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Schmapdi wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
The "Dwarf Battleline" might be something to wait for. Those sets have had actual discounts lately haven't they?

They have - but at $165 listed price for the set, it doesn't seem likely to have a lot in the way of content.

I'm guessing something like:
Longbeards/Hammerer box x2
Dwarf Warriors box
Dwarf Thunderers box
One new character model (that will effectively be "free" - ie the savings of the box)

Which isn't terrible, at a discount. But the old kits will mean existing dwarf players won't benefit, and the character model will prevent any real reason to double up on it.

The new "battalion" boxes have been seeing about a 20 ~ 30% discount. You will probably only see one box of Hammers, but also a gyrocopter, and maybe a cannon. That works out to about a 22% discount.

Also saw these little gems show up on the GW page for sale:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440055a&prodId=prod1140287 Beware the dreaded dwarf wizard!

*edit* Not finding the info on Bugman's.

 silent25 wrote:
Also saw these little gems show up on the GW page for sale:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440055a&prodId=prod1140287 Beware the dreaded dwarf wizard!

That aiming musket guy was one of my favourite dwarf models. I think his name on the tab was 'Doc'.

Apparently - Bugmans has the following listed as the box set:

Warriors box,
Thunderers box,
2 cannons,
Hammerers box,
Runesmith.

So I wasn't too far off - except even fewer "new" things, and 2 cannons means doubling up even less desirable. Though at least they chose the Runesmith (which you could field two of) instead of the other less repeatable characters. I was spot on with the value though! IIRC the cannon kit is $25, so exactly the value of the hammerers box.

Schmapdi wrote:
Apparently - Bugmans has the following listed as the box set:

Warriors box,
Thunderers box,
2 cannons,
Hammerers box,
Runesmith.

So I wasn't too far off - except even fewer "new" things, and 2 cannons means doubling up even less desirable. Though at least they chose the Runesmith (which you could field two of) instead of the other less repeatable characters. I was spot on with the value though! IIRC the cannon kit is $25, so exactly the value of the hammerers box.

So it's:
1 Lord/Hero Choice(Runesmith)
1 Core choice(Warriors)
A Core OR Rare choice(Thunderers--I'm thinking that Rangers are going to be Rare now)
A pair of Special choices(Cannons)
A Core OR Special choice(Hammerers can build Longbeards who are Core and Hammerers are Special)

Not a bad mix of stuff, it gets a bit better if Cannons can be fielded as a "battery" like Bolt Throwers can.

The cannon kit also makes an organ gun, FWIW...

What does everyone think of the D3 Wounds cannons rumour?

 Micky wrote:
What does everyone think of the D3 Wounds cannons rumour?

false

 pretre wrote:
Did we talk about stats in the box already?

Whoa. Does this mean something for 9th ed?

Nope, if that were the case then GW has been doing it for years cause they have the stats on GWs website when you go to the unit.

No cause for concern or theories

 Micky wrote:
What does everyone think of the D3 Wounds cannons rumour?

The D3 wound rumour came from terrible reading of a posted rumour. It was a list of all the multiple wound weapons, and it included some explicitly listed as multiple wound (2). Cannons will be cannons.

Yeah, I think it happened over on Bugman's. The poster who had a copy in hand mentioned that there were lots of D3 wound weapons in the book. When asked to expound, he listed off all weapons, abilities, runes that inflicted multiple wounds (though he didn't label the list as such). In this list were things like the cannon. It seems reasonable to expect that this was just a miscommunication.

 RiTides wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Did we talk about stats in the box already?

Whoa. Does this mean something for 9th ed?

Nope. It just means they are putting stats in the box now. Like how they have stats for units in the back of the BrB.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Did we talk about stats in the box already?

Spoiler:

Whoa. Does this mean something for 9th ed?

Nope. It just means they are putting stats in the box now. Like how they have stats for units in the back of the BrB.

As pointed out earlier they don't have special rules listed, nor do they have equipment, options or points listed. This might have been GW exploring a system similar to PP or Spartan Games with the rules being in the box but if it is someone at the top clearly missed the point by a mile or two.

I've still got a box of grey hunters with the stats printed on the back.

Schmapdi wrote:
Apparently - Bugmans has the following listed as the box set:

Warriors box,
Thunderers box,
2 cannons,
Hammerers box,
Runesmith.

So I wasn't too far off - except even fewer "new" things, and 2 cannons means doubling up even less desirable. Though at least they chose the Runesmith (which you could field two of) instead of the other less repeatable characters. I was spot on with the value though! IIRC the cannon kit is $25, so exactly the value of the hammerers box.

How is that likely to be for a decent army starting point? Could I buy that with a rule book and be sorted, or does it need padding out?

I'm pretty tempted, depending on what I can get it for (I think I've got a place that's doing 30% off RRP).

 Alpharius wrote:

 Tangent wrote:

Alpharius wrote:IF I wanted to buy lots of Dwarfs online for the best price possible, where should I be looking?

GW Dwarfs or non-GW?

