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If the new tyranid codex with recycled pictures and swifly rushed out the door poorly planned untested rules are any indication of your current priorities, we will stick with the current one. Answering to the almighty shareholder with a poor product that will not help you sell plastic is not a strategy for success.

What? No, and hell no. Just because people whine incessantly about one codex means nothing, they whine about every codex. People whined that the new Eldar codex sucked, before they realied it was good. It's never as bad as the initial whining makes it out to be.

 Melissia wrote:
What? No, screw you no. Just because people whine incessantly about one codex means nothing, they whine about every codex. People whined that the new Eldar codex sucked, before they realied it was good. It's never as bad as the initial whining makes it out to be.

Can we just have this auto-respond to every new codex thread?

I edited it by the way.

But meh. Orks can always use more stuff.

Well that nid codex is a treasure trove of misspellings and poorly-written, unclear rules.

So has editions of the BRB and every codex since first edition.

For example, they "forgot" that half of the Major Orders of Sisters even existed in one (IIRC, fifth?) edition.

Well I remember when the Ork codex came out and it was before my several year hiatus, so they do really need a new one. Orks will always be Orks, there ain't much that can go wrong.

 BladeTX wrote:
Well that nid codex is a treasure trove of misspellings and poorly-written, unclear rules.

So it's pretty run of the mill then, yeah?

 Melissia wrote:
I edited it by the way.

But meh. Orks can always use more stuff.

Yep, and some things need to be fixed. Like Flash Gitz and Zzap cannons.

I am also curious as to what Warlord traits they will receive. Should be interesting.

Funny how people are complaining so much about the new Tyranid codex even thoughit's been out for 2 damn days

Nobody likes change that's the problem...everyone will find something to complain about

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
I edited it by the way.

But meh. Orks can always use more stuff.

Yep, and some things need to be fixed. Like Flash Gitz and Zzap cannons.

I am also curious as to what Warlord traits they will receive. Should be interesting.

Ooooo wait for it. One of them has to be fear . We have SM with fear, CSM with fear, and I believe SoB with fear. For some odd reason, GW seems to REALLY think fear is something good and awesome

 StarTrotter wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
I edited it by the way.

But meh. Orks can always use more stuff.

Yep, and some things need to be fixed. Like Flash Gitz and Zzap cannons.

I am also curious as to what Warlord traits they will receive. Should be interesting.

Ooooo wait for it. One of them has to be fear . We have SM with fear, CSM with fear, and I believe SoB with fear. For some odd reason, GW seems to REALLY think fear is something good and awesome

Or maybe they think it's so harmless, everyone should have it. Like puppies

 chiefbigredman wrote:
Funny how people are complaining so much about the new Tyranid codex even thoughit's been out for 2 damn days

Nobody likes change that's the problem...everyone will find something to complain about

Does time suddenly change things? Sure someone will figure out some power cheese combo in time, but it doesn't change the fact that taken as a whole this codex is pretty bland and disappointing.

Every codex is "bland and disappointing".

 Melissia wrote:
What? No, and hell no. Just because people whine incessantly about one codex means nothing, they whine about every codex. People whined that the new Eldar codex sucked, before they realied it was good. It's never as bad as the initial whining makes it out to be.

Where does this new "people whined about the Eldar codex" meme come from?
I was there. Never happened.

Most "new" codexes have a lot of recycled art and text content.

Necrons was unusual in changing such a lot of the army and people complained about it.

 Code wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
What? No, and hell no. Just because people whine incessantly about one codex means nothing, they whine about every codex. People whined that the new Eldar codex sucked, before they realied it was good. It's never as bad as the initial whining makes it out to be.

Where does this new "people whined about the Eldar codex" meme come from?
I was there. Never happened.

We whined about how the Howling Banshees were donky gak. Which turned out true

 Mahtamori wrote:

 Code wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
What? No, and hell no. Just because people whine incessantly about one codex means nothing, they whine about every codex. People whined that the new Eldar codex sucked, before they realied it was good. It's never as bad as the initial whining makes it out to be.

Where does this new "people whined about the Eldar codex" meme come from?
I was there. Never happened.

We whined about how the Howling Banshees were donky gak. Which turned out true

Well, that's hardly whining then. That's justified criticism.

