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Just had a look at where the Dreadball KS (which I wasn't involved in) Striker package ended up. There were four teams included in that one, and including two more teams in the $150 Xtreme pledge level would definitely up my interest in seeing this through to the finish line.

I'm thinking the Brokkrs shown at the recent Mantic Open Day will probably end up being one of those included teams.

Agreed, that Marauder is excellent.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Something else I forgot to mention... this marauder:



.. is bloody nice. The only marauder sculpt from Mantic that I've seen so far and really liked.

Looks brutal and ready to smash some faces in, not comedy goofball. Proportions are good, sculpting is good.

Not being British, I can't credibly say "bloody" to mean "very", but I agree. Most of the convict sculpts look pretty usable for all sci-fi settings. The upcoming "New Sculpts!" woman reaching to catch the ball being a notable exception, as her pose makes no sense outside of a sports context.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Something else I forgot to mention... this marauder:



.. is bloody nice. The only marauder sculpt from Mantic that I've seen so far and really liked.

Looks brutal and ready to smash some faces in, not comedy goofball. Proportions are good, sculpting is good.

I concur. I really wish the 'brutal ready to smash some faces in' had been the DZ style too.

I like this guy.

I went ahead and freezeframed/ screencapped the video to reveal a bunch of concept art for stuff that hasn't been unlocked yet, quite a lot of pics so here's an album with them all in:

http://imgur.com/a/tMbML

Looks like Syphr will be either the 3rd or 4th team.

 scarletsquig wrote:
I went ahead and freezeframed/ screencapped the video to reveal a bunch of concept art for stuff that hasn't been unlocked yet, quite a lot of pics so here's an album with them all in:

http://imgur.com/a/tMbML

Looks like Syphr will be either the 3rd or 4th team.

You can have a better view here:
http://kaboum.fr/wondercat/?q=content/dreadball-xtreme-sneak-peek&language=en

Alright. Jumped in at Rampage. Missed out on the first Dreadball KS and am interested in the game, so let's see how this pans out.

Woo. Free team!

Plague nameless is pretty sexy.

This is good, liking the choice of freebie format a lot.

Hopefully they add something like a choice of 2 free teams at $100, 4 free teams at $150 as the KS progresses.

Is the new team going to be the same material?

I can't see why not, there's nothing stopping them making multi-part things out of it... although they're saying the Plague are the only team that will be.

Starting to see some good value in the KS now, there will be 64 minis in Rampage after the next stretch goal.

 scarletsquig wrote:
This is good, liking the choice of freebie format a lot.

Hopefully they add something like a choice of 2 free teams at $100, 4 free teams at $150 as the KS progresses.

If Rampage crosses the "pick 4 teams for free" line, that will put this over the top for me.

Yeah I'll probably want at least a few of the teams but not to spend a crazy amount as in the past. Rampage or possibly uproar to get the stock game too. Though... going from eb1 rampage to that is 60 bucks.. can do that just as easily fishing around retail. Inclusiveness and shipping are the only advantage there.

You have to figure you will get more than one "free" team at the 150$ level pledge. I think 4 sounds like a very probable number.

There's going to be 12 teams total, so it might even end up as 5 or 6 free teams for Rampage, along with a scattering of giants and MVPs.

With this material, the unit cost is a bit cheaper than restic, there is room for a much higher mini count. Certain Mars Attacks pledge builds allowed you to have over 200 minis for your $150.

I'm guessing Frenzy will get 16 models + 2 prones as standard for every team. Probably some other stuff like a fancy limited hardback, acrylic counters as well. They're advertising it as the complete package, pledge for this and get *everything* so it should really live up to that expectation. 12 teams of 18 + the other minis currently unlocked would total 240 minis... then some MVPs and giants and other stuff on top and Frenzy will be looking rather nice.

Hopefully the shorter 3-week format of this KS will avoid any slow parts and keep the pace moving so that Frenzy backers don't get cold feet... all the same, Mantic would be best off focusing on teams for a while I think and get those +16 minis for Frenzy stretches out of the way ASAP.

Just cause bald asterians really, really bug me....

Is hair hard to sculpt for the ham fisted?

Concepts look awesome, as usual, and that Marauder sculpt is a vast improvement over DZ, just please Mantic, make the biggest improvement in this Kickstarter QA.

 Compel wrote:
Just cause bald asterians really, really bug me....

