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**Bull0**

If they actually manage to get Warhammer Visions into subscribers' hands before the stores, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Although, my WD had just started arriving on time when I let my subscription finally lapse.

I have a suspicion this means you won't be able to subscribe to the weekly White Dwarf.

**Left Hand of the Pheonix**

I actually think that it's good that the new WD weekly won't probably be subscribable. It means you only buy it, when there is something inside it, that interests you. I also think if you compare what is going to be inside the new monthly one, it may well be value for money compared to the old WD, and also compared to other magazines. EG:

Old WD: 154 pages for £5.50 = 28 pages per £
PC Gamer: 130 pages for £5.99 = 22 pages per £
SFX: 130 pages for £4.50 = 29 pages per £
Assumed Warhammer Visions: 230 pages (assumed) for £7 (assumed) = 33 pages per £

Those figures may be slightly incorrect, but it does mean it will be very good value for money. The weekly one BTW will be about 13 pages per £.

So, i will be keeping my subscription, because I like change and I don't immediately hate everything GW does. Have open minds people before you say it's going to be awful.

**cygnnus**

Azazelx wrote:
Looks like when my sub runs out that's it for me. (Yeah, I know - but it's mostly out of habit since I started with WD 97 or 98)

Same for me. I used to ask for a WD subscription as a Christmas present. But waved people off this year, and when my current subscription expires, that's it for me. My first issue was the WD 10th Anniversary mag (#91 IIRC), and it's been a long , slow, death.

I'm still pondering if it's worth kicking up a fuss with GW about getting a refund on my remaining subscription since they've unilaterally changed their product. But somehow I doubt it'll be worth the effort. Best case, I'd get some GW credit probably and that'd be, what, one box of troops or something...

But, yeah... That's the end of the line for me GW's monthly ( and/or weekly) rag I think...

Valete,

JohnS

**Alpharius**

Left Hand of the Pheonix wrote:
I actually think that it's good that the new WD weekly won't probably be subscribable. It means you only buy it, when there is something inside it, that interests you. I also think if you compare what is going to be inside the new monthly one, it may well be value for money compared to the old WD, and also compared to other magazines. EG:

Old WD: 154 pages for £5.50 = 28 pages per £
PC Gamer: 130 pages for £5.99 = 22 pages per £
SFX: 130 pages for £4.50 = 29 pages per £
Assumed Warhammer Visions: 230 pages (assumed) for £7 (assumed) = 33 pages per £

Those figures may be slightly incorrect, but it does mean it will be very good value for money. The weekly one BTW will be about 13 pages per £.

So, i will be keeping my subscription, because I like change and I don't immediately hate everything GW does. Have open minds people before you say it's going to be awful.

"Try Before You Buy" is a nice idea, but it only works if you live near a game store of some sort...

Also, what's a "Pheonix"?!?

**MeanGreenStompa**

Alpharius wrote:

Also, what's a "Pheonix"?!?

He probably means Phoenix, but since GW IP claimed that word now...

**TechMarine1**

I would subscribe to white dwarf weekly (and possibly visions) if it has content in it actually worth reading.

**Azreal13**

Left Hand of the Pheonix wrote:
I actually think that it's good that the new WD weekly won't probably be subscribable. It means you only buy it, when there is something inside it, that interests you. I also think if you compare what is going to be inside the new monthly one, it may well be value for money compared to the old WD, and also compared to other magazines. EG:

Old WD: 154 pages for £5.50 = 28 pages per £
PC Gamer: 130 pages for £5.99 = 22 pages per £
SFX: 130 pages for £4.50 = 29 pages per £
Assumed Warhammer Visions: 230 pages (assumed) for £7 (assumed) = 33 pages per £

Those figures may be slightly incorrect, but it does mean it will be very good value for money. The weekly one BTW will be about 13 pages per £.

So, i will be keeping my subscription, because I like change and I don't immediately hate everything GW does. Have open minds people before you say it's going to be awful.

WH Smith A4 Premium refill pad, 160 sheets (so 320 pages) £1.99 = 160 pages per £

Merely counting the number of pages makes absolutely no odds, SFX and PC Gamer contain a much greater amount of editorial content than old WD, and new Visions I suspect, and that is what makes the difference.

