Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**Peregrine**

Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

**Lockark**

Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping that they'll be add on kits to the existing plastic Knight...

Thats the same body as the knight lancer.

**Wilson**

for a 50 point character, that navigator is an absolute god!

**Alpharius**

Lockark wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping that they'll be add on kits to the existing plastic Knight...

Thats the same body as the knight lancer.

Live in hope, die in vain!

**WrentheFaceless**

Bell of lost souls has some more pictures up, Looks like a normal sword, a double chain sword, and a vulcan mega bolter arm

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/06/forgeworld-new-imperial-knight-unveiled.html

**Alpharius**

You had me at "Vulcan Mega-Bolter"!

Nice find - I love the look of this variant...

**Tannhauser42**

Those are some nifty rules for the navigator. Glad I've already got my own model for him.

Looking at those pictures, it could be a twin-linked Avenger Bolt Cannon instead of a Vulcan.

**aka_mythos**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
Bell of lost souls has some more pictures up, Looks like a normal sword, a double chain sword, and a vulcan mega bolter arm

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/06/forgeworld-new-imperial-knight-unveiled.html

The "double chainsword" is a chainfist according to them.

I just wish there was some way to know how it'll fit into a Knight army. If they have 3 different lancers, and eventually Baron and warden, castellan, crusader but all count as Lords of War it'll mean we're forced into apocalypse or 30k games to get the full rightful list of units we should have.

**Ashiraya**

Peregrine wrote:
Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

FW is so much better than GW in every way except model price.

Even then the prices are not beyond my reach.

**angelofvengeance**

Ashiraya wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

FW is so much better than GW in every way except model price.

Even then the prices are not beyond my reach.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/contemptor-chainfist.jpg

Really?? lol

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Is it just me or does it feel like FW have slowed down their release rate?

**whalemusic360**

I think the show season was pushing them a little bit to have some sweet pre-release for each one. Now that it is mostly over they can resume normal speed.

**Accolade**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

FW is so much better than GW in every way except model price.

Even then the prices are not beyond my reach.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/contemptor-chainfist.jpg

Really?? lol

Ugh, that arm. It is bad even for someone who just learned converting!

That being said, *most* of what FW produces is excellent, and can even be cheaper on the bizarre occasion. Take the FW Big Gunz:

Individually, they're $17 cheaper than the new Mekgunz. I mean, yes, they don't include the extra bits, but I'd say the model quality is stellar and if you can get them for 50% less than the GW variant? Hoo-boy

**Kosake**

Lockark wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
I'm hoping that they'll be add on kits to the existing plastic Knight...

Thats the same body as the knight lancer.

Didn't they say in bulletin 18 or so that now they have a body, they can start develop variations? What did you expect, a whole new chassis?

**Accolade**

I must admit, I really do like the body variant of the Knight that FW employs, even if it seems a bit tall.

$285 is a steep price to handle to pick one up, I'll have to do some serious soul-searching if I end up picking up one (or two) of these.

**Ashiraya**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

FW is so much better than GW in every way except model price.

Even then the prices are not beyond my reach.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/contemptor-chainfist.jpg

Really?? lol

Yes, you found one inferior kit.

So what?

The average is still better design.

**Yodhrin**

STC_LogisEngine wrote:
I think they had this long thing posted somewhere on how they started out trying to make upgrades to the plastic kit but abandoned that path because they ran into a crapload of unforseen problems. Weight and overbalancing issues being a big one appearantly since the plastic kit is something of a lightweight. If I recall correctly they where going to revisit resin upgrades for the plastic knight once they got the Cerastus-pattern category and the Warden-types (again, completely different chassis = full resin model) finished for production so it is probably quite a few months out.

I really like this other Cerastus-pattern knight, it looks like it has the same flamer as the Malcador Infernus, and the Inferno Gun is quite nasty. (Hellstrom, s7 ap3, heav1 primary) so it can be quite deadly to most things that comes too close, especially in dense terrain or if there is a lot of fortifications. the Hellstrom template is oh so useful for flushing fortifications clear of infantry.
The one who will be comming along after this one looks cooler though, it's hard to compete with a dual-gatling boltcannon when it comes to looks.

