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I still have two AA barges in my list, but i see your point

A sneaky tactic is to use a, ADL Quadgun manned with Scarabs. Their Entropic Strike rule works in shooting attacks and you should be able to down the Heldrake quickly, and still be effective against heavy armor.

Note, this tactic can be considered super cheesy.

Wow thats legal? Thats ultra cheese lol. Shouldnt really be legal if your "ripping armour" via quad gun

Carl4t7 wrote:
Wow thats legal? Thats ultra cheese lol. Shouldnt really be legal if your "ripping armour" via quad gun

Sort of. It's more of a loop hole where the scarab's rules doesn't specify that it's limited to close combat attacks.

Same problem with Lilith, really.

Here is the thread on Scarabs using the Quadgun
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/571422.page

Not real familier with new Necrons however if the weapon hits automatically then it can hit a flyer so long as it's not a template.

BRB FAQ "Q: Does a weapon that hits automatically, still hit automatically
when making a Snap Shot? (p13)
A: Yes."

Wagguy80,
This one is more specific, as it talks directly about the Hard to Hit special rule that flyers have and not just snap shots in general. The existence of the below Frequently Asked Question showed that the writers did not fore-see certain weapon interactions, such as what happens if a weapon hit's automatically or weapons that create a line instead of using any other template, and have since changed the Rule to include these weapon interactions as well. The answer which you quoted talkes only about weapons which are forced to fire Snap Shots while automatically hitting, granting permission for them to do so, and does not address the additional restrictions that weapons which automatically hit are unable to interact with flyers.


Q: How do maelstroms, novas and beams – or indeed any
weapon that doesn’t need to roll To Hit or hits automatically –
interact with Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous
Creatures? (p13)
A: Only Snap Shots can hit Zooming Flyers and Swooping
Flying Monstrous Creatures. Therefore, any attacks that use
blast markers, templates, create a line of/area of effect or
otherwise don’t roll to hit cannot target them. This includes
weapons such as the Necron Doom Scythe’s death ray or the
Deathstrike missile of the Imperial Guard, and psychic
powers that follow the rule for maelstroms, beams, and Novas

Like I said I wasn't familier with this specific piece of Necron equipment.

Just didn't want confusion between not rolling to hit, and auto-hit.