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Do we really need a whole book on how evil and nasty the evil and nasty Legions are?
Agreed... other than the solar auxila it doesn't list anything that hasn't been covered before to some degree.
I think the main point of this book is to create a Campaign system for generic "Battles of the Heresy", for all the isolated wars and fights across the Galaxy, rather than focussing on any one big event.
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
I think the new book sounds awesome: campaign system, relics, Solar Auxilia, more Knights, Dark Mechanicus, oh my!
And now I really want an undead mechanical Ferrus.
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One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
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Do we really need a whole book on how evil and nasty the evil and nasty Legions are?
Agreed... other than the solar auxila it doesn't list anything that hasn't been covered before to some degree.
I think the main point of this book is to create a Campaign system for generic "Battles of the Heresy", for all the isolated wars and fights across the Galaxy, rather than focussing on any one big event.
So the legions so far completely untouched by FW didn't participate in any isolated fights and wars across the galaxy during the Heresy? My point is that those players will be waiting likely 1-3 years before getting covered and FW is basically recovering the units that they just covered instead. I just don't think that is a good idea but YMMV.
There was so much packed into the Weekender that one bulletin could hardly do it justice. If you missed it, make sure you take a look at last week's bulletin. Here’s a few more of my favourite moments...
Our awesome new hoodies, t-shirts, bags and Event Only models proved incredibly popular,
as well as Mortarion, Primarch of the Death Guard!
The tables in the gaming hall were full all weekend as the events of
the Conquest of Manachea campaign unfolded.
There were more new Horus Heresy models revealed than I can possibly fit into the space I’m allowed for the Forge World Bulletin, many of them still in their early stages of design. I wanted to show you just one more of my favourites, though, that are being worked on right now, the warp-twisted Gal Vorbak of the Word Bearers Legion.
Those who attended the event were lucky enough to get the first look at the notorious Gal Vorbak.
There were some fantastic entries to our painting competition, more of which you can see here, but there could only be one winner. Collecting the Forge World Painting award this year was Drake Seta, with his expertly painted Sicaran Battle Tank.
Drake Seta’s winning Sicaran Battle Tank
If you missed out on The Horus Heresy Weekender Forge World will be attending the 40K Open Day at Warhammer World on July 20th 2014. If you would like to join us for this event, tickets can be purchased here. Don’t leave it too late, get yours as soon as you can.
That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.
Chris.
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Do we really need a whole book on how evil and nasty the evil and nasty Legions are?
Agreed... other than the solar auxila it doesn't list anything that hasn't been covered before to some degree.
I think the main point of this book is to create a Campaign system for generic "Battles of the Heresy", for all the isolated wars and fights across the Galaxy, rather than focussing on any one big event.
So the legions so far completely untouched by FW didn't participate in any isolated fights and wars across the galaxy during the Heresy? My point is that those players will be waiting likely 1-3 years before getting covered and FW is basically recovering the units that they just covered instead. I just don't think that is a good idea but YMMV.
The next couple books cover this portion of the war and I could see them using the multiple books to build upto the full involvement of the remaining marine legions, with the full involvement coming towards the end of this portion of the war.
Remember it's only been 7 years in the timeline in a setting where it can take decades to get from one place to another, it can take as much time to send a message, in a setting where some wars have waged for centuries. 7 years in isn't that much time. Would it be "super great" if FW got to the other legions' involvement?-yes, but this whole thing is meant to be more (sci-fi) historical by nature... Imagine a WWI game setting and being frustrated that America isn't involved sooner. I give them credit for sticking to their guns and continuing the historic approach.
I agree on the intent of this book is to build the campaign rules more, this will make the book essential for playing 30k games long after FW has completed the HH series.
The other thing I think is important is this book gives FW the time to catch up on some of units and characters that still need models and the time to get started on these ordinatus and larger weapons that were mentioned as coming later. Maybe from one perspective it's causing this book to suffer, but I think this book will make the set stronger.
The next couple books cover this portion of the war and I could see them using the multiple books to build upto the full involvement of the remaining marine legions, with the full involvement coming towards the end of this portion of the war.