GW ones, please!

No idea on that one. I mean, other than your typical discounts from third party sites. I use Miniature Market and TheWarStore, and Miniature Market is just barely cheaper than WarStore. Miniature Market is having their moving sale right now, though, where some GW stuff is 40% off.

Consider these:
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=360

They cost $45 for 24 figures, no duplicates.
I have a bunch of them.

About the rules in boxes, they are doing that for model with no rules in books atm. The men of dale have their rules in the box, as they came out before the codex was revealed. It makes perfect sense, so i expect to see it in for future releases.

decker_cky wrote:

 Micky wrote:
What does everyone think of the D3 Wounds cannons rumour?

The D3 wound rumour came from terrible reading of a posted rumour. It was a list of all the multiple wound weapons, and it included some explicitly listed as multiple wound (2). Cannons will be cannons.

Yes, that was my fault.

I was answering so many questions from the book at the time that I kinda short-cutted answering that question by just including everything that had the Multiple Wounds rule, rather than specifying how many wounds were inflicted.

To be clear, the cannon in the Dwarf book just references the Cannon rules from the main rule book.

Herzlos wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:
Apparently - Bugmans has the following listed as the box set:

Warriors box,
Thunderers box,
2 cannons,
Hammerers box,
Runesmith.

So I wasn't too far off - except even fewer "new" things, and 2 cannons means doubling up even less desirable. Though at least they chose the Runesmith (which you could field two of) instead of the other less repeatable characters. I was spot on with the value though! IIRC the cannon kit is $25, so exactly the value of the hammerers box.

How is that likely to be for a decent army starting point? Could I buy that with a rule book and be sorted, or does it need padding out?

I'm pretty tempted, depending on what I can get it for (I think I've got a place that's doing 30% off RRP).

It's not too bad IMO. In the current dwarf book you could build a roughly 1000pt army with that, depending on what you take. (With some upgrades for padding).

Have these been posted yet? Or this?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have these been posted yet? Or this?

Post is work blocked :(

Schmapdi wrote:

Herzlos wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:
Apparently - Bugmans has the following listed as the box set:

Warriors box,
Thunderers box,
2 cannons,
Hammerers box,
Runesmith.

So I wasn't too far off - except even fewer "new" things, and 2 cannons means doubling up even less desirable. Though at least they chose the Runesmith (which you could field two of) instead of the other less repeatable characters. I was spot on with the value though! IIRC the cannon kit is $25, so exactly the value of the hammerers box.

How is that likely to be for a decent army starting point? Could I buy that with a rule book and be sorted, or does it need padding out?

I'm pretty tempted, depending on what I can get it for (I think I've got a place that's doing 30% off RRP).

It's not too bad IMO. In the current dwarf book you could build a roughly 1000pt army with that, depending on what you take. (With some upgrades for padding).

Great, thanks

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have these been posted yet? Or this?

Thanks! I don't think they've been posted yet. For the work blocked:

 snurl wrote:
Consider these:
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=360

They cost $45 for 24 figures, no duplicates.
I have a bunch of them.

Pics of some next to GW dwarves please? (older GW dwarves are fine)

Personally, I think the GW ones look better.

15pts a model for a 18" S5 armour piercing flaming attack at 3+ (factoring in long range/moving we're looking at worst 6+ if also firing at skirmishers). That is of course assuming dwarf-crafted = superior design.

It seems like a fairly good unit, if a little cumbersome to set up. Any unit capable of redirecting it or stealing fire away from other units will do well due to the high cost but if fired close range at a gutstar or similar unit, it could deal a lot of damage. That said if you're at 9" against a gutstar (unless you're in the flank for whatever reason) then those guns are going to do little good. I can see units of 10 working well but nothing beyond that due to cost. The advantage this unit may have over the Thunderers is their maneuverability, but that all depends on if Thunderers get a points reduction.

This unit would be fantastic if they hadn't put the 10+ restriction, a 5man unit to transport a trollhammer torpedo into enemy lines would have been golden. At 190pts (because they're a maneuverable unit you need to have that musician on hand as well) the unit doesn't exactly thrill, but it's not a complete waste of points provided that you can keep them alive long enough to get off at least 3 salvos. That said the torpedo isn't that great either considering you're normally needing a 4+ to make it hit (rarely will you be within 12" of the unit you want to use this against and not have to move that turn as well, on top of getting it to wound and then deal 2-3 wounds to differentiate it from the usual drakeguns, that's a 5 in 18 to make any difference for +30pts.

Definitely mixed feelings here, they should have made it possible to turn this unit into a 5 man torpedo unit but as it stands, very average rules-wise.

Drake gun shoots "searing bolts of blazing energy"? Did WHF dwarves invent plasma guns now?

Yes. Makes sense, really. All what plasma is is super heated ionized gas.

Now, we know the dwarves can get super heated gas, since they live near lava and what-not. Replace "ionized" with "rune powered," and it fits wonderfully.

Wait is that more rules in White Dwarf?