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I used to read WD back in the eighties when it was a more general gaming magazine and not GW only - it was a decent read. I've only dipped in on odd occasions since.

Times change however and I will be interested to see what this new incarnation looks like.

There is a good chance they have brought in a high speed digital press with autobind on a pay per click basis. Simple to run and means release printing is done in house so no leaks.

Things seem to suggest that they'll be more open to reader submissions, etc. If so, I think that's a very good way for them to engage their customers for a change.

The weekly magazine sounds like little more than a catalog, which I feel they should be dispensing for free, not taking money for. On top of that, four of these will cost more than one WD with even less content. Not too keen on these.

Now, the monthly one - if it's 200-some pages of studio and reader-submitted models, with conversion and kitbashing corners as well as painting tips, though with no real articles to speak of, then I can see myself buying it regularly.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They've announced the funeral for WD finally. They kept his body in state for a long time.

Like the emperor of mankind

Some more info retailers got:
1.) Weekly keeps the White Dwarf name. It features the new products of the Saturday NEXT week. The editorial part (what we called content in the 90s) goes into this White Dwarf. GW (store and website) and retailers only, no subscribtion.
2.) Warhammer Visions is indeed mainly photos with short descriptions in 3 (!) languages and no editorial content like columns. Size is smaller, but more pages. Unknown if Hobbit content is included.

So.. one is pictures without any content.
The other is super short with a cataloge... and maybe 4 pages with content?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Some more info retailers got:
1.) Weekly keeps the White Dwarf name. It features the new products of the Saturday NEXT week. The editorial part (what we called content in the 90s) goes into this White Dwarf. GW (store and website) and retailers only, no subscribtion.
2.) Warhammer Visions is indeed mainly photos with short descriptions in 3 (!) languages and no editorial content like columns. Size is smaller, but more pages. Unknown if Hobbit content is included.

That's not good.

I don't even had a GW store anywhere near me!

I can understand the 'no subscriptions' thing, maybe, but shifting all the 'hobby content' to it seems daft.

Still, I guess we should be glad it will be available digitally - but hopefully at a very reasonable cost?

Anyway, as always, thanks for the update!

RoninXiC wrote:
So.. one is pictures without any content.
The other is super short with a cataloge... and maybe 4 pages with content?

But now with 4 Blanchitsus per month
Yes, content and advertising are still coupled, only pics are outsourced.
Remember that we now have 4x 32 pages WD per month. So even 4 pages per issue are 16 pages per month and roughly what we have now, quantitatively. Armies on Parade and Golden Daemon go to Warhammer Visions.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Some more info retailers got:
1.) Weekly keeps the White Dwarf name. It features the new products of the Saturday NEXT week. The editorial part (what we called content in the 90s) goes into this White Dwarf. GW (store and website) and retailers only, no subscribtion.
2.) Warhammer Visions is indeed mainly photos with short descriptions in 3 (!) languages and no editorial content like columns. Size is smaller, but more pages. Unknown if Hobbit content is included.

That's not good.

I don't even had a GW store anywhere near me!

I'm sure that any independent retailer with the minimum required turnover of merchandise will be allocated 2 copies of each magazine after they can prove to GW that they have the appropriate means to secure it to the counter via the tried-and-true pen-on-a-chain method perfected by banks to prevent online leaks.

I miss the citadel journal.


http://spacehulk.barsoom.cc/articleidx/CJ-Space_Hulk.html

The White Dwarf was a good read back in the day. The new one, not so much.

Bad thing about it is that it's just another in a series of unfortunate events.


The HHHobby is dying a slice at a time.

so does this mean warhammer weekly 1 is WD 410?Or is it WW 1?It better be the first option...

That all sounds a bit interesting.

Guess we will have to see.

 Grot 6 wrote:
I miss the citadel journal.

Dear God, that was a thing of beauty. No fancy pictures, black and white printing and filled to the brim with awesome stuff.

prankster wrote:

It is a bit of a gamble, given what little we know about this at present. Worst case scenario, this is all bull gak and you end up with a 12 month subscription to the mag in it's current incarnation. Which isn't a massively bad thing, sure WD isn't what it was but it's still something to pass a bit of time with. The other possibility is that the new magazine is absolutely dire, though if that is the case I'm sure a conversation with GW's customer service regarding bait and switch and so forth would get you at least something back.

That was pretty much my thought process, worst case I get a refund, but like I said, I'm pretty sure whatever it ends up being, I'd buy it anyway. #fanboy #oldenoughtoknowbetter

Hazrat

 Kroothawk wrote:
Some more info retailers got:
2.) Warhammer Visions is indeed mainly photos with short descriptions in 3 (!) languages and no editorial content like columns. Size is smaller, but more pages. Unknown if Hobbit content is included.