**Bull0**

azreal13 wrote:
Left Hand of the Pheonix wrote:
I actually think that it's good that the new WD weekly won't probably be subscribable. It means you only buy it, when there is something inside it, that interests you. I also think if you compare what is going to be inside the new monthly one, it may well be value for money compared to the old WD, and also compared to other magazines. EG:

Old WD: 154 pages for £5.50 = 28 pages per £
PC Gamer: 130 pages for £5.99 = 22 pages per £
SFX: 130 pages for £4.50 = 29 pages per £
Assumed Warhammer Visions: 230 pages (assumed) for £7 (assumed) = 33 pages per £

Those figures may be slightly incorrect, but it does mean it will be very good value for money. The weekly one BTW will be about 13 pages per £.

So, i will be keeping my subscription, because I like change and I don't immediately hate everything GW does. Have open minds people before you say it's going to be awful.

WH Smith A4 Premium refill pad, 160 sheets (so 320 pages) £1.99 = 160 pages per £

Merely counting the number of pages makes absolutely no odds, SFX and PC Gamer contain a much greater amount of editorial content than old WD, and new Visions I suspect, and that is what makes the difference.

They also contain loads of full-page ads. Admittedly, WD has "ads" for GW stuff, but... why would you buy it if you weren't interested in GW stuff

**Squigsquasher**

Well, that sucks. I for one enjoyed White Dwarf. Still, a magazine every week sounds good.

**Breotan**

Bull0 wrote:
Admittedly, WD has "ads" for GW stuff, but... why would you buy it if you weren't interested in GW stuff

I wouldn't buy if it were nothing but ads, which it is and which is why I haven't bought one in years.

**reds8n**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=12900004

It’s just 12 days until the launch of the new, weekly White Dwarf and monthly Warhammer: Visions.

Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock for the last few weeks, you’ll know that the new White Dwarf magazine will be published every Saturday starting on 1st February, bringing you gaming tips and advice, painting guides, battle reports and oodles of pictures of Citadel miniatures every single week.

On top of that, we’ll also be launching our new monthly magazine on the same day – Warhammer: Visions. It’s an eye-popping hobby extravaganza packed from cover to cover with pictures of beautifully painted miniatures including everything from Golden Demon and Armies on Parade to Kit Bash, Blanchitsu and so much more.

You will be able to see both of these publications in Games Workshop stores and many independent stockists around the world on Saturday 1st February.

Digital Editions

There will be digital editions of both weekly White Dwarf and monthly Warhammer: Visions.

White Dwarf will be available from the Black Library website in mobi format (for Kindles) and ePub format (for iPhones, iPads, iPod Touch, Android devices and pretty much anything else that reads eBooks). The address will be www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf. The ePub version will also be available from Apple iBooks.

Warhammer: Visions will be available for iPads from the Apple AppStore. On Saturday 1st February, the new version of our iPad app will be released, which will replace the existing White Dwarf app (but still allow access to all the previous editions of monthly White Dwarf). This will enable current (and new!) iPad subscribers to download the iPad edition of Warhammer: Visions.

Q&A for subscribers

We’ve had a few queries from subscribers about the new magazines, so we thought we’d share the questions and answers with you.

Current in-store White Dwarf subscriber?

You will be able to redeem your remaining subscription vouchers for a monthly copy of Warhammer: Visions in any Games Workshop store.

Current mail order White Dwarf subscriber?

If you have a subscription to the current White Dwarf magazine, your subscription will automatically switch over to Warhammer: Visions. With your first issue, we’re also sending you a free copy of the first issue of new White Dwarf weekly, along with a letter from Jes, the editor, explaining the changes. The price you pay will not change during your subscription period.

From March, we’ll begin mailing out your monthly subscriber copy of Warhammer: Visions early so that (Warp storms permitting, of course) you’ll receive your copy during the week before it goes on sale in stores.

Current White Dwarf iPad subscriber?

On Saturday 1 February you will need to update your app to the new version (which is free). You will then be able to download the launch edition of Warhammer: Visions, while still being able to view all your existing White Dwarf magazines. The price you pay will not change during your subscription period.

Will there be a subscription available for weekly White Dwarf?

There won’t be a subscription available for White Dwarf at launch. If for whatever reason you miss a copy, there will be a few weeks’ worth of back issues available at games-workshop.com (so long as stocks last). We’ll also have at least two or three issues of Warhammer: Visions available (again, so long as stocks last).

"Warhammer: Visions, now in Chinese and Japanese."

