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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 12:43:52
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably quite big. That chassis looks like at least land raider-size, maybe even a bit longer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 12:50:27
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like (depending on the size it turns out to be)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 12:53:17
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Really love the new Mechancium tank
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 12:54:00
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Blog 1 should give you an idea of scale: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BLOG_1.html
Or specifically:
The rulers have cm's shown, so should give you some basic idea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 12:59:09
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Calculating Commissar
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Hmm, so it is somewhere between 15 and 20cm long (not including gun barrel) so a little over 6".
Just gone and found my tape measure and compared to a Chimera- over 15cm chassis length is pretty big.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:23:44
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Can you use any of these new vehicles in 40k, or is it restricted to 30k?
Hopefully we'll see 40k rules but FW have said other stuff will be 30k only ("the Thallax and Castellax don't exist in 40k as the Legio Cybernetica was disbanded after the Horus Heresy.").
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:27:54
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Kelne
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Other Forum wrote:Hi,
Thank you for your email. The Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy is the pre-runner to the Adeptus Mechanicus, however there are many changed to it before it becomes the Adeptus Mechanicus.
The Rules for the Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy are not designed to be used in games of 40k. We currently have no plans to release rules for the Mechanicum in games of 40k.
Don't know if the quote is real, but if it is, FW should watch their spelling and reconsider making one of their best sellers more available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:30:22
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Was hoping it was a bit smaller. Quick, someone do a swap - the little Krios that could!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:35:28
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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We I'm definetly one step closer to an AM 30k force. Luckily my club lets 30k lists enter the 40k games. So I'm all in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:47:01
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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The New Miss Macross!
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Not particularly a fan of the Krios as it's a step too far in the Wierd War I direction for me personally. It's ok because the awesomeness of the Horus sculpt should keep my spirits up till next week's blog/releases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:08:21
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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Wow! I like that Krios, but the traversement of its gun makes it look more like artillery than battle tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:12:19
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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aka_mythos wrote:Wow! I like that Krios, but the traversement of its gun makes it look more like artillery than battle tank.
AA capability?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:16:27
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think it is considered a tank hunter. Here a turret-less design is often favoured because of the low silhouette and they are cheap and simple to produce - which would make no sense for the Mechanicum though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:23:23
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Calculating Commissar
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Kosake wrote:I think it is considered a tank hunter. Here a turret-less design is often favoured because of the low silhouette and they are cheap and simple to produce - which would make no sense for the Mechanicum though.
Also because you can fit a bigger gun on the same sized chassis than in a turret.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:41:11
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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A lot of the HH art depicts the Mechanicum as big guns on tracks so this is with in that norm. It's more just a question of how well it fits it's role. It's suppose to be in place of a Predator Tank... The rules will probably end up with the lethality of all lascannons predator and autocannon/heavy bolter predator in one... Tank hunter?-Yes. Artillery?-Yes. But does this look like a Battle Tank?-I don't think so, as it doesn't look like it'd be able to acquire targets quickly enough.
That said... Take my MONEY!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 14:50:27
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Ooh me likey! Looks like a good alternative to the malcadore yank destroyer for 40k games. Will be getting one for my ad mech force
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 15:28:14
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The tank is bitchin'. I won't be playing Mechanicum, though, so I'll be passing.
I'll be picking up book 3 on release. Love the series so far.
Horus is easily my favorite Primarch to-date.
So much gak to buy and paint! No time for hobby right now. Sad Kronk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 15:40:35
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Oh man, that tank has gotten me one step closer to starting a Mechanicum army... The only thing stopping me is that it's so expensive... And that I don't know anybody who plays 30k...
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What do you call a lasgun with a laser sight? Twin-linked. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 15:46:04
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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So I guess GW/FW will never get tracks to go in the right direction.
