzeentch: "Hey! Whos been touching my stuff! Where did my Old World go?!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 19:24:08
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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godking wrote: Veteran of The Long War wrote:Mortarion, all the others were other possessed, tricked by Xenos/Daemons, Crazy or betrayed by the Emperor. Except for Mortarion, he was just an ass.
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legit reason to rebel.
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so?
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed?
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity?
Those are some right legit reasons there, IMO!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 19:25:38
Subject: Re:Who was the most evil primarch?
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Raging Ravener
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Ignore this, was trying something out and clicked submit instead of preview!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/27 19:26:25
Slaanesh: "Hey guys we're back! We brought presents. And yes, they ARE sexually suggestive"
Tzeentch: "So did we miss anything while we were away"
Khorne and Nurgle trade a shifty glance
Tzeentch: "Hey! Whos been touching my stuff! Where did my Old World go?!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 20:29:08
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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thenoobbomb wrote:godking wrote: Veteran of The Long War wrote:Mortarion, all the others were other possessed, tricked by Xenos/Daemons, Crazy or betrayed by the Emperor. Except for Mortarion, he was just an ass.
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legit reason to rebel.
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so?
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed?
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity?
Those are some right legit reasons there, IMO!
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so? He brought it on himself due to his gigantic hubris
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed? Naive fool at first and dishonest hypocrite latter on during the Heresy
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity? Destroying humanity because a cabal of xenos tells him its the only way ?
Angron was the only one who never drank the emperors koolaid never pretended to like anyone and was the one primarch who was honest with himself most of the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 20:53:21
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Massachusetts
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thenoobbomb wrote:godking wrote: Veteran of The Long War wrote:Mortarion, all the others were other possessed, tricked by Xenos/Daemons, Crazy or betrayed by the Emperor. Except for Mortarion, he was just an ass.
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legit reason to rebel.
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so?
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed?
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity?
Those are some right legit reasons there, IMO!
Magnus was not sentenced to death. The Emperor ordered Russ to bring Magnus to Terra, problem is he sent those orders through Horus. Horus told Russ that his orders were to destroy the Thousand Sons. But I agree with you in that he was justified in rebelling from that point on, as he believed the Emperor was responsible.
EDIT: quoted the wrong person.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 23:47:13
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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One of the two that got snuffed and never, ever mentioned again.
They must have done some *terrible* gak to get that treatment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 23:51:02
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Psienesis wrote:One of the two that got snuffed and never, ever mentioned again.
They must have done some *terrible* gak to get that treatment.
Like chasing around the Space Wolves with vacuum cleaners?
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 00:16:16
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Could have been! I mean, you gotta admit, it's pretty evil to chase space-dogs around outer space with a high-tech space-vacuum!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 01:38:48
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Psienesis wrote:Could have been! I mean, you gotta admit, it's pretty evil to chase space-dogs around outer space with a high-tech space-vacuum!
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 15:13:39
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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godking wrote: thenoobbomb wrote:godking wrote: Veteran of The Long War wrote:Mortarion, all the others were other possessed, tricked by Xenos/Daemons, Crazy or betrayed by the Emperor. Except for Mortarion, he was just an ass.
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legit reason to rebel.
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so?
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed?
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity?
Those are some right legit reasons there, IMO!
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so? He brought it on himself due to his gigantic hubris
"Oh no, he's trying to get knowledge!"
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed? Naive fool at first and dishonest hypocrite latter on during the Heresy
I'd say you would be a "naive fool" too, if you were born and raised in feudal Europe, with which we can pretty much compare Lorgar's homeworld.
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity? Destroying humanity because a cabal of xenos tells him its the only way ?
Because they show him what will happens if Horus loses - grimdawk 40 kay hurr hurr.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 16:38:48
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It wasn't just knowledge. It was the use of a dangerous art. The Wolves were only sent after Magnus shattered the wards protecting the Imperial Webway causing a large loss of Imperial life. Even then they were sent to bring him back to Terra. It was Horus who changed the commands.
Because they show him what will happens if Horus loses - grimdawk 40 kay hurr hurr.
