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I ask this both as a semi-serious question and lulz worthy "what if?", the "Monkey Business" DLC for Far Cry 3 adds in some humorous humiliations you can do to the best player on the other team if you win and are the highest scoring player on your team, one involves the title character of said DLC running in just before the losing player is about to get done in, saying while high on drugs he taught one of his monkeys how to pull the pins on grenades, before said monkey starts dropping live grenades from a tree above, causing everyone but the unlucky loosing team member to run away leaving the poor sod to his fate.

This makes me wonder a bit, aside from that whole scene being hysterically funny, could a primate of some kind, like a chimpanzee or a Capuchin monkey, have the necessary motor skills to figure out how to pull the pin and flip the spoon on a grenade?

My reasoning for how this could happen is that a grenade, to a monkey at least, might look like a piece of fruit, (especially the old WWII style "pineapple" grenade, some of which still exist and are used by factions in third world countries to this day) and might choose to nick the grenade from a box, on a table, or even right off a soldier's belt, and might in the course of trying to peel it open to try and eat it, pull the pin out, thinking it the ineditable part of the fruit and pulling it off (out), and flipping the spoon in the process.

Smelling the gunpowder burning in the grenade (do to primates having more acute senses of smell then us) might toss it away or simply drop it and run away, where ass the soldier he pilfered it from might come pick it up, not realizing the monkey managed to make the grenade live, and get blown up in the process.

Anyone who knows hand grenades also knows it takes a fair bit of force to pull the pin out of grenade, about 50 pounds if I'm correct, but most primates have very high power to weight ratios, especially chimps which are scary strong despite their unassuming sizes, so for a monkey to have the strength to pull out the pin doesn't seem to be that big of stretch of the imagination to me.

So what does everyone else think? Could it happen in real life, or only as a cliche lulzy joke in fiction?

 
   
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 JakeCWolf wrote:
So what does everyone else think?

Did you seriously think that your thought was worth it's own thread is what I am thinking right now.

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 JakeCWolf wrote:
So what does everyone else think?

Did you seriously think that your thought was worth it's own thread is what I am thinking right now.

I don't know...

Monkeys can fling poo remarkably accurately...

It wouldn't be a stretch to train them to fling 'nades.

They would've been handy in 'Nam... no?

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 JakeCWolf wrote:

could a primate of some kind, like a chimpanzee or a Capuchin monkey, have the necessary motor skills to figure out how to pull the pin and flip the spoon on a grenade?


Yes. They are very curious animals and could pull that pin out if they found it interesting.

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I was really hoping for a better reaction out of this thread, are all of you so lame that you honestly waste your time with posts like "what?" and quoting other people saying it? Seriously, do us all a favor, if you can't add more then one sentence to a post, don't respond at all, savvy?

 
   
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This sound slike it would be great in an old man of action/animal buddy movie. You know, the kind like Ronald Reagan or Clint Eastwood would star in.



Yes, a monkey can pull a pin on a hand grenade. I'm not sur ehow good they are at throwing.

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 JakeCWolf wrote:
I was really hoping for a better reaction out of this thread, are all of you so lame that you honestly waste your time with posts like "what?" and quoting other people saying it? Seriously, do us all a favor, if you can't add more then one sentence to a post, don't respond at all, savvy?

The premise of your opening post is really odd to begin with that I'm surprised you "honestly waste[d] your time with posts like" that. The chances a monkey getting a grenade and then using it against people purposefully are so slim that it'll never happen.

The reason why people are going, "What?" is because the concept is so far out there that those posters are trying to figure out why you have this thought in your head in the first place.

Also, there was nothing truly to be discussed the moment you said "lulzy"

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 Easy E wrote:
This sound slike it would be great in an old man of action/animal buddy movie. You know, the kind like Ronald Reagan or Clint Eastwood would star in.

Yes, a monkey can pull a pin on a hand grenade. I'm not sur ehow good they are at throwing.


I've been to the zoo. They throw crap very well! They also toss other things, but this is a family friendly forum.

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 JakeCWolf wrote:
I was really hoping for a better reaction out of this thread, are all of you so lame that you honestly waste your time with posts like "what?" and quoting other people saying it? Seriously, do us all a favor, if you can't add more then one sentence to a post, don't respond at all, savvy?


One hundred monkeys with a hundred keyboards given a hundred days could have made a better thread than this...


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 kronk wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
This sound slike it would be great in an old man of action/animal buddy movie. You know, the kind like Ronald Reagan or Clint Eastwood would star in.

Yes, a monkey can pull a pin on a hand grenade. I'm not sur ehow good they are at throwing.


I've been to the zoo. They throw crap very well! They also toss other things, but this is a family friendly forum.


Have you seen the video with the monkey and the frog?

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The real question is, could a dolphin do it?

   
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Manchu wrote:
The real question is, could a dolphin do it?


Wasn't there an Urban Legend about the Navy teaching dolphins to swim close to enemy submarines/ships in an effort to strap bombs to them and sink enemy ships and or disrupt convoys?

Or was it to find enemy mines and blow them up.

It was odd, either way.

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Manchu wrote:
The real question is, could a dolphin do it?


Dolphins rape each other and pass around puffer fish to get high.

I'm sure they could figure it out.
   
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Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Also, dolphin v. monkey - amphibious arena - each armed only with grenades ... who wins?

   
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Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Also, dolphin v. monkey - amphibious arena - each armed only with grenades ... who wins?

The dolphin. The monkey may be the only one capable of pulling the plug, but the dolphin will be able to kick it back in time to explode the monkey.


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The Dolphin could drown the monkey, as they are bad swimmers.

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Mojo what are you doing! MOJO PUT DOWN THE GRENADE! WAIT NO! *bang*

Seriously what?

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Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Also, dolphin v. monkey - amphibious arena - each armed only with grenades ... who wins?

Fox does because that sounds like their next Fall special

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When animals attack...with deadly weapons!

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Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Also, dolphin v. monkey - amphibious arena - each armed only with grenades ... who wins?


Ocean always wins:


   
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Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Why not both?

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Why not both?


FACT: Not a single dolphin has ever attended church or been baptized.

You know who else wasn't baptized? Satan.

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 kronk wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Are you saying dolphins are morally degenerate or intelligent?

Why not both?


FACT: Not a single dolphin has ever attended church or been baptized.

You know who else wasn't baptized? Satan.

As Satan was once an Angel, would he really have been needed to be baptized or wasn't that already included in the work contract under social benefits?


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The history of trying to train animals in warfare is mixed, at best.

 Alfndrate wrote:
The chances a monkey getting a grenade and then using it against people purposefully are so slim that it'll never happen.


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Irrelevant! He was never baptized, thus he's as evil as Dolph Lundrin!

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 Weltenwolf wrote:
As Satan was once an Angel, would he really have been needed to be baptized or wasn't that already included in the work contract under social benefits?


I doubt it's a work benefit. That really seems like kind of a pre-hire requisite, but I suppose He might have waived it has Satan shown 5 years of experience previously managing dimensions of the damned.

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