If that's what FW actually said, what a load of nonsense. For a plastic kit the Knight is hefty, and when fixed to the base either with glue or magnets it's extremely stable; its height and the base's width are pretty much equivalent, you would have to work hard to pose it in a way that it would be unstable. The FW Knight, by contrast, uses the same base as the plastic Knight, but is substantially taller and, being resin, probably noticeably more top-heavy as well. If FW really are delaying making upgrades for the plastic kit, it has knob-all to do with "unforseen problems" and everything to do with wanting to sell lots of Cerastus-pattern chassis to people. I'd say sod-it and just buy Cerastus arms to convert the plastic Knight, but if the objective is to sell the resin chassis they may end up offering different sub-patterns of Cerastus as whole kits rather than selling the arms separately. We'll have to see.

**Lockark**

Yodhrin wrote:

If that's what FW actually said, what a load of nonsense. For a plastic kit the Knight is hefty, and when fixed to the base either with glue or magnets it's extremely stable; its height and the base's width are pretty much equivalent, you would have to work hard to pose it in a way that it would be unstable. The FW Knight, by contrast, uses the same base as the plastic Knight, but is substantially taller and, being resin, probably noticeably more top-heavy as well. If FW really are delaying making upgrades for the plastic kit, it has knob-all to do with "unforseen problems" and everything to do with wanting to sell lots of Cerastus-pattern chassis to people. I'd say sod-it and just buy Cerastus arms to convert the plastic Knight, but if the objective is to sell the resin chassis they may end up offering different sub-patterns of Cerastus as whole kits rather than selling the arms separately. We'll have to see.

I assume when FW they realse new options for the plastic knights, will be give diffrent weapon options and rules then what the Cerastus pattrens can take. The Cerastus pattren arms also look larger then the weapon arms that the plastic knight use.

Thow on the other hand, the Cerastus pattren is so large, it's bassicly the same size as the deamforge 28mm leviathan. The Cerastus rules/scale of modle we be a bunch better fit then the warhound rules people keep wanting to shoe horn it with. Once we get better scale shots of the Cerastus I'm tempted to use the Leviathan Mortis for my tratior house.
XD

edit: bassicly the exact same height, just fatter.

Spoiler:

**Kosake**

Ashiraya wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Summary of the navigator's rules: "GW, your new psychic phase is stupid and we're not going to use it."

FW is so much better than GW in every way except model price.

Even then the prices are not beyond my reach.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/contemptor-chainfist.jpg

Really?? lol

Yes, you found one inferior kit.

So what?

The average is still better design.

Actually, besides the chainfist and the Alpha Legion shoulder pads which are really sub-par with any other in their range, I know no other bad example of FW models. That's two in a range that spans 30k, tons of 40k and lots of fantasy too.

**Alpharius**

Forgeworld is now accepting PayPal!

(Apologies is this is old news, but it was news to me!)

Now hurry up Black Library!

**H.B.M.C.**

Alpharius wrote:
Forgeworld is now accepting PayPal!

(Apologies is this is old news, but it was news to me!)

Now hurry up Black Library!

BL will continue it's slide into GW-ness, whereas Forge World will (excuse the pun) forge ahead to the world where adults run companies like companies that understand their audience.

But Pay-Pal is nice, I guess.

**d-usa**

Alpharius wrote:
Forgeworld is now accepting PayPal!

Hell, the inconvenience of them not accepting PayPal has been one of the biggest reasons why I often ended up not ordering anything after browsing the website.

Curse you ForgeWorld!

**BrookM**

About fething time they started using PayPal!

**whalemusic360**

Thank god, that was the hardest part of ordering.

**Tannhauser42**

PayPal? Great, one step closer to direct depositing my paycheck into Forgeworld's account.

Better than having to call my bank to approve the charge on my credit card every time.

**Alpharius**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
PayPal? Great, one step closer to direct depositing my paycheck into Forgeworld's account.

Better than having to call my back to approve the charge on my credit card every time.

Exactly!

On both counts!

**Hulksmash**

Thank goodness. I can now order the books without waiting for massive group orders. Yay me!

**shade1313**

Alpharius wrote:
Forgeworld is now accepting PayPal!

(Apologies is this is old news, but it was news to me!)

Now hurry up Black Library!

It's fully live now? A few weeks back, I saw that, and used it...turned out they were just still experimenting with it, and someone had accidentally left it visible and clickable when I was checking out...I had to phone them up to get my stuff, since it only half worked at the time.

It IS nice, for me, since my debit card company freaks out and shuts down bigger transactions to overseas companies. Paypal gets me around that annoyance.

**Shandara**

Alpharius wrote:
Forgeworld is now accepting PayPal!

(Apologies is this is old news, but it was news to me!)

Now hurry up Black Library!

This is great news!

(for real)

**Squidbot**

The email announcing this was extremely disappointing, as it hinted at new Orks, There were none,.