That doesn't sound good. It will likely mean the large size is more due to repeated languages and not additional content. So English, Spanish, and what is the third language?

 silent25 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Some more info retailers got:
2.) Warhammer Visions is indeed mainly photos with short descriptions in 3 (!) languages and no editorial content like columns. Size is smaller, but more pages. Unknown if Hobbit content is included.

That doesn't sound good. It will likely mean the large size is more due to repeated languages and not additional content. So English, Spanish, and what is the third language?

Polish, for the nazi-ork players.

I'd guess French or German.

Ok... That's actually sounding incredibly pants.

Incredibly pants. So much so, I'm half wondering how come it isn't seen as a breach of contract to send it to people with White Dwarf subscriptions, as it basically has no relationship to the subscribed incarnation."

You can't even use the Triggers Broom argument, as it's basically all of a sudden become a shovel.

I can't see myself buying the weekly one but I like the way the monthly one is said to be..
Starting to up my hopes a little bit further.

Da krimson barun wrote:so does this mean warhammer weekly 1 is WD 410?Or is it WW 1?It better be the first option...

That is definitely the number one concern.

timetowaste85 wrote:I'd guess French or German.

Let's hope German. Otherwise the forum will be flooded with endless hate threads by we-know-who

 silent25 wrote:
So English, Spanish, and what is the third language?

Do they sell the Spanish WD in the US (or Middle and South America)? If not, I wouldn't be too sure.

Why change the name of the mag? It's been White Dwarf for 30 years!

I miss Critical Mass, Derek the Troll, runequest scenarios and the WHFRP stats for the characters from the latest GW books.

Oh and proper Chapter Approved.



If there still was a quality magazine like that, with multiple games company scenarios, book review, tutorials etc, I'd totally blow a large sum on subscription to it.

 dakkajet wrote:
Why change the name of the mag? It's been White Dwarf for 30 years!

Because they were getting too many complaints about it being White Dwarf In Name Only?

 silent25 wrote:
That doesn't sound good. It will likely mean the large size is more due to repeated languages and not additional content. So English, Spanish, and what is the third language?

Well, I heard one version is English, French and German. Not sure if there is another version with other languages. And text is so short that they fit under the photo. So don't expect 3 versions of a Jervis Johnson column in here. Also not sure if painting guides could be made compatible (photos with colour name and brush are international after all).

BTW the weekly mag will get the White Dwarf name.

This plan has the potential to reap a monthly profit of 9 + 4x3.20 = 21.80€ instead of 8 € with the same team and the same (non-) content. At least that is what the managers seem to have in mind.

As someone who has every issue since 100, I think this is kind of a bummer. OTOH WD hasn't been good for a loooong time.

And producing a physical magazine in and Internet world is a tough business that is getting tougher.

In the end the dataslates, etc had to be the final straw. Once GW confirmed it could get people to pay piecemeal for the minimal original content + repurposed fluff and art that they used to put in WD...well, what's the point of the magazine, then?

 hubcap wrote:
As someone who has every issue since 100, I think this is kind of a bummer. OTOH WD hasn't been good for a loooong time.

And producing a physical magazine in and Internet world is a tough business that is getting tougher.

In the end the dataslates, etc had to be the final straw. Once GW confirmed it could get people to pay piecemeal for the minimal original content + repurposed fluff and art that they used to put in WD...well, what's the point of the magazine, then?

That is a VERY good point!

 fishy bob wrote:
Let's hope German. Otherwise the forum will be flooded with endless hate threads by we-know-who

It's obviously going to be French : not only is French one of the official language of the U.N. (VERY important), but also unlike German which is spoken only in a few European countries, French will also allow to sell the magazine all over Africa !

 Kroothawk wrote:

 silent25 wrote:
That doesn't sound good. It will likely mean the large size is more due to repeated languages and not additional content. So English, Spanish, and what is the third language?

Well, I heard one version is English, French and German. Not sure if there is another version with other languages. And text is so short that they fit under the photo. So don't expect 3 versions of a Jervis Johnson column in here. Also not sure if painting guides could be made compatible (photos with colour name and brush are international after all).

BTW the weekly mag will get the White Dwarf name.

This plan has the potential to reap a monthly profit of 9 + 4x3.20 = 21.80€ instead of 8 € with the same team and the same (non-) content. At least that is what the managers seem to have in mind.

Not a face palm gif big enough for this. They think they can get almost three times the money for something that is (as this thread plainly shows) only a pathetic, pale, shadow of what was once a decent product.

Bt then that's the GW business plan these days: smaller bits of product at jacked up prices.

Great news!

-C6