Is hair hard to sculpt for the ham fisted?

Unfortunately, for the ham fisted pretty much anything is hard to sculpt.

I speak from experience.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Hopefully the shorter 3-week format of this KS will avoid any slow parts and keep the pace moving so that Frenzy backers don't get cold feet... all the same, Mantic would be best off focusing on teams for a while I think and get those +16 minis for Frenzy stretches out of the way ASAP.

Yep, they've done well avoiding momentum-killing stretch goals so far, and its given them the best opening day they've ever had. Hopefully they don't plan to put on the brakes with hokey stretch goals for awhile.

Oh sugar im in! Admittedly for $1 for now. Paydays to far away I'll wait for survey.

 Vermonter wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Hopefully the shorter 3-week format of this KS will avoid any slow parts and keep the pace moving so that Frenzy backers don't get cold feet... all the same, Mantic would be best off focusing on teams for a while I think and get those +16 minis for Frenzy stretches out of the way ASAP.

Yep, they've done well avoiding momentum-killing stretch goals so far, and its given them the best opening day they've ever had. Hopefully they don't plan to put on the brakes with hokey stretch goals for awhile.

I don't doubt the sheer value will be there as it is a Mantic KS but it is a bit worrisome to see a bunch of people claiming early bird slots with little intention of keeping them. Eh, that's how the KS cookie crumbles with early birds.

For those more knowledgeable...which of the Mantic KS have completely 100% delivered all products/waves to all pledgers? Is the original dreadball done? Are there still oustanding mistakes/mispacks/oopsies yet to be corrected on them all or have some of them been finished?

 edlowe wrote:
Oh sugar im in! Admittedly for $1 for now. Paydays to far away I'll wait for survey.

Chovar and crates sprue for deadzone at least.

For those more knowledgeable...which of the Mantic KS have completely 100% delivered all products/waves to all pledgers? Is the original dreadball done? Are there still oustanding mistakes/mispacks/oopsies yet to be corrected on them all or have some of them been finished?

KoW and Loka are done. Dreadball is shipped, but there's a few missing bits stuff that needs sorting from its final wave.

Deadzone has shipped wave 1, awaiting wave 2. Mars Attacks ships in August.

Thanks. I figured KOW was done but I always forget about Loka.

 RiTides wrote:
My half restic, half metal Dreadball team from their first KS pretty much guaranteed that I'd have to wait and see what they deliver here. If it's awesome, I don't mind paying more at retail to get it... but I'm not going to pay for it sight unseen (or even previewed).

Thankfully they've learned their lesson and clearly state in the FAQ the materials used this time. The multi-material Dreadball 1 stuff would drive me batty. People have good reasons for liking metal but I dislike it, and I especially dislike mixing it so it's good to see that they're not doing that here by the looks. Or if they do, they'll say it up front like they promised after... Deadzone? Where we kicked up a stink.

 Vermonter wrote:
Besides Frenzy, I think Dreadball's growing reputation is feeding the explosive first day for this one. I think there are a lot of people who missed the Dreadball KS and want to get in while the getting is good on this second go around.

Definitely agree, people love the hell out of Dreadball around here.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Something else I forgot to mention... this marauder:
.. is bloody nice. The only marauder sculpt from Mantic that I've seen so far and really liked.

Looks brutal and ready to smash some faces in, not comedy goofball. Proportions are good, sculpting is good.

Yeah he looks awesome, though I like almost all Marauders.

I'm looking forward to much smoother kickstarters from now on, single-piece plastics for board and skirmish games, hard plastic for wargames, and restic/ metal becoming a distant memory.

I'm also staying awake for the next stretch goal just so I can keep the OP updated. Someone pledge $5k or something so I can sleep. :p

So long as the front loading / backsliding is avoided yeah. But they did rein that in nicely even though it took a few days. Probably worked out better for us backers anyway, the backsliding in Mars Attacks.

edit: I'm getting me a bunch of those coloured bases I think! I really like them.

If they were multipose minis I'd be in. Looks alright otherwise.

The lack of multi pose means the value (ie. quantity) has to be that much higher. Cheaper to produce = we expect more, basically. IMO.

Also, good morning Dakka! You did well while we slept. $120K in stretch goals to paw through as the caffeine begins to flow.

^Being a heavy dz backer you should like the plague mutants team.

Just got through reading the updates, and very much yes ; )