Amanda Knox Found Guilty (Again)

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**LordofHats**

Amanda Knox was found guilty of murder today by an Italian court, the latest twist in a murder case that goes back to 2007.

The verdict reached by the two judges and six jurors came after several hours of deliberations at the Florence courthouse.

The judge sentenced Knox to 28 years in prison. Her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito and co-defendant was sentenced to 25 years.

Two Italian judges and six jurors began deliberations earlier today. If Knox and her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito are found guilty, the court is also expected to pronounce a prison sentence. The prosecutor has asked for a 26 prison term for the murder for Knox and Sollecito, plus another four years for Knox on a related libel conviction.

This is the fourth time Knox faced a verdict on the 2007 murder of her roommate Meredith Kercher while they were roommates in Perugia, Italy. Knox, now 26, and Sollecito, 29, were convicted in 2009. After serving four years in prison they were freed in 2011 when an appeals court threw out the murder conviction. But Italy's supreme court ordered another appeals court to rehear the case.

Kercher's sister Stephanie and brother Lyle were in the courtroom for the verdict.

Knox, who is sporting a new, short haircut, remained in her hometown of Seattle for the latest trial. Sollecito was in court today earlier today, but was not present for the verdict.

On the day the deliberations began, an Italian journalist who is writing a book about the murder wrote that Knox has given him a letter addressed to the Kercher family to be given to the Kerchers if they are willing to accept it.

Roberto Costantini wrote in Corriere della Sera today that he spoke with Meredith Kercher's sister Stephanie several days ago about the letter.

He quoted Stephanie Kercher replying to the offer of the letter, "I will have to think. I don’t know, but today I don’t want to read it because I do not feel the need to speak with her now.”

Not really sure its a twist, but I've never credited Yahoo! with good writing.

**whembly**

Wow... and the persecution continues...

**LordofHats**

Weird case of the case where everything that could possibly go wrong went wrong (for both sides). I don't think the prosecution or the defense even knows what's going on anymore they're just throwing out arguments and hoping they work XD

**squidhills**

This whole case has been an enormous train wreck for both sides. I'm studying law and I couldn't even tell you all the things that went wrong on both sides; prosecution and defense (although Italy having a different legal system than the US doesn't help me any). At this point, they should just bring back trial by combat and call it a day. At least then it would be settled, one way or the other.

**Dreadclaw69**

With double jeopardy will the US recognize this latest guilty verdict?

**SilverMK2**

squidhills wrote:
At this point, they should just bring back trial by combat and call it a day. At least then it would be settled, one way or the other.

I think it was them apparently doing something like that which caused the mess in the first place

**LordofHats**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
With double jeopardy will the US recognize this latest guilty verdict?

The US didn't recognize the first verdict.

**whembly**

Yup... and I doubt she'd ever set foot in Italy again.

She probably shouldn't travel to any other countries that has extradition agreement with Italy though (ie, other EU nations?).

**LordofHats**

Eh. Give it twenty years. She'll think they've forgotten, go somewhere and find herself surrounded by guys in fancy suits asking her what they can do on this, the day of their beautiful daughter's wedding

**djones520**

The US said they won't extradite, so the Italian courts (remember, same justice system that found seismologists guilty for not predicting earthquakes), put one through to appease the people.

For Knox's sake, I hope she never puts herself in a situation to have this bite her again.

**Dreadclaw69**

whembly wrote:
Yup... and I doubt she'd ever set foot in Italy again.

She probably shouldn't travel to any other countries that has extradition agreement with Italy though (ie, other EU nations?).

Yup, maybe she should just holiday in the 50 States

djones520 wrote:
The US said they won't extradite, so the Italian courts (remember, same justice system that found seismologists guilty for not predicting earthquakes), put one through to appease the people.

Wait, what? I hadn't heard this before

**whembly**

If anyone need a refresher, here's the court document of the original appeals court that freed Knox and Solecitto:
http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com

**djones520**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
whembly wrote:
Yup... and I doubt she'd ever set foot in Italy again.

She probably shouldn't travel to any other countries that has extradition agreement with Italy though (ie, other EU nations?).

Yup, maybe she should just holiday in the 50 States

djones520 wrote:
The US said they won't extradite, so the Italian courts (remember, same justice system that found seismologists guilty for not predicting earthquakes), put one through to appease the people.

Wait, what? I hadn't heard this before

http://ksj.mit.edu/tracker/2012/10/italian-seismologists-convicted-manslaug

**Dreadclaw69**

djones520 wrote:
http://ksj.mit.edu/tracker/2012/10/italian-seismologists-convicted-manslaug

That is one of the most underwear on head slowed things I have ever read

**whembly**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
djones520 wrote:
http://ksj.mit.edu/tracker/2012/10/italian-seismologists-convicted-manslaug

That is one of the most underwear on head slowed things I have ever read

For real man... At first I thought it was a fething parody... But, alas...we see stupid people. O.o

**djones520**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
djones520 wrote:
http://ksj.mit.edu/tracker/2012/10/italian-seismologists-convicted-manslaug

That is one of the most underwear on head slowed things I have ever read

Yeah... so if you ever find yourself on the wrong side of the law in Italy... you be fethed.

Knox got extremely lucky she got free on that second trial.

**sebster**

LordofHats wrote:
Knox, who is sporting a new, short haircut...

Journalism.

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whembly wrote:
If anyone need a refresher, here's the court document of the original appeals court that freed Knox and Solecitto:
http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com

But that doesn't give details about anyone's new haircuts, so how am I supposed to figure out who's guilty?

**Avatar 720**

Italy is still taken seriously? Really, even after Berlusconi?

