Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**Looky Likey**

You do realise that would have meant anybody who brought even one of the first two books would have been ripped off big time? Each of the main books costs £70 each, the limited set is available for £145, meaning you would get one main book for free and the slipcase with the extras for £5. £70 * 3 = £210 + whatever they end up selling the slip case and extra books for.

**Zuul**

chaos0xomega wrote:
After realizing that it doesn't actually include the first two books in the series, I decided I didn't want it anymore

They got that too.

**warboss**

I like that vanguard sword and hadn't seen it before since I haven't bothered looking much at new GW sprues for a couple years now.

**Sasori**

I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

**Zuul**

Sasori wrote:
I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

The experimental rules are up on PDF, and I figure the hard copy will be in the upcoming HH book.

**MajorStoffer**

Sasori wrote:
I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

Sicaran base states with a Neutron Pulse Laser as the primary weapon, which is a bit funky, first introduced with the Valdor tank Hunter:

St 10 Ap1 Ordnance D3, on any pen result, inflicts crew shaken on top of the rolled result, but if it doesn't pen, you take a glance from the massive feedback on the gun.

Hmm, apparently Ordnance 2 now; they keep changing how many shots it gets.

**Zuul**

MajorStoffer wrote:
Sasori wrote:
I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

Sicaran base states with a Neutron Pulse Laser as the primary weapon, which is a bit funky, first introduced with the Valdor tank Hunter:

St 10 Ap1 Ordnance D3, on any pen result, inflicts crew shaken on top of the rolled result, but if it doesn't pen, you take a glance from the massive feedback on the gun.

Hmm, apparently Ordnance 2 now; they keep changing how many shots it gets.

Actually there isn't feedback on the venator's neutron beam laser. It says Archmagos Jun Hadyxis found a way to prevent it in the scaled down design made for the tank.

**MajorStoffer**

Zuul wrote:
MajorStoffer wrote:
Sasori wrote:
I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

Sicaran base states with a Neutron Pulse Laser as the primary weapon, which is a bit funky, first introduced with the Valdor tank Hunter:

St 10 Ap1 Ordnance D3, on any pen result, inflicts crew shaken on top of the rolled result, but if it doesn't pen, you take a glance from the massive feedback on the gun.

Hmm, apparently Ordnance 2 now; they keep changing how many shots it gets.

Actually there isn't feedback on the venator's neutron beam laser. It says Archmagos Jun Hadyxis found a way to prevent it in the scaled down design made for the tank.

Well isn't he a jerk for not applying that to the Valdor.

**Theophony**

MajorStoffer wrote:
Zuul wrote:
MajorStoffer wrote:
Sasori wrote:
I'm a lot more excited about IA13...

In a dreadful sort of way.

I've been able to keep away from a lot of the Forgeworld Legion stuff, because I don't play/plan to play 30k. If a lot of this all of sudden becomes legal for Chaos, it's going to open the Floodgates.

I really think the Glaive is one of the coolest tanks around. Then you've got the Sicaran, which can help against pesky Serpents... Fire Raptors... and moar...

By the Way, what was the rules for the Sicaren Venator? I don't remember seeing them.

Sicaran base states with a Neutron Pulse Laser as the primary weapon, which is a bit funky, first introduced with the Valdor tank Hunter:

St 10 Ap1 Ordnance D3, on any pen result, inflicts crew shaken on top of the rolled result, but if it doesn't pen, you take a glance from the massive feedback on the gun.

Hmm, apparently Ordnance 2 now; they keep changing how many shots it gets.

Actually there isn't feedback on the venator's neutron beam laser. It says Archmagos Jun Hadyxis found a way to prevent it in the scaled down design made for the tank.

Well isn't he a jerk for not applying that to the Valdor.

Even in 30k its all about the space marines

**Sasori**

Thanks for the stats fellas!

190 seems a bit steep for it, it's still an awesome model though.

**Commander_Farsight**

Hey so what do you think about the Fire Raptor? I played a game with my Tau against some Iron Hands yesterday, and my opponent pulled the bad as looking model out. At first I was really worried, but I found that it wasn't THAT bad. I thought that for a gunboat its rules were fairly well written, except for maybe being under-priced by 50 points it was fine. So what do you think about it community?

**Enigma Crisis**

I haven't actually seen the rules for it but I really enjoy the look of the Fire Raptor.

**Kroothawk**

This will become a quiet decade for people not playing Space Marines

**deleted20250424**

Well, after going back and forth over the day, I put in an order for the LE box.

Here's hoping I don't get an Email on Monday saying I missed the boat.

Of course now I'm thinking I need to do this at least 3-4 more times to get the next sets of 3.

**haroon**

I don't understand why this isnt sold out yet. This is 1000 times cooler then then void shield.

**Sasori**

Kroothawk wrote:
This will become a quiet decade for people not playing Space Marines

We have the Nid update coming.

And IA13 will at least be Chaos Space Marines!

