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for those who have not yet heard the news, you will likely soon.

NEW WARRIORS CODE

the new updated warriors code now allows all FW 40k approved and experimental rules.

we must now start taking all this into account.

Im gonna go to a event there and field a non GW model. Im then gonna quote rule 12 and roll off to use it.

 nutty_nutter wrote:
for those who have not yet heard the news, you will likely soon.

NEW WARRIORS CODE

the new updated warriors code now allows all FW 40k approved and experimental rules.

we must now start taking all this into account.

Taking into account for what? It's no different to any other tournament releasing a list of the things they're allowing.

"If we think you have drunk too much alcohol
and are potentially a danger to yourself or
others around you"


oh god... thats needed to be a rule lol?

I would love to hear about the incident that lead to this

Well Bugman's bar is right next to the gaming tables...

 easysauce wrote:
"If we think you have drunk too much alcohol
and are potentially a danger to yourself or
others around you"


oh god... thats needed to be a rule lol?

I would love to hear about the incident that lead to this

Someone doing a shot of vodka every time they took a casualty and didn't notice until too late that they'd picked up a super glue bottle and took their last shot from that.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/270/564825.page#6290817

Already well discussed when they released these back in November.

And it only relates to events at Warhammer World so nothing changes.

"When attending events at Warhammer World,"

Yep. This is about playing games at Warhammer World.

So nothing new here?

so...the general rule of thumb is that unless GW make an announcement, FW are off the table as are FW units, they change the very fundamentals of how they operate their tournaments and what can be used at warhammer world and you all disregard it....

I see....good to know.

Not shocking that when the primary arguement falls apart from the anti-FW crowd they disregard it and move to pretend it doesn't matter...

I'm curious to see exactly what is now the arguement that makes FW not intended to be included in all games of 40k.

Glad to see FW is now as official as anything else in the hobby now. Not that it matters for areas that always allowed them as it was intended.

Hows the view from that horse of yours?

 nutty_nutter wrote:
so...the general rule of thumb is that unless GW make an announcement, FW are off the table as are FW units, they change the very fundamentals of how they operate their tournaments and what can be used at warhammer world and you all disregard it....

I see....good to know.

To whom are you talking?

People in this thread are simply pointing out that THIS document is specifically about people playing at Warhammer World.

 kronk wrote:

 nutty_nutter wrote:
so...the general rule of thumb is that unless GW make an announcement, FW are off the table as are FW units, they change the very fundamentals of how they operate their tournaments and what can be used at warhammer world and you all disregard it....

I see....good to know.

To whom are you talking?

People in this thread are simply pointing out that THIS document is specifically about people playing at Warhammer World.

and where do official GW events take place?

and what do all the rule packs point to? yes, that's right, they all point at this document.

you do not get any more 'official' than the code to which all GW events are associated

?

This is a document about how to behave at Warhammer World. What's wrong with you?

For the record:

<----- This guy is 100% for using Forge World models in 40k games. Be they tournaments, at home, at the game store, in the back of a bus, where ever.

<---- This guy also knows that this How to Play Games at Warhammer World document will do nothing to change anti-FW sentiment. Nothing.

have you loaded it and read p3?

its a list of all usable formats, rulebooks and dataslates that are usable within games at both events and at warhammer world.

the anti-FW argument IS that these are not permitted by GW and thus not permitted by them, now they do not have GW backing for their argument anymore.


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this part to be precise:For Warhammer 40,000 Events
• A Warhammer 40,000 Codex and/or Codex
Supplement
• The Escalation, Death from the Skies and
Stronghold Assault publications
• A Forge World publication (including digital
updates)
• Forge World Experimental Rules
• Dataslates
• The “Horus Heresy” publications will only
be in use where the Event Pack specifically
says so.

I have read page 3, yes.

5. Your Army List must be selected from
a current Games Workshop publication.
The following list of publications are in use at
events run at Warhammer World.

I read it as "events at warhammer world".

You read it as "events and at warhammer world".

I love how you left the above part off of your post. It's almost like you're being disingenuous.

Almost.

It very clearly states it's for events run at warhammer world. Why you're trying to extrapolate beyond that I have no idea. It almost seems like you have some sort of agenda.

no, was not intentional, just throwing out the list as is.




