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2014/01/23 00:31:53
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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120,000 light years across, so just the size of the Milky Way.
Tyran wrote:Slightly larger than Milky Way IIRC.
Interesting, thanks.
Tyran wrote:I imagine that the Tyranids have developed some countermeasure against warp rifts, probably something like spreading their ships to avoid most of the damage.
Judging by the impact the Dominus Astra had they'd have to spread out a great deal and that also reduces the effectiveness of their ships. Either way the Imperium benefits.
Psienesis wrote:There are more Tyranids than the Imperium has ships.
Indeed, but the Dominus Astra took out a large proportion of a Hive Fleet. It completely turned the tide of battle. That's an incredibly powerful weapon to have on each of your Imperial Navy ships. Smaller ships may result in smaller explosions, but it's still strange that it's never really picked up again (aside from an apparently Ultramarines attempt to replicate it by shooting a ship (or station or something) with a Warp drive which leads to the further questions of why such a large explosion doesn't happen every time and why they weren't willing to just have a suicide crew). Honestly, I think this a plot hole. Mentioned two times, once in a Codex and once in Black Library even though it would be crippling against any fleet without Gellar Fields. Even with Gellar Fields it's hard to judge the impact.
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2014/01/23 00:38:32
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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 Psienesis wrote:SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
I don't think anything has been mentioned about the consequences of the Dominus Astra detonating it's Warp Drive and taking out most of a Hive Fleet near Macragge. I'm unconvinced that it would actually create a Warp rift any more than a Vortex bomb or D-Cannon does. It'd be expensive, yes, but considering the damage it did to Hive Fleet Behemoth it'd be worth it. And a crew willing to sacrifice themselves on such a suicide run wouldn't be hard to find in the Imperium. The hardest thing to do would like be to convince the tech-priests to let it happen to their sacred machines.
There are more Tyranids than the Imperium has ships.
This is true but unless the centuries it takes to make a large Imperial ship is spent developing the warp drive making bombs out of them would be much cheap and easier.
@Tyran
Yeah... for some reason the Tyranid fleet sees fit to fly in a really close formation in space for whatever reason despite having so much, well, space. It would be easy to counteract the Warp Drive bomb by just spacing itself out really wide. Why do starcraft in 40k go so close to each other? It makes zero sense...
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2014/01/23 00:43:45
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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The tightness of their formations might have something to do with synapse. Similar to how synapse on the ground doesn't seem to operate on the same scale of say, radio waves, it could be that Tyranid ship synapse is short-ranged enough that formations are required to remain together in order to coordinate.
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2014/01/23 01:10:40
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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 TheCustomLime wrote: Psienesis wrote:SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
I don't think anything has been mentioned about the consequences of the Dominus Astra detonating it's Warp Drive and taking out most of a Hive Fleet near Macragge. I'm unconvinced that it would actually create a Warp rift any more than a Vortex bomb or D-Cannon does. It'd be expensive, yes, but considering the damage it did to Hive Fleet Behemoth it'd be worth it. And a crew willing to sacrifice themselves on such a suicide run wouldn't be hard to find in the Imperium. The hardest thing to do would like be to convince the tech-priests to let it happen to their sacred machines.
There are more Tyranids than the Imperium has ships.
This is true but unless the centuries it takes to make a large Imperial ship is spent developing the warp drive making bombs out of them would be much cheap and easier.
@Tyran
Yeah... for some reason the Tyranid fleet sees fit to fly in a really close formation in space for whatever reason despite having so much, well, space. It would be easy to counteract the Warp Drive bomb by just spacing itself out really wide. Why do starcraft in 40k go so close to each other? It makes zero sense...
This is the Imperium. Warp Drives are not a well-understood science.
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2014/01/23 02:40:25
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Mexico
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The thing here is that why the Imperium or anyone else hadn't already done warp drive bombs? A giant "go to hell" weapon is going to be effective not only against Tyranids but also against everybody else. Crazy Chaos fleet that attacks the Imperium? well they literary go to hell. Stupid monkey ships that defile an Exodite World, they also go to hell. Evil Robots? also to hell.
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2014/01/23 20:45:52
Subject: Tyranids and exterminatis
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Because opening Warp Rifts on planets you want to live on is a terrible, terrible, stupid idea.
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