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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 10:16:53
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Asmodai Asmodean wrote:I find the idea that GW competes with itself pretty far-fetched, (just as far fetched as the closure of Forge World, their one unimpeachably successful brand). If this were so they'd produce quality products, instead of the gobshite that comes out of Nottingham.
I didn't say they compete effectively. Their competition methods seem to be based more on "undermine the enemy and take those sales for ourselves" than "make a superior product".
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 10:41:11
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Asmodai Asmodean wrote:I find the idea that GW competes with itself pretty far-fetched, (just as far fetched as the closure of Forge World, their one unimpeachably successful brand). If this were so they'd produce quality products, instead of the gobshite that comes out of Nottingham.
While I don't think Forgeworld's closure is likely I could see it being disbanded and folded into GW proper so it is no longer FW who are profitable and growing but GW proper.
As for the idea of GW competing with itself, it's absurd but it does happen. When you place orders via the in store terminals those orders count towards that store's sales, creating an environment where the managers are really pushy about ordering something from the terminal there and then rather than doing it at home. They do have to compete with the online store.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 10:58:58
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Indeed, it is just wild speculation. I get the feeling that with some of the recent decisions and direction being taken by FW, a Management Consultant type has looked at how FW operates and thinks that merging it with GW main will mean that osmosis of the success of FW will magically transfer to GW. It also allows them to do a huge amount of restructuring trying to make it more "efficient":
- We don't need that many creatives
- We already have a department writing rules - they can take on Imperial Armour. In fact, what's the point of this - Codex's will do...
- Resin production can be consolidated into a single department
- Not aligned with the core business in terms of marketing, delivery and branding - "align it to deliver cost savings!"
Bah, wild guesses. Though any meddling in FW has the potential to put people off
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 11:05:54
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Focused Fire Warrior
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That IW ship................drool. I can only imagine it as a BFG model. Please FW...PLEASE!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 11:45:55
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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I may have missed it, but do we have a price for the LE box set of books?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 11:52:17
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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dienekes96 wrote: Alpharius wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Hey Alpha, d'ya think this new book will contain two key and unique wargear options for the Alpha Legion:
1. Moustache (once per game twirl the moustache to gain re-rolls on everything until the start of your next turn).
2. Baby stapled to forehead (characters only, gives them the Fear special rule).
And then I cried, because that's pretty much what the Twentieth Legion has become now! 
To be fair, Alph...they should be whatever you want them to be. You don't have to live and die by what some hack (and a few good) writers continue to fall back on. When I hear some Star Wars fans bickering over what is "canon", I always chuckle. When examining the various fictional aspects of a completely made up universe, it is best to take a step back and ask yourself whether a hierarchy makes sense. And if so, shouldn't YOU control that hierarchy?
In the immortal words of (fictional) Egg Shen...consider it a buffet. Take what you like. Leave the rest.
Fair enough, good advice, and pretty much what I've already done!
Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
Maybe it is just that they weren't present for this series of battles.
Though I'll admit I chuckled at the thought of FW retconning Omegon out of the Horus Heresy background!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:04:44
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Calculating Commissar
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Alpharius wrote: Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
They must be hidden...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:07:53
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Alpharius wrote:
Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
Or, it could be that Alpharius has two profiles. He seems to fight differently depending on the day it is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:10:51
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Don't even tell me that FW/BL/GW is gonna pull a "Fight Club" on us!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:11:24
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Koppo wrote:I may have missed it, but do we have a price for the LE box set of books?
145 pounds.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Events/FWod14.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:23:48
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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zedmeister wrote: Alpharius wrote:
Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
Or, it could be that Alpharius has two profiles. He seems to fight differently depending on the day it is 
Last year at the HH weekender the comment from the design team was that Alpharius' rules should have your opponents shaking their fists in the air crying "Damn you Alpharius!"
Cheers, I think £145 well spent and well hidden from the Mrs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:27:31
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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So you kill him only to realise you've killed a bog standard Marine and he appears across the field in striking distance of the objective! "Damn you Alpharius!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 12:39:27
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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[DCM]
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zedmeister wrote:So you kill him only to realise you've killed a bog standard Marine and he appears across the field in striking distance of the objective!
"Damn you Alpharius!"
I could live with that!
(Ha!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:12:15
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Koppo wrote:zedmeister wrote: Alpharius wrote:
Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
Or, it could be that Alpharius has two profiles. He seems to fight differently depending on the day it is 
Last year at the HH weekender the comment from the design team was that Alpharius' rules should have your opponents shaking their fists in the air crying "Damn you Alpharius!"
Cheers, I think £145 well spent and well hidden from the Mrs.
Precisely what I'm doing too, warming the credit card and delivered to work  . Just need gen release date so can order before sells out as FW fan boys like me are numerous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:14:36
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Rick_1138 wrote: Koppo wrote:zedmeister wrote: Alpharius wrote:
Still, it is odd that there's no Effrit Stealth Squads and no Omegon in the book - at least not in the table of contents that I've seen.
Or, it could be that Alpharius has two profiles. He seems to fight differently depending on the day it is 
Last year at the HH weekender the comment from the design team was that Alpharius' rules should have your opponents shaking their fists in the air crying "Damn you Alpharius!"