 BladeTX wrote:
Well that nid codex is a treasure trove of misspellings and poorly-written, unclear rules.

Well, I don't have the codex yet. But I have no expectations whatsoever. However, I'm curious to see a new Ork codex. Orks were always fun to play and they hopefully will be in the future incarnation of the codex.

i hope the same, but i fear for the future of the WAAAAGH!
If they nerf the nob bikers and/or lootas , my army can go on retirement

but we do need a new codex!

They should just give all Orks feel no pain instead of armour saves. Goes with the fluff.

 welshhoppo wrote:
They should just give all Orks feel no pain instead of armour saves. Goes with the fluff.

I like that and given that unless fighting IG ork armour saves are kind of pointless as is. I'd laugh at an army full of FnP orks.

Skriker

 welshhoppo wrote:
They should just give all Orks feel no pain instead of armour saves. Goes with the fluff.

Well, at least they'll get a save against ignore cover. I would prefer they keep their saves as well though. I like my 'ard boyz.

'Ard Boys could have 4+ FNP.

Awww, quit your complaining. 9x Carnifex lists are kicking the streets now, so that will be fun. Besides, half your weapons do more to harm you than good, and you have a Wierdboy who can't even use half his powers, last I checked. You need the update.

 Unyielding Hunger wrote:
Awww, quit your complaining. 9x Carnifex lists are kicking the streets now, so that will be fun. Besides, half your weapons do more to harm you than good, and you have a Wierdboy who can't even use half his powers, last I checked. You need the update.

Yep, and Zzap cannons, which are meant to be our ranged anti-AV14, is woefully unpredictable.

The only thing we have other than that is

the Shok Attack Gun (unpredictable)

Kannons (only by glancing)

Tank Bustas (only by glancing AND unreliable)

I think the OP is just stating how little trust he, and the pretty much the community in general have with GW at this point.

Looking at pure 6th ed books we see very poor quality control, non-existent FAQs that are sorely needed, generally predictable releases (one new kit, one flyer/fmc, one dual build heavy walker/tank, one three pack elite/heavy unit, and/or repackaged unit with detestable price change), indications of almost no play testing, introduction battle reports that get laughed at, and instead of a power creep we're getting power waves.

My friends that I play with have almost lost all interest with the game. It's great to see regular updates, and should keep lists flexible and adaptable. But we aren't really seeing that. The problems with the current meta aren't getting any counters to try and balance it. As much as I love Tau, I can't help but feel bad seeing the nid codex because every strong unit has a strong counter in the Tau codex while Nids will generally have little answers for Tau in response.

This is a great example of bad imbalance. Instead of a new codex coming out and changing the current meta, it reinforces it.

 Unyielding Hunger wrote:
Awww, quit your complaining. 9x Carnifex lists are kicking the streets now, so that will be fun. Besides, half your weapons do more to harm you than good, and you have a Wierdboy who can't even use half his powers, last I checked. You need the update.

sometimes it can be hilarious

LOL... so much fail in people who think the new nids are a nerf...

riighht, all the basic core elements of the army went down in points, and your entire army can now have a 3+ cover save .....
and yes, you do actually get to roll cover saves, even against tau... if they have enough marker lights to take cover away from more then 1-2 units a turn, they wont have enough fire power to actually destroy those units...

just internet people complaining cause they want to...

orks have HUGE holes in their dex, we have nothing to deal with av14, nothing to deal with MC's, nothing to deal with flyers, nothing to deal with anything that is half decent in CC and goes before us... horrible armour/invunerables for a cc army... horrible weapon options... for a CC themed army, we have nothing top teir as far as CC goes.. warbossed are a joke in a lot of combats with decent opponents...

yes yes, I know we have PK's on nobs and warbosses, but they are over costed, and hard to actually get into position, and still means our two HQ's must be PK bosses...


luckily everyone treats CC as a joke, so orks do "ok" in it if they actually get there... but that can change very easily.

 Melissia wrote:
Every codex is "bland and disappointing".

I think the daemon book is rich and full of awesome sauce. The Tyranid book is trash. Why? Because it's a reprint of the 5th book (which was also trash) but even worse... The only thing keeping bugs afloat was biomancy and that's gone.