**Kroothawk**

Tom Kirby would know if we were hiding under a rock, because the whole Nottingham HQ is assembled there for years

**H.B.M.C.**

reds8n wrote:
Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock for the last few weeks...

Like GW's marketing department? Other than their own website GW haven't gone out to tell anyone about this besides the people who have to sell it.

Hiding under a rock...

**AllSeeingSkink**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Like GW's marketing department?

GW have a marketing department?

**Redemption**

What's that 'Monstrous In(vasion?)' bit on the cover? Looks like the top of some sort of Lizardmen model?

**Miguelsan**

And God forbid of somebody leaking the news on their blog to generate some buzz. Plus they used the word extravaganza, that means the new stuff will be pretty but empty of content unless you love staring at pictures.

M.

**punchdub**

Notice they've taken "rules" out of this list. All of the previous communication had "rules" included in the list of stuff we'd see in the new WDW.

"Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock for the last few weeks, you’ll know that the new White Dwarf magazine will be published every Saturday starting on 1st February, bringing you gaming tips and advice, painting guides, battle reports and oodles of pictures of Citadel miniatures every single week. "

**Kilkrazy**

£2.40 is a lot for a 36pp magazine, OTOH it's "pocket money price" so I suppose they are aiming it at younger players.

**Necro**

Thank god White Dwarf is ending. Its been crap for the longest time now.

I have collected all the White Dwarfs since 1994 and still read them from time to time.

Its golden age is long past.

R.I.P. my old friend.

**H.B.M.C.**

Redemption wrote:
What's that 'Monstrous In(vasion?)' bit on the cover? Looks like the top of some sort of Lizardmen model?

Rules for fielding Carnosaurs as Core?

**Fenrir Kitsune**

Issue 1? So it really is a clean slate.

**H.B.M.C.**

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Issue 1? So it really is a clean slate.

Just like the last clean slate.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

reds8n, any news on the directory? I need to know if we'll be getting the phone number of the hobby shop on the Falkland Islands! No internet in this part of the UK!

**ted1138**

Redemption wrote:
What's that 'Monstrous In(vasion?)' bit on the cover? Looks like the top of some sort of Lizardmen model?

Looks more like dwarvish runes to me...

**reds8n**

I thought the same.

Wondered if it might be the top of a dwarf throne of power or somesuch.

**prankster**

Well, doesn't the current (rumored) list of releases point to a new Dwarf book in February? Would expect to see them on the cover if that is the case. Though, even if the release order has been shaken up radically, I'd still expect to see dwarves on the cover of issue 1 of the new weekly mag.

**Dragonrider1998**

reds8n wrote:
I thought the same.

Wondered if it might be the top of a dwarf throne of power or somesuch.

The word on the right hand side at the bottom of the picture appears to be 'BELEGAR' which would indicate a Dwarf release in the magazine...

**Redemption**

Ah, that works I guess. I don't play fantasy so don't keep up with their rumours much. Although dwarves are far from the first thing I think about when reading 'Monstrous Invasion'

**AndrewC**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
reds8n, any news on the directory? I need to know if we'll be getting the phone number of the hobby shop on the Falkland Islands! No internet in this part of the UK!

Not sure if serious here, but I'll bite.

Phil, who ran that shop, quit stocking GW after being told that he had to get his stock from Buenos Aires, Argentina. Apprently, GW management thinks its' South American branch is capable of breaking the 30 year economic blockade and can send its products here.

Cheers

Andrew

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

AndrewC wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
reds8n, any news on the directory? I need to know if we'll be getting the phone number of the hobby shop on the Falkland Islands! No internet in this part of the UK!

Not sure if serious here, but I'll bite.

Phil, who ran that shop, quit stocking GW after being told that he had to get his stock from Buenos Aires, Argentina. Apprently, GW management thinks its' South American branch is capable of breaking the 30 year economic blockade and can send its products here.

Cheers

Andrew

It wasn't an attempt to belittle the Falklands or the guy that ran the hobby shop.

The WD directory has long been a running joke on dakka. Despite the internet age, despite most of the hobby shops having their own web pages, and despite their details being available with a 5 second google search, WD or GW still insisted in giving us 11 pages of padding every month for 10 years!!! . It was symptomatic of how things went wrong with WD magazine.

Even the re-launch failed to shed the directory. I know of at least two hobby stores that had been closed for months, but their details were still being printed.

Hope that clears things up.