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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 22:38:00
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
octarius.Lets krump da bugs!
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Of course.Its easy:Get a mek to stab some know wotz in itz 'ead.Course It could explode...but dats part of da fun!WAAAGH!!!
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Kote!
Kandosii sa ka'rte, vode an.
Coruscanta a'den mhi, vode an.
Bal kote,Darasuum kote,
Jorso'ran kando a tome.
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad vode an.
Bal...
Motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.
Aruetyc talyc runi'la trattok'a.
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, vode an! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 08:12:49
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility for a powerful psyker such as a Chaos Sorcerer or Eldar Farseer to 'mind-control' some Tyranid organisms. Both tend to be masters of 'indirect' psychic powers (Divination/Telepathy) over straight-damaging powers.
That being said, it's probably unlikely if there's a synapse creature around, I doubt there are very many psykers who could contend with the Hive Mind for an extended period of time.
Iranna.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 08:24:46
Subject: Controlling Tyranids
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Kanluwen wrote:
They can't be possessed. They have no souls to be possessed.
Does my Vindicator have a soul now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 08:49:59
Subject: Controlling Tyranids
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Agile Revenant Titan
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A Machine Soul
Iranna.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 09:28:35
Subject: Controlling Tyranids
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nobody wrote:
The first part was actually dealt with on a small scale in the short story "The Curiosity" where a Magos Biologis discovers a predator that nobody had seen before and was slaughtering its way through a backwater province, was in truth a Hormagaunt that had been smuggled onto a world and had a cybernetic control implanted in its head. It was strongly hinted that the local Bishop was behind it all along.
I suppose it does make sense that it'd be possible to control them that way. If it's out of synapse range, or perhaps even if it's in it, a well-done lobotomy and a computer to replace the brain (or a good chunk of it) would probably work against pretty much any living creature that's marginally following the laws of the physical realm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 12:34:22
Subject: Controlling Tyranids
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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I'm not so sure, in synapse range the Hive mind has even some form of control over even Tyranid cells and Tyranid cells are quite aggressive. Controling Tyranids would only be viable vs other factions but then why bother to get a tyranid instead of more easier to produce weapons? Controlling Nids is only useful for scientific purposes and nothing more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 13:32:12
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I can only think of 1 instance where you can *actually* control a Tyranid without much effort, and even then, it's sketchy. The creature in question is a squigg, but again, Orks have had them around for ages. I don't know if they changed once they were exposed to the Hive Mind again, but they are the most easily controlled Tyranid lifeform currently in the galaxy. Granted this is only because they have had...a really long time to domesticate them.
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"There is a cancer eating at the Imperium. With each decade it advances deeper, leaving drained, dead worlds in its wake. This horror, this abomination, has thought and purpose that functions on an unimaginable, galactic scale and all we can do is try to stop the swarms of bioengineered monsters it unleashes upon us by instinct. We have given the horror a name to salve our fears; we call it the Tyranid race, but if is aware of us at all it must know us only as Prey."
Hive Fleet Grootslang 15000+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 13:39:28
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote: Psienesis wrote:It should be noted that Daemons do not require the target of their possession to have a soul in order to possess it. This is how you get daemonically-possessed machines.
Whether that applies to Tyranids or not, who knows? But just pointing out that having a soul is not a requirement for daemonic possession.
Remember that the "daemonically-possessed machines" like Defilers or Decimator Engines, which are purpose built to contain a daemon. You also have things like possessed Leman Russes, fighter craft, etc where the daemon was originally possessing the crew but the crew gradually became more and more part of the machine.
Exception to the rule seems to be the Iron Men that we saw in "First and Only", but even then they weren't "daemonically possessed" but rather the machinery that built them was thoroughly corrupted to the point where the corruption affected the items produced by the machines.
Based on the Grey Knight books and the Dark Mechanicum, it is less possession by and more infection. Seems some demonic entities were create/evolved as what is essentially a computer virus. And as to just vehicles, well all of them have a crew at one point. possess the crew, expose it to the warp and presto demonic possessed machine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 14:42:29
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Mexico
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Unyielding Hunger wrote:I can only think of 1 instance where you can *actually* control a Tyranid without much effort, and even then, it's sketchy. The creature in question is a squigg, but again, Orks have had them around for ages. I don't know if they changed once they were exposed to the Hive Mind again, but they are the most easily controlled Tyranid lifeform currently in the galaxy. Granted this is only because they have had...a really long time to domesticate them.
Aren't squiggs ork creatures?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/30 14:55:30
Subject: Re:Controlling Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Tyran wrote: Unyielding Hunger wrote:I can only think of 1 instance where you can *actually* control a Tyranid without much effort, and even then, it's sketchy. The creature in question is a squigg, but again, Orks have had them around for ages. I don't know if they changed once they were exposed to the Hive Mind again, but they are the most easily controlled Tyranid lifeform currently in the galaxy. Granted this is only because they have had...a really long time to domesticate them.
Aren't squiggs ork creatures?
Orkoid rippers, actually. Really old fluff, but not forgotten (Or retconned  )
Cap'n Goldtuth and his merry band of pirates decided to go out and see what they could find. In the wreckage of a vessel, they discovered these adorable small creatures that looked suitably orky, and decided to take them home with them. Thus began the domestication wars. Many an ork lost his prized choppa to the squiggs, who claimed them for their chew toys. Couches were stained, gubbinz lost forever, until finally the job was done, and the squiggs were domesticated. Throw on the years, and you have the many different breeds of squiggs you know, love, eat, and/or strap explosives onto today.
Please note, the previous story was artistic license.
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"There is a cancer eating at the Imperium. With each decade it advances deeper, leaving drained, dead worlds in its wake. This horror, this abomination, has thought and purpose that functions on an unimaginable, galactic scale and all we can do is try to stop the swarms of bioengineered monsters it unleashes upon us by instinct. We have given the horror a name to salve our fears; we call it the Tyranid race, but if is aware of us at all it must know us only as Prey."
Hive Fleet Grootslang 15000+
Servants of the Void 2000+ |
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