**Jihadin**

"Sigh"

Kronk...punish here.
Make it happen.

**Dreadclaw69**

sebster wrote:
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whembly wrote:
If anyone need a refresher, here's the court document of the original appeals court that freed Knox and Solecitto:
http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com

But that doesn't give details about anyone's new haircuts, so how am I supposed to figure out who's guilty?

Did they have any sketch artists in the court? That might help you decide

**squidhills**

Italy reminds me of a rapper.

Wait, wait, hear me out...

Ok, so all of Europe is in a rap battle, right? And its the 15th century. Don't ask why, just go with it. And Italy shows up and nobody can figure out why. Italy doesn't have the best rhymes, like France. It doesn't have Germany's street cred. It doesn't have England's tough guy image. Italy hasn't done anything big on the scene since Rome. So nobody takes it seriously. And then, just as things are getting heated with the Balkans and the Turks, Italy busts out "The Motherfething Renaissance, B*tches"... Then it drops the mic and walks off stage.

Afterwards, every other rapper had to give props to Italy, because literally all other rap that came after was influenced by "The Motherfething Renaissance, B*tches". For centuries, the starting point of everything was that song.

But after a while, people started to notice that Italy didn't show up to the anthropomorphised nation-state rap battles anymore. He was kind of coasting on the awesomeness of that song. The rumor was he went into rehab. Then he fell off the wagon. Then back into rehab, which led to the minor hit "Ode to My Homie Garibaldi". But then he got involved in that huge parking-lot brawl after that show in 1914 and he seemed to develop PTSD. Then there was the time that Germany showed up with his new "hard core gangsta" image, and Italy tried to ride on his coat tails. We all know how that ended. It was pretty sad, really. And every once in a while, Italy tries to make some new material work, but it never pans out. Now all he does is bust rhymes about a cartoonishly corrupt politician and an equally cartoonish legal system, and he just comes across as a Weird Al style novelty act that everybody stopped listening to decades ago.

This analogy has kind of gotten away from me. I don't really have a good way to end it, so I'll just click "submit" and hope for the best.

**Breotan**

She probably should never go anywhere in the UK, either. Not even on a cruise. I always had the sense that the media in the UK were hardcore for a guilty verdict and wanted Knox put away for the rest of her life. Totally opposite view of the situation than we have here in the USA.

**Avatar 720**

Media in the UK haven't really cared since the original trial AFAIK. Most coverage of the whole debacle has just boiled down to passing mentions of "Oh, and _____ happened; now to Tom for the weather".

**Ouze**

I do not believe that it is an established fact the US will not extradite her, and would like to see a citation for that. Not calling anyone a liar, merely saying I'd like to read that article.

It seems to me that it's an very unlikely - but not impossible - outcome.

**Hordini**

squidhills wrote:

Italy reminds me of a rapper.

Wait, wait, hear me out...

Ok, so all of Europe is in a rap battle, right? And its the 15th century. Don't ask why, just go with it. And Italy shows up and nobody can figure out why. Italy doesn't have the best rhymes, like France. It doesn't have Germany's street cred. It doesn't have England's tough guy image. Italy hasn't done anything big on the scene since Rome. So nobody takes it seriously. And then, just as things are getting heated with the Balkans and the Turks, Italy busts out "The Motherfething Renaissance, B*tches"... Then it drops the mic and walks off stage.

Afterwards, every other rapper had to give props to Italy, because literally all other rap that came after was influenced by "The Motherfething Renaissance, B*tches". For centuries, the starting point of everything was that song.

But after a while, people started to notice that Italy didn't show up to the anthropomorphised nation-state rap battles anymore. He was kind of coasting on the awesomeness of that song. The rumor was he went into rehab. Then he fell off the wagon. Then back into rehab, which led to the minor hit "Ode to My Homie Garibaldi". But then he got involved in that huge parking-lot brawl after that show in 1914 and he seemed to develop PTSD. Then there was the time that Germany showed up with his new "hard core gangsta" image, and Italy tried to ride on his coat tails. We all know how that ended. It was pretty sad, really. And every once in a while, Italy tries to make some new material work, but it never pans out. Now all he does is bust rhymes about a cartoonishly corrupt politician and an equally cartoonish legal system, and he just comes across as a Weird Al style novelty act that everybody stopped listening to decades ago.

This analogy has kind of gotten away from me. I don't really have a good way to end it, so I'll just click "submit" and hope for the best.

That was surprisingly enlightening. Exalt!

**Dreadclaw69**

Avatar 720 wrote:
Media in the UK haven't really cared since the original trial AFAIK. Most coverage of the whole debacle has just boiled down to passing mentions of "Oh, and _____ happened; now to Tom for the weather".

That and reporting the salacious details, calling her Foxy Knoxy, and having a "you would shag her, wouldn't you" approach.

**LordofHats**

This analogy has kind of gotten away from m

Nah. I thing you hung onto it pretty well.

**Jihadin**

I um.....wouldn't turn her down...down the road from me...to young though......maybe a harden killer..and that's a big "maybe"....but Kronk..the DakkaDakka DemiGod has received the correct amount of sacrificial goats, a camel, couple insurgents, "approval" look of a hot Nun, and John Wayne blessing. He just waiting on confirmation that there are no knives around her....

**Dreadclaw69**

Even if there was a knife nearby it is no match for Kronk Kronkington's razor sharp wit

**Avatar 720**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:
Media in the UK haven't really cared since the original trial AFAIK. Most coverage of the whole debacle has just boiled down to passing mentions of "Oh, and _____ happened; now to Tom for the weather".

That and reporting the salacious details, calling her Foxy Knoxy, and having a "you would shag her, wouldn't you" approach.

Well you would, wouldn't you?