Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread

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**Thraxas Of Turai**

Warhams-77 wrote:

A lot of painted Concord miniatures were shown in today's GoA blog post:

http://www.warlordgames.com/community-concord-colour-schemes/

Awww shucks, I am amongst that lot

, as is Judgedoug.

Must say that I am very impressed with the release schedule, lots of things coming in a very short time.

**Warhams-77**

No information atm, Bob, sorry. Or was it announced to traders already? Judgedoug?

**judgedoug**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

Awww shucks, I am amongst that lot , as is Judgedoug.

Must say that I am very impressed with the release schedule, lots of things coming in a very short time.

Aww gosh. WE FAMOUS.
Well I better finish painting them and post a much nicer pic somewhere then.
And get on the Ghar, cuz I'm sure they'll do that again shortly.

**Manchu**

judgedoug wrote:
And get on the Ghar, cuz I'm sure they'll do that again shortly.

Plan to have mine on the way for a game this Saturday!

**Albino Squirrel**

Concord C3 Drop Command Squad blister
Concord C3 Interceptor Squad Box

I suspect that "blister" means metal, and "box" means plastic.

**Nocturnus**

judgedoug wrote:
Updated with USD$ MSRP

NOVEMBER

Concord Combined Command Starter Army Box - mixed $80.00
Ghar Empire Starter Army Box - mixed $80.00

Transmat Pads $8.00
Kinectic Barriers $11.25
Kinectic Barricades $12.75
Orbital Transmat Station $20.00
Large Stanchion Building $24.00
Medium Stanchion Building $20.75
Small Stanchion Building $19.25

DECEMBER

Ghar Battle Squad Box - Plastic $32.00
Ghar Assault Squad Box - Plastic $32.00
Ghar Bomber Squad Box - Plastic $32.00
Ghar Outcast Squad Blister $32.00
Ghar Outcast command squad Blister $12.75
Ghar Flitters Blister $10.00

JANUARY

Concord C3 Drop Command Squad blister
Concord C3 Interceptor Squad Box
...more to be confirmed

MARCH

Isorians

APRIL

Algoryn

April for the Algoryns? /sadpanda

**judgedoug**

Remember, much of the Algoryn, Boromite, Freeborn units exist _now_, the upcoming months for them are the "fill in this particular faction's range some more" months

Personally I cannot wait so I'm ordering a ton of Agloryn this week

**Albino Squirrel**

Yeah, I'm more sad about the wait for Isorians, since they have nothing available. Though I was pretty disappointed with their representation in the rulebook, both the army list and background.

Their army list doesn't have a bunch of things that concord has, and in exchange I think they only have one (admittedly pretty cool) unique unit of their own.

Their general background is pretty cool, but they aren't mentioned at all in the section about the Xilos Horizon storyline, and appear to take no part in it. Boromites aren't mentioned either, but there could be some tagging along with the other factions, presumably.

Maybe we'll see some kind of campaign expansion kind of book that will flesh them out more, with a storyline that involves them more. Same for the Vorl, who are mentioned a lot but without much detail.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

Albino Squirrel wrote:
Concord C3 Drop Command Squad blister
Concord C3 Interceptor Squad Box

I suspect that "blister" means metal, and "box" means plastic.

Not necessarily, the likes of Bormomite/Algoryn etc metal squads are in boxes too. That said I think you are correct in assuming that they are metal and plastic respectively. The drop command squad is a 3 model squad (you can add a further two models) so a metal blister seems sensible as does plastic for the Interceptors.

@Judgedoug: I am in for the Algoryn too, will be nice to have some variety in squads once the plastics come out.

I have got some Ghar done, not that sure on the scheme:

Spoiler:

**Albino Squirrel**

I'm sure the entire Ghar outcast squad isn't in a single blister either, I'm sure they do come in a box. But in that list of things, it seemed like all the metal things said blister, and all the plastic said box. Even without that little corroboration, I think it's very likely the bikes are plastic.