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also no agenda, just if we are to take a rules question into mind and it would concern anything to do with FW then it cannot be written off in an off hand manner.

I don't take a stand point on rules discussions unless I have the rule to back up my assertion (normally anyway)

 nutty_nutter wrote:
no, was not intentional, just throwing out the list as is.

And as is it only applies to Warhammer World

It doesn't even apply to all GW events.

aside from all events packs pointing to it?

 nutty_nutter wrote:
no, was not intentional, just throwing out the list as is.

No. You didn't.

HERE is the list as-is, and I am now putting you on ignore for being disingenuous, misleading. Good day.

5. Your Army List must be selected from
a current Games Workshop publication.
The following list of publications are in use at
events run at Warhammer World.

For Warhammer 40,000 Events
• A Warhammer 40,000 Codex and/or Codex Supplement
• The Escalation, Death from the Skies and Stronghold Assault publications
• A Forge World publication (including digital updates)
• Forge World Experimental Rules
• Dataslates
• The “Horus Heresy” publications will only be in use where the Event Pack specifically says so.

For Warhammer Events
• A Warhammer Armies: Book
• A Warhammer Forge publication (including digital updates)
•Warhammer Forge Experimental Rules
•Scrolls of Battle
•Scrolls of Binding and Sorcerous Pacts from the Storm of Magic publication*

*Special Note about how to use Scrolls of Binding and
Sorcerous Pacts in events at Warhammer World.
You can take Scrolls of Binding and Sorcerous Pacts
using their normal limits from your Special choice
allowance.

It CLEARLY says at Warhammer World events.

it actually says 'events at warhammer world' not warhammer world events.

in any case I am hardly being childish and your post doesn't actually state anything I did not.

I have no agenda other than we can finally put the anti-fw argument to bed as it no longer has any founding due to this dramatic change of events.

in any case I'll leave this here.

I'll take back the childish point, and I apologize for it.

 nutty_nutter wrote:
it actually says 'events at warhammer world' not warhammer world events.

There is no difference between the two. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. An event at Warhammer World IS a Warhammer world event.

Interesting. When did FW ever do a "digital" update? They've released FAQs on their books as PDFs, but that isn't a "digital update". A "digital update" would be an update to an iBook or ebook.

Either way, nutter, I'm failing to see how this applies to YMDC at all. We've discussed FW rules with no issues. If people don't want to use FW then that's how they want to play the game, which is totally fine.

Maybe you should stop telling others how to play with their toys. Me: I couldn't care less. Use FW or not, it won't impact my ability to enjoy the game.

 nutty_nutter wrote:
for those who have not yet heard the news, you will likely soon.

NEW WARRIORS CODE

the new updated warriors code now allows all FW 40k approved and experimental rules When attending events at Warhammer World.

we must now start taking all this into account When attending events at Warhammer World.

Fixed that for you with the red.

It changes nothing for other events run elsewhere, unless they adopt the same rules.

I love FW but I'm not going to hang my hat on a document for use at a specific place.

Also #12 is about as anti-YMDC as it gets and should be the biggest red flag with regard to its applicability to this forum.

The anti-forgeworld issue is to do with balance. It's hard to balance a lot of the forgeworld stuff against normal GW when someone can outbuy competitors.

How do you expect the kid that has got a basic SM army to tackle a reaver? It's not very balanced.

I couldn't care one way or the other on FW being included but what a TO does at their tournament is up to them. If they don't allow FW, they are entitled to make that decision. If you don't like it mention it to them, politely and if nothing happens then either set up your own or live with it.

GW moved out of tournaments for many reasons, the stuff at warhammer world is far more about building communities in their stores and organising store groups to go. What a GW TO says doesn't make any impact on my tournament unless it comes in an FAQ.

That "rulespack" is to let people know ahead of time what the standing orders are for GW events. It is not an FAQ or game changer, it is probably a response to some issues that arose in the last year at their event. It's similar to how lots of UK and Irish conventions have started including harassment policies due to a few issues that have been heard about.

Also the title is very pointed, you're not a mod.

Local Games Workshop of mine specifically dissalows FW...
What happens at another one a few miles away is irrelevant.
His choice, as manager... We respect it.
I personally play FW and love it, just not in store.