There is no logical reason for Alpharius to believe that that those are the only two possible futures. It could have been a complete illusion or just possible futures. The future isn't set in stone in 40K; prophecies don't necessarily come true. Besides, Alpharius sided with Horus and the future he was told that would prevent still came to pass. Except the Imperium isn't set to be annihilated any time soon (making the 10,000 years prediction wrong). Not only that but the destruction of humanity wouldn't destroy Chaos Gods anyway, so it's pretty clear the Cabal were either outright lying, were misinformed or just stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 00:00:11
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
It wasn't just knowledge. It was the use of a dangerous art. The Wolves were only sent after Magnus shattered the wards protecting the Imperial Webway causing a large loss of Imperial life. Even then they were sent to bring him back to Terra. It was Horus who changed the commands.
Because they show him what will happens if Horus loses - grimdawk 40 kay hurr hurr.
There is no logical reason for Alpharius to believe that that those are the only two possible futures. It could have been a complete illusion or just possible futures. The future isn't set in stone in 40K; prophecies don't necessarily come true. Besides, Alpharius sided with Horus and the future he was told that would prevent still came to pass. Except the Imperium isn't set to be annihilated any time soon (making the 10,000 years prediction wrong). Not only that but the destruction of humanity wouldn't destroy Chaos Gods anyway, so it's pretty clear the Cabal were either outright lying, were misinformed or just stupid.
Prophecies are predictions. He could have ignored them easily. HE could have passed them off as false. But the difference between a prophecy and foresight is that a prophecy is a prediction, foreight is just a vision of possible futures. Alpharius was informed that Horus must WIN to prevent the grimdarkness we see "today" in 40k, which he didn't. Destroying humanity would knock out a great deal, hell, 99% of Chaos' followers in this galaxy which as far as we know, is all the warp covers. I'm not sure about the 10k years bit but at the close of the 41st Millenium things look pretty bleak. Armeggedon and a new Waaagh! ever week, elder destroying worlds to slow the Nids, Nids invading by the bazillions, Necrons awakening at an astounding rate, Chaos incursions left, right, centre, slightly off-centre, up down, at 45 degree inclines, and everywhere, plus the 13th Black Crusade about to punch through, the Imperium is on the brink. Not to mention the TauDar combos killing Spess Mahreens by the handful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/29 01:20:58
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Deadshot wrote:
Alpharius was informed that Horus must WIN to prevent the grimdarkness we see "today" in 40k, which he didn't.
Wasn't he also told that if he sided with Horus then Horus would win? Regardless him believing the Cabal is bizarre and doesn't make sense unless he actually was doing it all for different reasons.
Destroying humanity would knock out a great deal, hell, 99% of Chaos' followers in this galaxy which as far as we know, is all the warp covers
What about the hundreds (or thousands or tens of thousands) alien empires throughout the galaxy? Chaos doesn't need actual followers it needs emotion; only the Necrons, Tyranids, pariahs and Orks don't feed them as far as I know. Even then they often cause other species' to experience extreme emotion which does feed the Ruinous Powers.
I'm not sure about the 10k years bit but at the close of the 41st Millenium things look pretty bleak. .
But the Imperium is not set to crumble. The Imperium is going to fall for centuries if not millennia. Thus far it has fended off or diverted the Tyranids, the Necrons have no plans to wipe out humanity (even if they unified and toppled the Imperium), the Ork Waaghs! are nothing compared to the one the Beast launched in the 32nd millennium (I think it was then), the Eldar would likely predominantly aid the Imperium and as for Chaos while they're liable to make headway there's no guarantee their onslaught won't be stopped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/31 20:48:13
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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godking wrote:
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so? He brought it on himself due to his gigantic hubris
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed? Naive fool at first and dishonest hypocrite latter on during the Heresy
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity? Destroying humanity because a cabal of xenos tells him its the only way ?
Angron was the only one who never drank the emperors koolaid never pretended to like anyone and was the one primarch who was honest with himself most of the time.
Angron was a sniveling coward who blamed his problems on everyone else and dismissed everyone else's issues as just whining. Angron loses all sympathy when he actively antagonizes Argel Tal over Cyrene's death while sane, despite the fact that Angron knows first-hand what it's like to lose someone you actually care about.