**judgedoug**

No, things that are definitely plastic, are marked "plastic", as per the Ghar boxes.

Jetbikes I am 99% certain are metal, but do not quote me on that, as the only painted Jetbikes we've seen are painted 3D prints.

Remember, the initial product offering are all the models available during the beta. It is absolutely Warlord's intent to release as much stuff, and replace as much metal with, plastic, as soon as they are able to. All core Ghar battle suits are plastic - and they are new units that were previously unavailable in the Beta, and the Concord metal Strike teams have obviously just been "replaced" with the plastic Concord strike teams. This allows for several armies to be instantly playable, such as Algoryn - for people like me who can't wait, we can buy the metal figs - but also means that eventually Algoryn plastics will be available for those who want to wait. (Remember, Warlord is like 1/50th the size of GW; the fact they release so many plastic kits - nearly one per month - is pretty staggering already)

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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

@Judgedoug: I am in for the Algoryn too, will be nice to have some variety in squads once the plastics come out.

I have got some Ghar done, not that sure on the scheme:

Spoiler:

Yeah, I can't wait personally, wanna do Algoryn now (since I am also going to do Isorians, and that means I definitely have to wait for them).

Dude that looks great! I think mine will be a neutral grey with some sort of color highlight - maybe yellow. Should contrast with the silverish white/teal that I'm painting the Concord.

**Nocturnus**

judgedoug wrote:
Remember, much of the Algoryn, Boromite, Freeborn units exist _now_, the upcoming months for them are the "fill in this particular faction's range some more" months

Personally I cannot wait so I'm ordering a ton of Agloryn this week

But plastic.... :(

**judgedoug**

Nocturnus wrote:
But plastic.... :(

welll.....

judgedoug wrote:
re: plastics and metals. What's interesting is something I've noticed as I've gotten older - it's probably the evolving grognard in me - is that I dislike multipart plastics more and more. I love their cheapness, but I spend so much of my meager hobby time assembling figs that I'd rather be painting. Like, I speedpaint everything, so that usually means I wind up spending more time gluing figures than actually putting paint on them. As neat as the plastic Concord guys are, them being like 6 parts apiece is really offputting to me. I've become much more a fan of "file mold line, dab of glue on base, done". Obviously other people love their plastic kits to have as many bits as possible, and I totally understand that point of view. And some plastics are also great - Warlord's plastic Napoleonics are ideal to me, for instance, or WGF's WSS infantry (3 pieces!). Like right now I'm kind of torn waiting for plastic Algoryn basic infantry, but then I'm like, feth it, I have two base squads in metal already, and they're "glue on head, glue on base" simple, so I can get them painted right away. (Well, at least I know I'm not a TMP style grognard, because then I'd be discussing my favorite Humbrol enamel paint to use for the facings on Front Rank infantry...) The TL;DR version being that I'm nearing the tipping point where my time is more valuable than my money: preferring to spend more money to have a metal one or two piece figure than to have to assemble 6+ piece plastics (and matching up arms etc). One of the reasons I haven't assembled my like 100 plastic Enforcers yet...

So since I already have a couple of the basic AI squads in metal, and those are what'll probably be the first plastic Algoryn release, I am totes gonna buy one of each of the other available units.
(actually I just did, like a few minutes ago!)

**Pacific**

Looks good Thraxas. I'm going to paint mine in a similar style; a more industrial, dark look. Think it suits their background much more than the clean white look (I can't imagine them going in much for ostentation!)

**judgedoug**

Pacific wrote:
Looks good Thraxas. I'm going to paint mine in a similar style; a more industrial, dark look.

Industrial, dark look, eh?

Inspiration:

**Manchu**

I am really grateful that the Ghar suits are not metal. That would have been a no go for me. I don't mind the smaller metal figures.

**judgedoug**

On no doubt. My diatribe is meant to be for single normal sized figures.

I assembled a Nurgle Maggoth Lord last night and that would have been the worst metal kit ever, but instead it was a fantastic plastic kit and very enjoyable.