**Slayer le boucher**

IA 13 is the next Imperial Armour book, and we are getting some information as to what it is called, and its contents. IA 13 will be called War Machines of the Lost and the Damned and will be coming this summer/fall. In it wil be updated or new Chaos Renegades, and lots of Chaos Vehicles.

The art book was on display at the open day and had pictures of a Chaos Thunderhawk, Chaos Stormeagle and the Anvilluss pattern and Kharybdis assault claw.

This sounds great, as adding more options for Chaos is always welcome.

Please remember that this is a rumor, and is a report from pushkin on what he saw at the Forgeworld Open Day

via Pushkin over on Warseer
I posted quite a lot of this in the Forgeworld open day, but I went through the notes i made and had missed out a few things and i thought it would be good to get its own thread.
IA13 is called War Machines of the Lost and the Damned. It is written by Andy Hoare and edited by Talima Fox.

It will be released in Summer/Autumn 2014.

The book will contain an updated Chaos Renegades list similar to the one found in the Vraks trilogy, along with numerous chaos vehicles/war machines including updated versions of the Horus Heresy vehicles for the traitors to use in regular games of 40k. It's unclear whether this will be a variant of the 'Defenders of Vraks' list in IA1, the servants of slaughter list in IA6 or the servants of decay list in IA7. I imagine it will be a reworked version of all three. (i.e. quite chaosy but without the campaign specific units like the Alpha Legion). Talima described the list as being the renegade version of what the list in IA12 was for the Death Korps of Krieg - make of that what you will!

The art book was on display at the open day and had pictures of a Chaos Thunderhawk, Chaos Stormeagle and the Anvilluss pattern and Kharybdis assault claw.
Speaking to Andy Hoare he mentioned the rules for the Horus heresy era war machines would be updated to reflect the ten thousands years that they had spent in the warp and the access to munitions that the chaos legions had. He gave two examples, the first being the missile load out on the Storm Eagle, instead of the tempest rockets load out it will have access to Balefire missiles.

The second example was the class M2KB Landraider. Instead of the explorator augatory web which is designed for scanning enemy positions and co-ordinating forces, however due to the corruption of the warp this is now used to intercept enemy positions and thwart their movements. It will be interesting to see the rules for this.The greater brass scorpion of Khorne and the decimator engine also had new renders on screen in the graphics part, which suggests that updated rules for these models.

It's also worth noting that HH3: Extermination contains references to Iron Warrior specific siege tanks used during the battle of Paramar and the dark mechanicum using stalk tank like units to hunt the raven guard survivors on Istavaan, so it will be interesting to see whether these units crop up in either future HH books or IA13.
I am speaking to my friend who was also chatting to lots of the designers about this and many other things, so ill ask him if i've missed anything!

Afterthought - i'm not 100% sure that the name is correct, reading Vraks again all the lists refer to Renegades and heretics, but the start of the title was definitely "war machines of the".

**Tannhauser42**

haroon wrote:
I don't understand why this isnt sold out yet. This is 1000 times cooler then then void shield.

I can kind of understand it. The only people who are really going to want it are probably those who actually play 30K and want the legion books in it. Or those who want the art book.
And Forgeworld still doesn't haven't the following and exposure that the rest of GW has, so a lot of the possible audience may not even know about it.

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

I've ordered mine, so much money spent at forgeworld lately.

**Lockark**

I noticed that in the limited edition description it only says the art book is aviable threw the collectior's edition. It seems to imply the FW might the other two books outside of the collection.

Also it probly didn't sell out right away because it's like $250+

**Theophony**

Plus shipping

**Tannhauser42**

Lockark wrote:

Also it probly didn't sell out right away because it's like $250+

*cough, cough*

At least this one genuinely has something to show for its limited edition-ness. Remember all those fancy limited edition Space Marine Codices that only had a fancy cover to justify being so much more expensive.

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

It has to be said the quality of the first two HH books was amazing plus you could crush small children with them.

**Lockark**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
Lockark wrote:

Also it probly didn't sell out right away because it's like $250+

*cough, cough*

At least this one genuinely has something to show for its limited edition-ness. Remember all those fancy limited edition Space Marine Codices that only had a fancy cover to justify being so much more expensive.

Well Ef' me

**deleted20250424**

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
It has to be said the quality of the first two HH books was amazing plus you could crush small children with them.

It's true.

Whenever I'm looking for high quality material to pin my kids to the floor with, I sit my HH books on them and watch them struggle like a turtle on it's back.

**Baragash**

Out of Stock now....

**Zuul**

Well, the limited edition isstvan sold out finally. It took a whole 2 days!

**Azazelx**

If only I didn't have a pile of real-life bills to take care of before they suddenly became available. Missed this one, sadly.

**marv335**

I'm really looking forward to getting mine.

To be honest, I'm in it for the Primarchs.

**Darth Bob**

Have we gotten any word on what the next Primarch/character model is going to be? The Alpha Legion fanboy in me wants Alpharius/Omegon but the "I-really-want-to-see-what-they-do" in me would like to see Vulkan or Mortarion.