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shade1313 wrote:

timd wrote:
And they are all left handed?

Sadly, it appears so.

I'm not sure if the hand they are holding their shields in means they have to be left-handed. The Firedrakes, from their Forge World description, are said to value resilience and endurance, so therefore it would make sense for them to favour their defensive equipment in their stronger hand, as opposed to their offensive weapon, so that they may be more resilient warriors.

Haighus wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

timd wrote:
And they are all left handed?

Sadly, it appears so.

I'm not sure if the hand they are holding their shields in means they have to be left-handed. The Firedrakes, from their Forge World description, are said to value resilience and endurance, so therefore it would make sense for them to favour their defensive equipment in their stronger hand, as opposed to their offensive weapon, so that they may be more resilient warriors.

Still visually a downside for me.

Again i think the models look better without paint. We're going to see so many smarter paint jobs down the road.

shade1313 wrote:

Haighus wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

timd wrote:
And they are all left handed?

Sadly, it appears so.

I'm not sure if the hand they are holding their shields in means they have to be left-handed. The Firedrakes, from their Forge World description, are said to value resilience and endurance, so therefore it would make sense for them to favour their defensive equipment in their stronger hand, as opposed to their offensive weapon, so that they may be more resilient warriors.

Still visually a downside for me.

Fair enough.

Just realised there is probably another reason for their "left-handed"ness. All of the Cataphractii weapon packs have only left-handed CCWs, to complement the bolters, and the shield replaces the combi-bolter, so having right handed shields means the ccw can be swapped out for any of the Cataphractii weapons.

 STC_LogisEngine wrote:
I guess they are ok, but then again I have never liked the Salamanders, nor their iconagraphy to any great degree. I suspect it's the idea to paint flames everywhere that puts me off, also, the idea to combine an intense green with orange and red? It's fething murder to the senses, learn to combine colours for feth's sake!

I actually think it can look really good in some cases.



Personally I don't like the Firedrakes paint job because they're not bright enough. Like most FW Space Marines they look too dirty and bland, not like what I imagine when I think of medieval-style heraldry and colors. Might as well paint them all brown and gray, really.

Haighus wrote:


Just realised there is probably another reason for their "left-handed"ness. All of the Cataphractii weapon packs have only left-handed CCWs, to complement the bolters, and the shield replaces the combi-bolter, so having right handed shields means the ccw can be swapped out for any of the Cataphractii weapons.

That's probably the case, but its still pretty sinister...

I think it's the paint job that's killing the Fire Drakes. They look fine in raw resin. Giving them dark heads to match Salamander skin complexion was an odd choice.

Too much texturing, in my opinion. If I got 'em, I'd probably mix and match with regular terminators to spread out the over-detailing.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_25.html

I've got to wait till September?!

Damn it :(!


On the other hand... The Hive are finally getting a Tyranid Book !

 Bloodhorror wrote:
I've got to wait till September?!

Damn it :(!


On the other hand... The Hive are finally getting a Tyranid Book !

Nooooo that's the date of the Amsterdam open day - which I'm really tempted to go to! Amsterdam is an awesome city.

I think this book will release around August time! At least I bloody hope it does!

Well now, I wonder how fethed up the ass the Elysian list is this time round in terms of points and other stuff.

Who am I kidding, looks like I finally found an excuse to attend the upcoming event. I've always loved IA4 and the D-99 list, it's what made me buy Elysians in the first place.

Tuesday 14th of January, 2014

FORGE WORLD BULLETIN 25

The Forge World Studio has been gearing up for our summer events. This weekend we'll be at both the Warhammer 40,000 Open Day and the Manchester MCM Comic Con. For those of you in the US, Gen Con 2014 is just around the corner and the first Forge World European Open Day is being held in Amsterdam in September, more news on that soon!

With all these events coming up, I wanted to show you one of the new releases that we'll have at the shows - Imperial Armour Volume 4 – Second Edition: The Anphelion Project. I managed to get a few minutes alone with an advance copy and it’s not only Tyranids which are featured, the Elysian Detachment D-99, the Red Scorpions and the Anphelion Project campaign are all fully updated too.