Remember it's only been 7 years in the timeline in a setting where it can take decades to get from one place to another, it can take as much time to send a message, in a setting where some wars have waged for centuries. 7 years in isn't that much time. Would it be "super great" if FW got to the other legions' involvement?-yes, but this whole thing is meant to be more (sci-fi) historical by nature... Imagine a WWI game setting and being frustrated that America isn't involved sooner. I give them credit for sticking to their guns and continuing the historic approach.
I agree on the intent of this book is to build the campaign rules more, this will make the book essential for playing 30k games long after FW has completed the HH series.
The other thing I think is important is this book gives FW the time to catch up on some of units and characters that still need models and the time to get started on these ordinatus and larger weapons that were mentioned as coming later. Maybe from one perspective it's causing this book to suffer, but I think this book will make the set stronger.
I think this is the point; make a good generic Heresy-era campaign book (think about how utilitarian the campaign in the Badab War is, for instance), and more importantly, catch up on models.
There's still characters from Book 1 without models, and the Iron Warriors, Imperial Fists and Alpha Legion don't have a single model yet.
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The campaign rules are the most exciting thing for me. As time goes on, I can see them expanding the character building aspect to both loyalist and traitor. If that happens, then I hope we start heading towards realm of chaos esque rules for chaos champions. That would be really exciting!
Yeah thats new, none of the miniatures in it are new but the catagory is recently added.
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wow, those Alpha Legion Rhino bits are sexy...
very nice, after the less than stellar shoulder pads in the last preview...
i've yet to paint an Alpha Legion Marine, but i daydream about how to create the awesome purple-blue-green fade, and some cool subtle scales, on the armor...
i am loving all the 30K minis, and the books are amazing...
Book 4 is like, the Filler book. From what I can tell, it logically makes sense that it happens, but it's the kinda thing most people would just skip over so they can get to the major climax battles instead of all those battles that took place in-between.
(TC: we have to say, Ferrus is DEAD… AB: they did kibosh my idea for an undead mechanical Ferrus… TC: no, not his twin brother either)
Since I already painted some HHDG I also ordered Mortarion, received him this week.
The model is far better as expected, IMO the below par paintjob is NOT helping the model ...
Good to hear, I'm considering between DG and Salamanders, the Vulkan model really sells it for me though.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
The Cerastus Knight-Lancer is a first strike weapon, attuned to rapid assault tactics and lethal outflanking charges against a foe. It is justly renowned for its speed and its power, as well as for the temperamental and restive nature of the machine-spirits which dwell as anima within its colossal frame.
Because of this reputation, the most impetuous and glory-hungry of the Knight Households are driven to bond with these war machines, their own souls a match for the fury caged within their mounts. The greatest of these pairings will go on to create martial legends among their lineage, while for those whose temper cannot fully master that of their Knight-engine or whose own lust for glory might see valour outweigh caution on the battlefield, their triumphs are likely to blaze brightly, if briefly, in the chronicles of their Households.
The Cerastus Knight-Lancer is a complete multi-part resin kit, designed by Daren Parrwood. The rules for the Cerastus Knight-Lancer can be found in The Horus Heresy Book Three - Extermination. Rules for using the Knight-Lancer in games of Warhammer 40,000 can be found here.
You can also see Daren talking about the making of the Knight-Lancer on our visual feed.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I really enjoyed it, and the finished article is something I rank amongst my best work.
Yesterday, I completed an order for another two, because I have some really good idea for paint schemes, and that would allow me to actually field them as an army once in a while.
FW today release provisional rules for this Knight in 40K.
I have begun budgeting to purchase one in the next couple of months.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
Mike Mee wrote: I have to admit, those Gal Vorbak look cool as hell!
They look amazing! The final push I needed to sell my soul to the Heresy line of minis.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
I think "It's nice, but not <value> <currency of choice> nice" can be applied to every FW modell in existence. Except for the contemptor chainfist they did recently. That one sucked.
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The Cerastus Knight's rules are quite nice. Striking at I5 with a D weapon lance is pretty mean and I would love to pair one with an Errant to charge into enemy ranks, but I have no interest in dealing with the potential modeling issues an all resin Knight could generate. Forget the price, the potential warpage on all those resin parts sends a cold shiver down my spine.
Bobthehero wrote: Yeah there's a lot of long and thing resin pieces, can't be good.
Yeah that could be a tough build. On that subject has anyone built a Spartan? How was that kit for Warping etc?
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
Made me grin.
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