Cheers, I think £145 well spent and well hidden from the Mrs.
Precisely what I'm doing too, warming the credit card and delivered to work  . Just need gen release date so can order before sells out as FW fan boys like me are numerous.
Hopefully they give a hint to people at the open day, otherwise I'm going to have to camp the new release window constantly!
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:22:20
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I have a feeling the 1,500 limited on the collectors edition may be a little small. This isn't a feckless GW limited edition, but a proper FW one with a full book of content. Quite a lot more people will want one!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:30:35
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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I want to 2 smaller books (the Legion specific book & the general army book).
If I know these were coming out I would probably wouldn't have got the first 2 & got 30K minis instead :(.
Hopefully FW will sell these separately & for about £30 - 35 each.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:31:58
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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zedmeister wrote:I have a feeling the 1,500 limited on the collectors edition may be a little small. This isn't a feckless GW limited edition, but a proper FW one with a full book of content. Quite a lot more people will want one!
It will sell faster than the 1000 shield generators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:36:35
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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kronk wrote: zedmeister wrote:I have a feeling the 1,500 limited on the collectors edition may be a little small. This isn't a feckless GW limited edition, but a proper FW one with a full book of content. Quite a lot more people will want one!
It will sell faster than the 1000 shield generators.
The shield generators sold out in 6 minutes...
I expect 2.5 minutes for the FW books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:40:56
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Kanluwen wrote: kronk wrote: zedmeister wrote:I have a feeling the 1,500 limited on the collectors edition may be a little small. This isn't a feckless GW limited edition, but a proper FW one with a full book of content. Quite a lot more people will want one!
It will sell faster than the 1000 shield generators.
The shield generators sold out in 6 minutes...
I expect 2.5 minutes for the FW books. 
Either that or the website will crash and the phones will be jammed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 13:42:08
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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I MUST have this collector's edition.
Damn you Forgeworld!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 15:29:08
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I will try this too,,,if there is anyone going at the event this weekend that is willing to buy it for me, then email me and we can discuss about what to do!!
I will be very thankfull!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 15:36:25
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Any of you fine blokes that might be heading to FW Open Day want to be a shopping ninja for me and pick one up? I'll paypal you the funds!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 16:43:20
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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wait two "X"'s on their banner.......  they must have two primarchs  how have we been so blind
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:00:02
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas
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10000pts - Sisters Venatores
2500pts - Imbros Irregulars
- 3000pts
Alpha Legion (HH era) - 7000pts finished
Army of Mousillon - Bretonnian Black Knight army - 3000pts (66% painted)
Host of Xblanque - Lizardmen Army - 7000pts (50% painted) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:18:01
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
Stockholm Forge District; Skandian Hive Collectives
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"-The Falchion uses a potent weapon which combines technologies fielded in the Fellblade and the Shadowsword super-heavy tank. The Falchion’s twin-mounted Volcano cannon is one of the most powerful vehicle-mounted, anti-tank weapons in the Imperium’s arsenal and it requires such an investment in resources to construct just a single example that its use is limited to the Legiones Astartes. Even then, the Falchion is so rare that most Legions maintain but a handful, reserved for use against the largest of enemy war machines.
The Falchion was developed long before the outbreak of the Horus Heresy and as such its prey was not the enemy Titans it would later see such extensive combat against. As the Great Crusade expanded ever outward, the Expeditionary fleets encountered a staggering array of foes, some of whom were of a truly gargantuan scale, but all were set to ravening flame by the touch of the Falchion’s Volcano cannon."
"-In a galaxy where conflict is commonplace, Imperial architecture is often by necessity fortified against possible attack. Should the Alien, the Traitor or the Heretic attempt to assault an Imperial world, more often than not it is the great cities of humanity that become battlegrounds. Large industrial facilities are transformed into key objectives, with generatorum nexus' becoming vital sources of power and manufactorum sectors providing much-needed supplies or raw materials.
Forge World scenery designer Blake Spence has created two new modular Realm of Battle Cityscape tiles. Each is light weight and durable thanks to the hollow resin method we use, and each tile measures 2' x 2' (610 mm x 610 mm).
A limited quantity of both the Realm of Battle Generatorum Nexus tile and the Realm of Battle Manufactorum Sector tile will be available to purchase at the Forge World Open Day this Sunday. Both tiles will go on general release in the next few weeks."
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I have a little hobby-thread going in the P&M section. Some say it's the best blog on Dakka, some don't agree, most belive it would be better if I finished at least one project some time this century and not just kept starting new ones.
Check it out, you just might like it.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/385168.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:19:14
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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[DCM]
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Theophony wrote:
wait two "X"'s on their banner.......  they must have two primarchs  how have we been so blind
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Try harder next time.
I wonder how hard it is going to be to get this "limited edition', because it certainly seems as it demand is going to be high.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:35:06
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Yes! I guessed they'd reuse the Falchion name, and it looks excellent. I would assume the Stormblade will then be its derivative.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:52:55
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Cityfight boards are... okay. Tank is okay too.
Maybe we're just too used to blow-your-socks-off awesomeness?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 18:37:09
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p36 HH book 3 video.
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So Twin-linked Volcano Cannon and two sets of Quad-lascannons. Pretty sweet.  Or Is it two separate Volcano Cannons?
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