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 BlackTalos wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
Have you got the exact rules for the beam in your codex? Could you quote them?

I don't mean to sound rude, but if you don't have access to the rule being discussed you really shouldn't be telling people how it's played.

I suppose quoting and basing myself on the BrB RaW is not enough? We must own the codexes we discuss in YMDC?

You need access to a rule to discuss a rule, certainly. Otherwise you quite litterally don't know what you're talking about.
And this website cannot be used as a substitute for owning a codex.

 grendel083 wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
Have you got the exact rules for the beam in your codex? Could you quote them?

I don't mean to sound rude, but if you don't have access to the rule being discussed you really shouldn't be telling people how it's played.

I suppose quoting and basing myself on the BrB RaW is not enough? We must own the codexes we discuss in YMDC?

You need access to a rule to discuss a rule, certainly. Otherwise you quite litterally don't know what you're talking about.
And this website cannot be used as a substitute for owning a codex.

Agreed, however a Death Ray follows the standard rules in the shooting sequence, if i am to believe most posters in the thread. It is compared to a template weapon.

Therefore my argument, contained within the BrB still applies?

If possible, sure. If not, then no. It definitely 'does' help to be able to discuss the rules found therein though no?

In this case though the weapon lacks any specific reason to all target the same point on the map, and 'definitely' supersedes the normal rules for targeting a unit. Ergo, you are free to fire it as it is written by selecting points on the table as per it's write-up and do not have to declare any given unit as the recipient of the death you are about to unleash.

You know what I like most about Forgeworld, compared to GW? Ask them a question you get an answer.

It is very different from Beam, so don't get all snippy.

 Psienesis wrote:
The Pylon rules seem to suggest that the initial selected point on the table is the "target".

That would suggest, then, that every other Pylon in the squadron uses that point as well in this shooting phase, but rolls its 3d6 separately, and could then (conceivably) draw lines out to the limit of your 3d6 (for each Pylon) and land hits on who/whatever unlucky bastards happen to be under those lines.

Seems, to me, to be the best agreement between Pylons and regular unit-shooting rules. You're now all shooting at the same target, inasmuch as a Pylon has a target.

This sounds sensible. I've asked Forgeworld...

What's the normal process for faqs?

 Happyjew wrote:
You know what I like most about Forgeworld, compared to GW? Ask them a question you get an answer.

I hope you're right. I have emailed. So far: no response.

normal process for a FAQ is you email the GW team, they send you an automated response thanking you for sending a question and explain that it may or may not make it into the FAQ when they update (on their invisible schedule)

the FW one is usually when they feel like it, although they used to at least answer questions via email too....that being said that will still fall victim to the 'joe blogs who checks the emails is not a rules writer and as such is not a credible source' or 'it cannot be verified, so it cannot be submitted as proof'.

in short you can ask but there's no guarantees of an answer or resolution to your issue.

back on topic a little, picking a point on the table does not = not electing a target unit.

your replacing your rolls to hit with the placement of a 'point' or marker and rolling 3D6 for the distance covered, you still have to nominate a unit to shoot at. the deathray rules themselves do not specifically state that they do not include the nomination process so by default they must.

From Forgeworld, re Pylon squadrons:

Thank you for your email. All the Deathrays have to fire at the same target, but the each sentry pylon fires individually. So, they all have to nominate the same point on the table, but then each of them rolls 3D6 to see how far the ray extends, but this has to be in the same direction.