Reading up on placing pre-orders for events, they want you to call it all in these days? What the hell, back then you could just mail them a list of the stuff you wanted..

Maybe we'll finally see the Elysian Stormtroopers.


I wonder if they'll expand the scope of the conflict beyond the first book? Perhaps have a section that explores what happens after contact was lost.

I gotto say, I wasn't a fan of the Lancer as imagined by Forge World, but seeing it with this paint job changes my tune:

 BrookM wrote:
Well now, I wonder how fethed up the ass the Elysian list is this time round in terms of points and other stuff.

It's Forge World. They make pretty books with terrible rules. We all know that by now.

I like that pic HBMC- kinda says "Strike a pose!"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's Forge World. They make pretty books with terrible rules. We all know that by now.

I'll be happy enough to have Elysian rules that are both 7th edition and more in line with the new Astra Blah-blah army list. Having witches tell me to use the "updated" list from IA3 isn't funny anymore, especially after the new Astra Blah-blah codex hit with improved costs on a lot of stuff.


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 Medium of Death wrote:
Maybe we'll finally see the Elysian Stormtroopers.

Spoiler:

I wonder if they'll expand the scope of the conflict beyond the first book? Perhaps have a section that explores what happens after contact was lost.

I personally hope not, these veterans look nothing like regular Elysians.

The book is more Codex Red Scorpions than anything else, I saw the going to print copy at the Forge World open day, which I imagine probably got held and edited for 7th. But you can expect a new iteration of Commander Culns rules, now making him playable as Veteran Sgt, Captain and Commander.

Red Scorpion relics, mostly the swords that are mentioned.

A new Red Scorpion character dreadnought, but no model, it is intended to use the chaplain dreadnaught.

All the other Red Scorpion rules, warlord traits, chapter tactics etc rolled into one place.

The D-99 will just have an updated army list.

Nids get a new model, updated rules for mioetic spores, stone crushers (who will be awesome), points drops on the Malonthrope, with a new challenge mechanic and moved to elites. The rules for the chimneys and digestion pools have been removed.

I wonder.. Will Elysian sergeants be allowed to carry regular lasguns again or will they force the horrible laspistol and ccw combo upon us again.

Guys did anyone notice that the Knight behind the Cerastus on the right seems to have a power fist instead of a chainsword... ?

IA4 Sounds slightly disappointing. I hope there is more to it than what has been seen at the open day.

 Armorum Ferrum wrote:
Guys did anyone notice that the Knight behind the Cerastus on the right seems to have a power fist instead of a chainsword... ?

Well spotted!

I hope they re-release the terrain from the book.

 HungryTaz wrote:
I hope they re-release the terrain from the book.

I asked the author about it and he said there just wasn't a demand for it.

Eldercaveman wrote:

 HungryTaz wrote:
I hope they re-release the terrain from the book.

I asked the author about it and he said there just wasn't a demand for it.

That is unfortunate. It was pretty cool terrain. I always wanted one of the landing pads and the eBay prices are nuts. Still, I will enjoy updates for my nids!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I gotto say, I wasn't a fan of the Lancer as imagined by Forge World, but seeing it with this paint job changes my tune:

Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed from the previous pics that it was so much taller than the regular knights.

 warboss wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I gotto say, I wasn't a fan of the Lancer as imagined by Forge World, but seeing it with this paint job changes my tune:

Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed from the previous pics that it was so much taller than the regular knights.

Does anyone else feel like it's the supermodel of Knights, and the others are in the background saying 'Real Knights have curves?'

Has that games workshop/40k "Expansion" thing always been at the bottom corner?

 HungryTaz wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

 HungryTaz wrote:
I hope they re-release the terrain from the book.

I asked the author about it and he said there just wasn't a demand for it.

That is unfortunate. It was pretty cool terrain. I always wanted one of the landing pads and the eBay prices are nuts. Still, I will enjoy updates for my nids!

The stonecrusher will be a beast, it has a 3+ instead of 2+ now but every roll to wound, suffers a -3 or -2 (can't remember which) . So a 2+ to wound would only ever wound on a 4+.

It is times like this that I remember just how small the Imperial Knight is - it is still surprising to me though!

When I saw a picture of the Knight next to the Stompa...wow!