The Emperor's biggest mistake was not killing him the moment he found him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/31 20:56:06
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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I nearly died when I saw that panel of them bounding away on all fours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/31 23:16:27
Subject: Re:Who was the most evil primarch?
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Been Around the Block
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Hard to say, The Imperium is a dubiously lesser evil.
Least evil (out of the running for most evil):
Gulliman, Magnus, Alpharius/Omegon, Dorn, Sanguinius, Manus, Khan, Vulkan, Corax
More evil but not really that evil:
Night Haunter, Horus, Lorgar, Moratorian, Russ
In the running:
Angron, Peturbo, Fulgrim, Johnson
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/01 14:53:09
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Void__Dragon wrote:godking wrote:
Magnus, who tried to warned the Emperor of the HH, but was sentenced to death for doing so? He brought it on himself due to his gigantic hubris
Lorgar, whose entire life was devoted to indoctrinating Imperial citizens and worshipping the Emperor, which was later all destroyed? Naive fool at first and dishonest hypocrite latter on during the Heresy
Alpharius, the James Bond of the Marines, who is trying to save the Galaxy by destroying humanity? Destroying humanity because a cabal of xenos tells him its the only way ?
Angron was the only one who never drank the emperors koolaid never pretended to like anyone and was the one primarch who was honest with himself most of the time.
Angron was a sniveling coward who blamed his problems on everyone else and dismissed everyone else's issues as just whining. Angron loses all sympathy when he actively antagonizes Argel Tal over Cyrene's death while sane, despite the fact that Angron knows first-hand what it's like to lose someone you actually care about.
The Emperor's biggest mistake was not killing him the moment he found him.
If the Emperor had left him with his people he wouldn't have turned out as it is. The Emperor's mistake was not trying to save his people.
As it is, he doesn't give two  about the others in the space marines, the Emperor, or anyone else. Why should he care for their suffering when he himself was forced to leave his comrades to die? It takes Kharn the longest time to earn his respect, and mainly he is one of the few he considers to be a true comrade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/02 01:16:19
Subject: Re:Who was the most evil primarch?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Kharn's entire story seems a bit odd to me honestly. you'd think the emperor would have just saved the gladiators, tying Kharn to him with some sort of feeling of graditude.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/02 11:57:58
Subject: Re:Who was the most evil primarch?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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BrianDavion wrote:Kharn's entire story seems a bit odd to me honestly. you'd think the emperor would have just saved the gladiators, tying Kharn to him with some sort of feeling of graditude.
You mean Angron right?
Also, the Emperor doesn't have the best track record of being the 'best daddy of the year'. He thinks whatever he does is right and pretty much neglects some of them, dots on others, and generally will use extreme punishments.
Hell, half of the legions rebelled because of things he directly ordered or did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/02 21:14:12
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
HAHAHAHAHA-NO
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The Emperor-
1) All this never would have happened if he had a nice father-son chat with horus
2) I have a "different" definition of evil
3) CORRUPT EMPIRE OF DAEMONS MUST BE CLAENSED IN BLOOD!!!!!!!!! Automatically Appended Next Post: Mortarion was shunned by his brothers...and then turned int a badass nurgle psycho!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/02 22:43:48
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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ZebioLizard2 wrote:
If the Emperor had left him with his people he wouldn't have turned out as it is. The Emperor's mistake was not trying to save his people.
As it is, he doesn't give two  about the others in the space marines, the Emperor, or anyone else. Why should he care for their suffering when he himself was forced to leave his comrades to die? It takes Kharn the longest time to earn his respect, and mainly he is one of the few he considers to be a true comrade.
Because taking your anger and frustration out on other people who had nothing to do with the event in question is the action of an immature, weak-willed manchild.
All of which describe Angron perfectly. He was the weakest Primarch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/03 00:02:55
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Void__Dragon wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:
If the Emperor had left him with his people he wouldn't have turned out as it is. The Emperor's mistake was not trying to save his people.
As it is, he doesn't give two  about the others in the space marines, the Emperor, or anyone else. Why should he care for their suffering when he himself was forced to leave his comrades to die? It takes Kharn the longest time to earn his respect, and mainly he is one of the few he considers to be a true comrade.