Pretty cool idea though. Energy fields will allow for some really unique designs, eschewing armor plating.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 16:18:32
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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The Krios Battle Tank is not a tank, it's a self-propelled gun, sometimes also referred to as SPA or self-propelled artillery. Forge World staff probably know the difference too, but thought it would sell better if they called it a tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 16:44:43
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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SickSix wrote:So I guess GW/ FW will never get tracks to go in the right direction.
Should not be to hard to reverse the direction of the center hull section so that the gun faces the other direction...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 16:49:46
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
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Count me in for the plastic crack sold my apoc eldar to buy an ad mech force so glad I did getting to transform my salamanders to a full 30k instead of half and half I think guard will be my only 40k army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 16:56:37
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Tank looks amazing :O
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 18:10:54
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Fixture of Dakka
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I plan to get at least one.
I wonder if this lightning cannon will see appearances elsewhere, like say on the Knight Crusader or Castellan?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 18:33:47
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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As probably the biggest Ad-Mech fan and possibly the biggest collector of Mechanicum on Dakka, I think a pretty big deal to me to say I think it's pretty meh. The size of the tracks on either side overwhelm the chassis from a design standpoint, and just aren't that interesting or unique, and as prowla pointed out, it's pretty much just a giant Laser Destroyer upscaled, which is just incredibly lazy design. To date, the other Mechanicum models have been truly ground-breaking and unprecedented in GW design history, from the Magos to the Castellax, Thallaxi and Myrmidons, not to mention the Tech Thralls, although they haven't been without flaws (Too cluttered frontally on the Magos, Castellax having only three viable poses, Thallaxi heavy weapons unavailability and monopose (seriously, there are only two different arms, Tech-thralls have only a single torso, Myrmidon Secutors/Destructors have the same bodies.)
In terms of tank design, the Sicarian battle tank was definitely huge step forward in GW/ FW design, comparable to the step from the old Land Raider to the new Jes Goodwin Land Raider. The logical step for Mechanicum was to have either heavy grav-vehicles and wierd/creepy large walkers which would further play into the theme of their slow-moving, shooty hypertough monstrous creature army. The tank will look out completely out of place with my current army with the dullness of the giant rhomboids on either side of it.
I suppose I can take the gun and gunner and mount it onto this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eU0RRFb02ac/TbwZtNYlzsI/AAAAAAAAAHk/4yTGAi22DCg/s1600/tank_nohatch.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 19:39:15
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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It happens any time GW makes a new army or revisits an army after a long time, what you had before will tend to look out of place.
I don't think we'll see Mechanicum get large walkers beyond knights. Aesthetically I think GW/ FW see it as a chaos or dark Mechanicum thing. I'm inclined to believe we'll see more of these different tracked guns and varieties of robots, in addition to the infantry we're still waiting on. The tracked guns and robots seem to dominate the existing artwork.
MajorWesJanson wrote:I plan to get at least one.
I wonder if this lightning cannon will see appearances elsewhere, like say on the Knight Crusader or Castellan?
Things change, options get added, and I'm sure something impressive will happen to these Knights but I believe the crusader/castellan have previously had a quake cannon and either twin-linked lascannon or gatling heavy bolter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 19:53:07
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Love the Krios. Book three will probly be were i will take the dive into collecting a small force of ad-mec.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 20:29:38
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Other Forum wrote:Hi,
Thank you for your email. The Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy is the pre-runner to the Adeptus Mechanicus, however there are many changed to it before it becomes the Adeptus Mechanicus.
The Rules for the Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy are not designed to be used in games of 40k. We currently have no plans to release rules for the Mechanicum in games of 40k.
Why, oh why? That is bloody insane! I really love FW's Mechanicum models, but I won't be getting them unless they get proper 40K rules. I'm sure there are a ton of people who feel the same way; GW is losing huge potential sales because of this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 20:47:19
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Like that's going to stop anyone from using them in 40K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 20:47:31
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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That tank is fantastic. Must buy.
The Mechanicum stuff has been mostly an all round success (Myrmidons divide) and I hope they keep it up.
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