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2017/12/20 11:58:43
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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reds8n wrote: .... possibly confirms some of the darker theories about the HH/the big E
Feels pretty nailed on to me:
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2017/12/20 12:13:31
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Oh indeed.
.. or that could, of course, all be lies.
..that said
https://twitter.com/LaurieGoulding/status/941717503847231488
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/20 13:15:29
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Quite a big chunk of the theory has been covered in other books here and there, I suspect it is:
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2017/12/20 13:23:31
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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reds8n wrote:
I'll give a shout out to the previously mentioned Malcador audio drama by Mr Goulding -- that is very good indeed.
.... possibly confirms some of the darker theories about the HH/the big E.
I'll probably never listen/read that one, so please feel free to spoiler that here for us!
Please?
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2017/12/20 13:36:44
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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spoilers are spoilerific
Some of this has indeed been hinted at or referred to before.
edit :
oh yeah
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/20 15:51:43
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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I suspect that this is one of the lies:
I thought one of the books on Russ implied that
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2017/12/20 17:20:50
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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That certainly was one implication.
But bear in mind there was also the idea that the Ultras got very big very quickly -- nudge nudge wink wink -- or it could've been a reference to the incident with Angron and the WE.
that said ...
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/20 18:31:56
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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I must admit, while I was initially 100% on board for all of this HH stuff, a lot of the 'big reveals' have been *VERY* disappointing so far, with the one big reveal that I actually liked being (allegedly) very much not liked by many other authors and has since been effectively undone.
Too much mystery revealed, if that makes sense.
Still, holding out hope for a fantastic ending, and then moving on to other things.
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2017/12/20 22:19:00
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Dakka Veteran
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so did they killed off gabriel?
Edit 1: ... wait is this why BA didn't get chapter rules for flesh tearers?
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2017/12/21 00:28:41
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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aracersss wrote:so did they killed off gabriel?
Edit 1: ... wait is this why BA didn't get chapter rules for flesh tearers?
He's alive as of the end of the story.
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2017/12/21 00:31:49
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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How was the Ynaari short story today?
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2017/12/21 08:48:53
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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reds8n wrote: That certainly was one implication.
But bear in mind there was also the idea that the Ultras got very big very quickly -- nudge nudge wink wink -- or it could've been a reference to the incident with Angron and the WE.
that said ...
My take on that was that:
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2017/12/21 10:05:47
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Looky Likey wrote: reds8n wrote: That certainly was one implication.
But bear in mind there was also the idea that the Ultras got very big very quickly -- nudge nudge wink wink -- or it could've been a reference to the incident with Angron and the WE.
that said ...
My take on that was that:
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2017/12/21 10:27:00
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/21 11:05:02
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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That's the one I'm thinking off, from Betrayal.
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2017/12/21 11:19:26
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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I think that Leman's pups boasts about fighting other astartes are related to their fight with WE where Leman was almost killed by Angron. One of FW books strongly hints that the lost legions were eliminated during the fight with some extremaly dangerous xenos where also DA (the strongest legion) were decimated, As to TW, they were culled by Custodes with suport from all nascent legions.
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2017/12/21 11:32:54
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Shadow Walker wrote:I think that Leman's pups boasts about fighting other astartes are related to their fight with WE where Leman was almost killed by Angron. One of FW books strongly hints that the lost legions were eliminated during the fight with some extremaly dangerous xenos where also DA (the strongest legion) were decimated, As to TW, they were culled by Custodes with suport from all nascent legions.
But why would that result in them being so shrouded in mystery?
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2017/12/21 11:40:53
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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tneva82 wrote: Shadow Walker wrote:I think that Leman's pups boasts about fighting other astartes are related to their fight with WE where Leman was almost killed by Angron. One of FW books strongly hints that the lost legions were eliminated during the fight with some extremaly dangerous xenos where also DA (the strongest legion) were decimated, As to TW, they were culled by Custodes with suport from all nascent legions.
But why would that result in them being so shrouded in mystery?
Because it would not be good for morale when some xenos could wipe out 2 legions and their bosses. Especially so early in the crusade.
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2017/12/21 17:13:55
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Those xenos would be the Khrave, who are described as being fething terrifying. They also were not wiped out in the GC, only heavily decimated, so I hold out hope for them one day being added to 40k. A xenos race that could knock the First Legion from being the largest and most powerful Legion by a long way into a fairly average Legion in power? That is a damn powerful xenos species!
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2017/12/21 17:39:57
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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No, it was the Rangdan Xenocides that the Dark Angels were so depleted in, against the ‘Rangdan Cerabvores’. The Space Wolves, Death Guard and War Hounds were involved too.
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2017/12/21 17:46:22
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Huh, now I'm gonna have to check my books, because I thought the Rangdan Xenocides were against the Khrave, and Rangdan referred to the region of space.
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2017/12/21 17:55:50
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Haighus wrote:Huh, now I'm gonna have to check my books, because I thought the Rangdan Xenocides were against the Khrave, and Rangdan referred to the region of space.
This is from Inferno, the SW section:
The turning point for the legion perhaps came during and after the Rangdan Xenocides of the 860s. At last the Expeditionary fleets had breached the Eastern Fringe of the galaxy and in doing so had attracted the attention of the Rangdan Cerabvores, a species of such macabre power and technologcial might it seemed, for a time at least, that the Imperium had met its doom. Facing waves of attackes from the galactic east and north, and suffering losses that would not be exceeded until the dark days of the Heresy, the wars of the Rangdan Xenocides were the most terrible of any yet fought.