Because taking your anger and frustration out on other people who had nothing to do with the event in question is the action of an immature, weak-willed manchild.
All of which describe Angron perfectly. He was the weakest Primarch.
he definatly was, even the world eaters basicly admit it in Betrayer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 11:38:51
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Raging Ravener
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BrianDavion wrote: Void__Dragon wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:
If the Emperor had left him with his people he wouldn't have turned out as it is. The Emperor's mistake was not trying to save his people.
As it is, he doesn't give two  about the others in the space marines, the Emperor, or anyone else. Why should he care for their suffering when he himself was forced to leave his comrades to die? It takes Kharn the longest time to earn his respect, and mainly he is one of the few he considers to be a true comrade.
Because taking your anger and frustration out on other people who had nothing to do with the event in question is the action of an immature, weak-willed manchild.
All of which describe Angron perfectly. He was the weakest Primarch.
he definatly was, even the world eaters basicly admit it in Betrayer
...Nah, in Angrons mind he was dead, he wanted to die on his homeworld with his brother gladiators but instead the Emperor teleported him up because he didn't want him to die. Would it of been hard to help Angron defeat 5 armies with the custodes? Nope, it wouldn't of been, that action just added to the long book of all the things the emperor did wrong.
When discussing Angron, people always seem to forget that the nails cause him constant headaches that are so severe he can only find a form of peace when killing and inflicting bloodshed, can you really blame the man for being angry when that is happening to him 24/7 and being taken away from his first true brothers? He wasn't the weakest Primarchs by a long shot, he was the second most damaged mentally, the first being our 30K batman, to which made it easy to convince him to turn against the father figure he always had a degree of hatred too.
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Slaanesh: "Hey guys we're back! We brought presents. And yes, they ARE sexually suggestive"
Tzeentch: "So did we miss anything while we were away"
Khorne and Nurgle trade a shifty glance
Tzeentch: "Hey! Whos been touching my stuff! Where did my Old World go?!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 11:59:09
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Do space wolves have to take fear checks against chaos space marines with vacuum cleaners?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 12:47:02
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah. I go for Emperor as the worst of them all. Root of all evil, you might say.
As for the vacuum cleaner: Yeah, it's a howling siren you can attach on any fast moving unit :-p
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Waaagh an' a 'alf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 22:34:05
Subject: Who was the most evil primarch?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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tomball0706 wrote:BrianDavion wrote: Void__Dragon wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:
If the Emperor had left him with his people he wouldn't have turned out as it is. The Emperor's mistake was not trying to save his people.
As it is, he doesn't give two  about the others in the space marines, the Emperor, or anyone else. Why should he care for their suffering when he himself was forced to leave his comrades to die? It takes Kharn the longest time to earn his respect, and mainly he is one of the few he considers to be a true comrade.
Because taking your anger and frustration out on other people who had nothing to do with the event in question is the action of an immature, weak-willed manchild.
All of which describe Angron perfectly. He was the weakest Primarch.
he definatly was, even the world eaters basicly admit it in Betrayer
...Nah, in Angrons mind he was dead, he wanted to die on his homeworld with his brother gladiators but instead the Emperor teleported him up because he didn't want him to die. Would it of been hard to help Angron defeat 5 armies with the custodes? Nope, it wouldn't of been, that action just added to the long book of all the things the emperor did wrong.
When discussing Angron, people always seem to forget that the nails cause him constant headaches that are so severe he can only find a form of peace when killing and inflicting bloodshed, can you really blame the man for being angry when that is happening to him 24/7 and being taken away from his first true brothers? He wasn't the weakest Primarchs by a long shot, he was the second most damaged mentally, the first being our 30K batman, to which made it easy to convince him to turn against the father figure he always had a degree of hatred too.
On the other hand, I can see reason for the Emperor letting the slaves die. After all, these are rebellious...people, for lack of a better word. They revelled against their masters when they didn't like the way things were going. Not the kind of people an aspiring Emperor wants in his autocracy.
Putting aside the fact that they were rebelling from slavery and many were likely criminals anyway, I can see why the Emperor let them die.
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