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I would not enjoy 40k so much if I didn't roll the dice.

 Scipio Africanus wrote:
I would not enjoy 40k so much if I didn't roll the dice.

Neither would most people but sometimes it can be a hassle to roll a bagillion diec over and over again, and plus some people just don't pike the dice part of the game.

I agree that there's nothing wrong, gamewise with random number generators.

But I also agree that they're hella tacky, and should generally be discouraged. Having your opponent look at his iPhone while pointing to his unit of 50 guardsmen and saying "Alright, now take 16 armor saves" is nowhere near picking up 50 dice and bellowing "First rank... FIRE!" and then picking them all up and bellowing "Second rank FIRE!" as half a hundred dice spill out like candy from a pinata.

I mean, part of the whole deal with 40k is the experience, right?

In a way dice apps are sort of like unpainted miniatures. There's no reason you can't use them, and there's no reason you can't use only them...

... but still, you shouldn't. Paint your minis. Get some dice.

Sure shouting first rank fire second rank fire can be fun but when its the fourth time in one turn it gets very tiresome and thats when I dice app would help speed up the process

It depends on the source of the app and how they define "random" are you talking true random or pseudo random. There is a difference in the two.

People hacking apps would rank about the same as people loading dice, with the exception that loaded dice can be tested a littler easier. Taking someones phone and examining the code on it.... not so much.

Instead of an app, you could access an online roller like invisible castle which may or may not inspire more confidence.

 Forcemajeure wrote:
All I want is an app for the scatter dice. Or some kind of laserpointer dreidel... Dice are dice, we need a solution for that "hit arrow".

Back on topic: I would not mind it in friendly games, Tournaments? Not so much.

The app I mentioned at the top of this post has a scatter dice generator. It shows an arrow and even tells you the azimuth in degrees. As well as how many inches the scatter was

Well I personally wouldn't allow my opponent to use one, it would solve my issues with this one player who I believe cheats his dice...I always just want to bring a special separate bag of dice I know are balanced just for him.

 ductvader wrote:
Well I personally wouldn't allow my opponent to use one, it would solve my issues with this one player who I believe cheats his dice...I always just want to bring a special separate bag of dice I know are balanced just for him.

So like your own dice?

A GumyBear wrote:Sure shouting first rank fire second rank fire can be fun but when its the fourth time in one turn it gets very tiresome and thats when I dice app would help speed up the process

But... this is in the context of foot guard.

The only time you're going to be rolling hundreds of rolls per shooting phase is going to be with the kind of army that required you to remove hundreds of models from an army case, hundreds of models to deploy, hundreds of models to move every turn, hundreds of models to remove as casualties, and hundreds of models to pack back into your army case.

If you've gotten to the point where you have an army that requires vast number of die rolls, you're already at the point where you're a patient enough person to roll vast numbers of dice.

 Ailaros wrote:

A GumyBear wrote:Sure shouting first rank fire second rank fire can be fun but when its the fourth time in one turn it gets very tiresome and thats when I dice app would help speed up the process

But... this is in the context of foot guard.

The only time you're going to be rolling hundreds of rolls per shooting phase is going to be with the kind of army that required you to remove hundreds of models from an army case, hundreds of models to deploy, hundreds of models to move every turn, hundreds of models to remove as casualties, and hundreds of models to pack back into your army case.

If you've gotten to the point where you have an army that requires vast number of die rolls, you're already at the point where you're a patient enough person to roll vast numbers of dice.

Nah, it's all grey legs on bases thrown in to a bag.

JPong wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

A GumyBear wrote:Sure shouting first rank fire second rank fire can be fun but when its the fourth time in one turn it gets very tiresome and thats when I dice app would help speed up the process

But... this is in the context of foot guard.

The only time you're going to be rolling hundreds of rolls per shooting phase is going to be with the kind of army that required you to remove hundreds of models from an army case, hundreds of models to deploy, hundreds of models to move every turn, hundreds of models to remove as casualties, and hundreds of models to pack back into your army case.

If you've gotten to the point where you have an army that requires vast number of die rolls, you're already at the point where you're a patient enough person to roll vast numbers of dice.

Nah, it's all grey legs on bases thrown in to a bag.

I just have bags of army men on bases for my blob guard, I dont use cases wuth them I just plop down a blob and stand them up when neccessary

 Forcemajeure wrote:
All I want is an app for the scatter dice. Or some kind of laserpointer dreidel... Dice are dice, we need a solution for that "hit arrow".

Back on topic: I would not mind it in friendly games, Tournaments? Not so much.

I use a laser level to project the line for my scatter die.

 solkan wrote:

Johnnytorrance wrote:
I have a small Ork army. On some occasions it's possible I'm rolling 120 dice on an charge. Lot of dice. I picked up a dice rolling app for the iPhone, Wargame Dice. Generates dice throws, catered towards 40K,

If you use dice, your opponent can ask to borrow them. This is an easy way to ensure that you're dice are fair.

Now give your phone to your opponent so that they can make all of their rolls the same way you're making yours. This is an easy way to ensure that the mechanism is fair.

You do want to be fair, right? And, no, asking them to get their own copy of the app isn't the same. Because this is about ensuring that what you're using is fair.

Not sure why you quoted me. I'm just explaining I found a cool dice generator and asked what people's thoughts on it was.

Can you even be allowed to use a dice app in a tournament? I can't see that happening.

I do much better rolling dice than using the computer apps or dice roll programs. I even use the huge dice so no one says I am cheating. Anyone can use my dice np. Dice aren't random no matter what some people say. I rolled 4 20s in row in my last D&D game. I bet that would never happen on a dice app and we also have a guy that we let reroll a lot times b/c he just rolls the worst possible rolls all the time. I don't think guy has ever had a hot streak. Rolling bad in our group is even named after him (his nick name Scoob). It is called Scoobing out.

My game vs the necrons 2 sets of 20 warriors got 41 wounds on my squad of 5 PA GKs. I thought they were done but rolled anyway. I didn't fail 1 save. That was huge b/c that purg squad w 4 flamers killed all 40 warriors the next turn.