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 solkan wrote:
Personally offended by the implications of the original poster's post.

As far as I can tell, it's a sculptor saying, "I refuse to let minor concerns like playability constrain how I design a model, even though I'm selling war gaming models."

It does come off as a little fingers-in-ears, head-in-sand.
But that said, they are his models. He can sculpt them the way he pleases and there is nothing in this world that is forcing you to buy one.

 solkan wrote:
Personally offended by the implications of the original poster's post.

As far as I can tell, it's a sculptor saying, "I refuse to let minor concerns like playability constrain how I design a model, even though I'm selling war gaming models."

Offended? Wow. That's a pretty severe reaction to an artist making what he wants to make.

Look at it like this; he's saying, "I know that small factors, like fractions of an inch, are important to some people when they're using models for gaming. I don't feel that way, personaly. These models are designed and sculpted to look GOOD, first and foremost. Just thought you should be made aware of that in advance, so you don't buy something that won't work for your purposes, in case you're one of those people."

It's far less offensive that way.

Eric

Balrogoth looks like a perfect Skarbrand!

 solkan wrote:
Personally offended by the implications of the original poster's post.

As far as I can tell, it's a sculptor saying, "I refuse to let minor concerns like playability constrain how I design a model, even though I'm selling war gaming models."

If that's all it takes to "personally offend" you then I'd hate to see your reaction to the above 2 posters disagreeing with you...

 MagickalMemories wrote:
Look at it like this; he's saying, "I know that small factors, like fractions of an inch, are important to some people when they're using models for gaming. I don't feel that way, personaly. These models are designed and sculpted to look GOOD, first and foremost. Just thought you should be made aware of that in advance, so you don't buy something that won't work for your purposes, in case you're one of those people."

Yeah, Games Workshop's sculptors seem to work under the same philosophy... they're just not as upfront about it.

I think there's plenty of room in the market for miniatures that are just designed to look good.

Those miniatures look amazing.

I am looking forward to see how the kickstarter goes.

I can’t say if I will support it though, it all depends on the cost of the mini and postage, and when they are done.

But I could use a nice big treeman though I would rather like the treewoman instead which is hinted as a stretch goal in the video and on the facebook page
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1017144_630389670329448_609428902_n.jpg

 solkan wrote:
Personally offended by the implications of the original poster's post.

As far as I can tell, it's a sculptor saying, "I refuse to let minor concerns like playability constrain how I design a model, even though I'm selling war gaming models."

Let me get this straight...you're "personally offended"?!!!

How can you take anything in the OP as aimed at you?

Further, how was any of it offensive in any way, shape or form?

Offended? That's a good one.

Back on topic, this KS will be getting some of my money. Those kits are amazing.

Shawn G. (SoI)

Definitely going to be backing this...

Looks really good! I look forward to the Kickstarter. The glabrezu ('belshazu') looks awesome. I have the Ultraforge vrock and this will be a good accompaniment.

If those masters are 3d printed I can't wait for the future of that.

But on topic these are beautiful I just hope they aren't out of my price range.

Ditto

These models are amazing, and I wish you the best of luck!

Will there be the ability to construct the dragons without the baskets on top?

I believe he mentioned on the Facebook page that the saddle-less dragons might be something that happens as a stretch goal, though it is not 100%.

 Buttlerthepug wrote:
I believe he mentioned on the Facebook page that the saddle-less dragons might be something that happens as a stretch goal, though it is not 100%.

I hope that eventuates.

That Treeman is the best I've ever seen. If I hadn't sold my WE I'd be on it day one. :(

Wow Jeremy, the translation to digital model building has not hampered your ability what so ever! These all look gorgeous! I think I have enough 'stand in' GUO's to fill my own garden of nurgle. But I'll still be picking up a few of these great models. And here I hoped this year would yield less 'must have' kickstarters, and now I'm already shelling it out for metal beards, and these guys. It's a lot of hard earned money that I'm happy to put into cool and imaginative products.

Maybe I can run a kickstarter of my own to pay off my mortgage?

This scale video went out by twitter;




I must say that I too am amazed by the Female demon concept: it puts comparable GW models to shame not only in scale, but in design!

Now, of course, to the little matter of cost...

Damn they look nice, I think I'll have to go in for at least a couple.

You aren't wrong Buzz. That female demon is pretty amazing and does certainly put the GW KoS to shame and it's easily comparable to the FW one.

Can't wait to see the dragons in action.

My word I was expecting a bit bigger but that really is quite large. Still think they're a little on the small side to use as the gargantuans with perhaps the exception of the slaanesh stand in, so at least they won't be too insane as greater daemon replacements. Especially as if GW did do new ones they'd inevitably be larger than the current iterations.

Oh MAN I can't wait for this!!!!!!!

I really like what I'm seeing here in terms of scaling and size, and have totally revised my thinking on this one...

Uh oh!

 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
My word I was expecting a bit bigger but that really is quite large. Still think they're a little on the small side to use as the gargantuans with perhaps the exception of the slaanesh stand in, so at least they won't be too insane as greater daemon replacements. Especially as if GW did do new ones they'd inevitably be larger than the current iterations.

That's what I was thinking as well. I'm thinking of picking one of them up and then building a Chaos Demon army around it..

 crazyfoxdemon wrote:


That's what I was thinking as well. I'm thinking of picking one of them up and then building a Chaos Demon army around it..

Sculpts look great; looking forward to a purchase. Good luck Jeremy!

Some well thought out points in this latest video;




I think that he has the right of it on the names: my one big complaint about Mierce's kickstarters is that I find the names impenetrable, which leaves me hunting for updates with pictures when the discussion about specific changes and things occurs.

Really looking forward to this KS. Only really pledged to Red Box before, and that was a bumpy ride (though it delivered in the end), but Ultraforge had some great models and I'm glad to see Jeremy's still at it. The old Greater Plague Demon is one of my favorite models ever and I've got a Vrock lying around that still needs to be painted. I remember seeing thumbnails of WIPs of Arushnee and Ganadhar years ago, and I've been wondering what the hell happened to them ever since.

Anyway, Arushnee and Morbat are literally perfect and far better than anything that's come out of GW recently. Balrogoth is great, maybe a little cliched. Only improvement I could think of for him would be some (minimal) armor, although maybe those skulls on his arms and legs would look good painted bronze. I'd also prefer an axe to a sword but that's a minor quibble. NOT much of a fan of Ganadhar, I don't really care for the gutmouth or the way he's standing on those stumpy little legs - always assumed *ahem* "Greater Plague Demons" just kind of slid around like slugs or something, pulling themselves along on what legs they had rather than walking, and the empty space beneath him takes away from the idea that he's a giant mountain of rot. Glad to hear he's being re-thought, though. Love the dragons, and I think Belshazu is really the best sculpt out of all of them (really nice details and a great pose), but I don't have a use for them at the moment.

Hoping to get in on one of those early bird deals. Definitely pledging for Arushnee and Morbat, Balrogoth is seriously tempting - not having a good Bloodthirster stand-in has been one of the main things stopping me from painting my Daemon army. Also laziness.

At what point do we stop calling them miniatures?

Those guys in the video don't look so mini to me!

Quite impressive! Hopefully I can afford one or two!

Oh crud, it didn't occur to me that these guys are Canadian, the shipping on these is going to be atrocious isn't it :(