**RobertsMinis**

I wouldn't fancy the Ghar suits in metal either, but I have built one sprue of the Concord and while I like the models, I'm not looking forward to 3 more sprues.

**Momotaro**

Worth mentioning the metals in the boxed set - they're flawless castings.

I've had cause to complain about Warlord's historical metals in the past - the models needed so much cleaning up.

Fartok and the Concord guy are as sharp as Hasslefree figures, and I can't think of higher praise than that.

**Warhams-77**

The quality of the metal miniatures is great.

Warlord confirmed via email the individual and army boxes come with an order die for each unit.

No plastic jetbikes... :( I will buy one box and then decide if I'll buy more. But the amount of plastics they are going to release is astonishing indeed.

Talkwargaming has posted a painting tutorial for the Concord starter box scheme. I like the colours.

But those white armour schemes are tempting too

MatGC - Myevergrowingarmies blog

http://myevergrowingarmies.blogspot.de/2015/10/endeavoring-into-new-scifi-game-beyond.html

**judgedoug**

Warhams-77 wrote:
The quality of the metal miniatures is great.

Warlord confirmed via email the individual and army boxes come with an order die for each unit.

Hmm, that's the opposite of what I heard.

Doug Craig - Do the pre-order Concord and Ghar starter armies come with dice?
Warlord Games - Hello Doug they don't, there are no order dice in the Concord or Ghar starter armies. Following on from your thoughts and feedback that you posted on FB about order dice in the box sets and not in blisters we are taking the opportunity to review this. It was an idea we trialled during Beta and something that does need to be addressed.
Doug Craig - Thanks! I really think the branding should be unified - either every box/blister has an order die, or none.
Warlord Games - They are all coming out Doug we included them during Beta however as each box goes for a reprint they will be coming out.

[the last part is due to the fact that as of right now, box units come with an order die, but blister pack units do not. I pointed out that it is bad brand merchandising to have half of a customer's purchase be ready-to-play - I argued for either every pack to come with an order die, so that every purchase is immediately playable, or that no packs come with an order die. It needs to be one way or the other. It would be like if Warmachine boxes came with unit cards but the blisters did not.]

**Warhams-77**

I did not mean blisters, but individual unit and army boxed sets. My question to info at warlordgames.com and the answer I got yesterday.

Hello Warlord Games,

do the Gates of Antares miniature box sets and the new starter armies contain order dice?

Kind regards

Response from H.J. at WLG

I can confirm that they do contain dice inside them.

I hope this answers your question!

**judgedoug**

Cool, so their facebook team says "There are no order dice in the Concord or Ghar starter armies" but their info@ people say that the starter armies "do contain dice inside them."

Great!

(same team confirmed that as the Beta boxes are replaced with the new printing - white box branding - there will be no order dice inside them either)

**Warhams-77**

Ooops. Hmmm

And the item descriptions do not list them...

I am okay with buying some dice packs separately but would like to know that before ordering.

**decker_cky**

Some units still list a dice coming with them:
http://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/boromite/products/boromite-team-with-heavy-frag-borer

BTW....the boromite troops are shockingly expensive compared to all-metal bolt action minis.

I get that they're bigger and that they're sci-fi rather than historical, but 5 for $32 vs 10 for $24 (eg, Chindits) is too much.

**judgedoug**

Yeah, they're like three or four times more massive than a Chindit or a French soldier. Actually, maybe five or six times more massive than those weedy French figs.

**decker_cky**

What base size are they on?

**judgedoug**

They're on 25's, but tall and heavy. Like, put 'em in a sock and beat someone to death with. Dang, if I hadn't just sold my Boromites I could have combined them with unpaired socks and stashed them about my house for the purposes of home defense.

**warboss**

Hamfists and melonhead metals work well for that as well but given your bias against them you'll just have to settle with setting up Corvus Belli caltrops all over the floor every night.

**judgedoug**

I really gotta stop being lazy and take some more comparison pics, but they're thicker than the Algoryn and the Algoryn are already very tall models