Whole Expeditionary fleets went to their deaths without a single survivor, worlds were laid waste, dozens of Titan Legions were obliterated and by the end entire Space Marine Legions [REDACTED SECTION] lost to the Imperium. Much of what happened during this abyssal conflict is still locked under seal, but what can be said is that with the breaking of the Labyrinth of Night by the Emperor, the threat was at last stymied. What remained was for the Rangdan taint to be purged in a subsequent decade-long series of bio-pogroms that left entire human inhabited sectors lifeless to ensure what was hoped to be a final victory. It was then given to the Space Wolves of the VIth and the Dark Angels of the Ist - the latter who had suffered themselves so very dreadfully against the horror - to conduct these purges, these two Legions entrusted above all others to do what had to be done.
Horus and his Legion, who had been otherwise occupied in the ongoing wars in the galactic west, were now firmly in the ascendance in the eyes of the Great Crusade, and with him and those other Legions who retained their strength having not suffered at the Rangdan’s hands did the future of the next few decades of conquest and expansion now rest.
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2017/12/21 18:44:35
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Yeah, I got my wires crossed Galactic East eh? Almost sounds like they are fleeing something even more apocalyptic...
Don't the Tyranids come from the Eastern Fringe..?
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2017/12/22 23:10:30
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Got the malcador audio story. First for me. Not sure what to think of revelations. Otoh does explain emperor's actions better than he's idiot. Otoh feels like it lessens tragedy of it all which is what i like about horus heresy
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2017/12/25 05:48:01
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Geez, there was a new Audio drama of a Wanderer/Wood elf in ShadeSpire yesterday and I hear about it everywhere but the place for my main BL info. (I.E. here)
Also, can't seem to access BL site from my mobile from my phone anymore. That happen to anyone else?
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2017/12/25 10:16:39
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/nagash-the-undying-king-ebook.html
Nagash: The Undying King
A Warhammer Age of Sigmar novel
In the Realm of Death, the Rictus clans face their most relentless enemy ever, and even the intervention of two of the Great Necromancer’s Mortarchs might not be enough to turn back the lumbering minions of the Plague God. Where is Nagash, the Undying King, when the people of Shyish need him most?
READ IT BECAUSE
It's a look at day to day life in the Realm of Death – and even there, the winds of Chaos sweep across the lands and bring ruin. And Josh Reynolds writing Nagash's servants is never less than entertaining
THE STORY
Since the dark days of the Great Awakening, the scattered remnants of humanity have clung to a bleak existence, surviving howsoever they can, no matter what the cost. Tamra, a voivode of the Rictus clans, fights one last, desperate battle for the survival of her tribe, the Drak. Now her people face their most relentless enemy ever – the lumbering minions of the Plague God. Where is their lord Nagash, the Undying King, when his people need him most? As the gods and their servants vie for power in the Mortal Realms, Tamra is drawn into a deadly game between life and death, as beings long thought gone start to exert their powers once again.
Written by Josh Reynolds
This novel was previously available as a Warhammer World-exclusive limited edition.
The hardback and MP3 will be available to order from the 3rd March
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/26 09:36:34
Subject: Re: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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https://www.trackofwords.com/2017/12/25/the-primarchs-audio-dramas-with-robbie-macniven-laurie-goulding-and-ian-st-martin/
nice little interview about the 3 primarch related audios this advent. Automatically Appended Next Post: https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/sons-of-the-hydra-ebook.html
e-format early release, hardback in Jan :
Sons of the Hydra
An Alpha Legion ePremiere!
Alpha legionnaire Occam the Untrue leads his warband out of its hunting grounds in the Maelstrom on an epic quest for salvation, not just for himself, but for his whole Legion.
READ IT BECAUSE
It's a novel about the sneakiest and most oblique of traitors, written by Rob Sanders, master of the twisty-turny tale. It's sure to make your head spin…
THE STORY
In the hostile universe of the 41st millennium, where allegiances are ever fickle, few of the Emperor’s sons are more difficult to understand or predict than the Alpha Legion. Branded traitor since the Heresy, their motives and actions have always been shrouded in mystery. Alpha Legionnaire Occam the Untrue leads his warband out of its hunting grounds in the Maelstrom on an epic quest for salvation, not just for himself, but for his whole Legion. With the forces of the Inquisition snapping at their heels, Occam and his followers must use all their guile and considerable martial prowess as they make their way to the cold heart of the galaxy, to a confrontation that no one, least of all Occam himself, could have foreseen.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2017/12/26 23:24:16
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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I want to believe but...
Previous treatment of the Alpha Legion
Current treatment of the Alpha Legion
Rob Sanders
Expectations set very, very low...
The Alpha Legion had so much potential, but almost all gone now, like tears in rain...
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2017/12/26 23:35:53
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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The Serpent Beneath is the only Rob Sanders AL story I know and I really liked that.
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2017/12/26 23:47:46
Subject: Black Library News/Rumours Thread : Xmas Advent
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Yeah, that one isn't that good - it is part of the 'problem' of the post Legion Legion.
It was definitely a deliberate step on the de-Abnetting the Alpha Legion road.
I...do not like.
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