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Oh Fek ya.

GW you crafty bastard you sucked money out of me again when I said never again you bugger.

Deserved though, those are everything they should be. NICE!

Don't super heavy walkers move 12 a turn? Thats scary as hell. Three, 6 hull point a piece models with D-weapons that you can't shake/stun/weapon destroy them.

 Compel wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ignore the rules. We knew the rules would be God-awful. Just look at the pretty model.

Sure...



I can get 2 of these for the likely price of one of them.

With £15 left over, I imagine...

But I can never ever play it at my GW store.... hmmmmmmm

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
But I can never ever play it at my GW store.... hmmmmmmm

Because GW doesn't allow any games in their stores anymore ?

The helmet of the Knight Paladin is simply amazing!
And the battle cannon shield with the co-axial heavy stubber is awesome too!

Well done GW, well done (for once, at least...)

I'd really like to see a pic of a 15mm Dreamforge Knight next to a GW model. Compared to the WD pics, it would give a good idea of whether the scale was anywhere in the ballpark.

really seems like the GW Knight falls in between the 15mm and 28mm scaled Dreamforge stuff, although I think historically they should be more like the size of the 15mm ones.

The thing that gets me thinking is that this is only the base for Forge World to go mad with.

With all the other Heresy stuff, I can see some other weapon and maybe head variants down the line.

Ok I've gotta say those pics are fantastic. Really does look like a great model, and pretty close to the look of the TL models. Not my army maybe but it will be great to see them on the tabletop nonetheless.

 azreal13 wrote:

Sensible to clear them out before the GW release I guess.

They've actually been on sale there for some time. Northstar don't stock GW models at any rate anyhow. It's a great wee shop for sneaky little gems like these guys.

Nice surprise to see when I log onto Dakka before bed!

Now, I'm not actually grognard enough to have been around in the days of Epic, so I have no nostalgia whatsoever for Imperial Knights.

And, even so, I think they are amazing models.

Little bit worried on the chainsword though...
seems to be in a pretty awkward position, doesn't seems like it can reach that far away and that it can be swung effectively...


Oh well, the model is still amazing, so... =)

Can't wait to argue where the front arc ends and the side arc begins with opponents thanks to the oval base.

Is that Tomorrow's white dwarf those pics are from or a week tomorrow's?

Well done, those models look really good

Looks good. Looks real good.

I think, ranged weapon-wise, they are very under-powered.
Get them in CC & they'll do some serious damage but not to enough models. I assume they get to stomp as well? Otherwise a standard army should be able to cope with a whole army of the things.
Will be buying one though because they do look lovely.
Will swap out the guns for something a bit meatier & chaos it up some.

 bubber wrote:
Will swap out the guns for something a bit meatier & chaos it up some.

Actual Chaos Titans are far out of financial reach for me. But this...

Chaos Knight, here comes my money!

German site says feb 22nd release....


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 Kroothawk wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
But I can never ever play it at my GW store.... hmmmmmmm

Because GW doesn't allow any games in their stores anymore ?

Plenty of tables and games at my gw

 bubber wrote:
I think, ranged weapon-wise, they are very under-powered.
Get them in CC & they'll do some serious damage but not to enough models. I assume they get to stomp as well? Otherwise a standard army should be able to cope with a whole army of the things.
Will be buying one though because they do look lovely.
Will swap out the guns for something a bit meatier & chaos it up some.

Which fits perfectly with their Epic incarnations.

They have a very 'knightly' flavour, with fighting in honourable one on one duels the sort of thing they would prioritize.

They can stomp, as well as a S10 HoW and tank shock, so they should account for themselves well against most targets. Don't forget hits with D weapons do multiple wounds, so they should still be able to do some damage to hordes, even with a low volume of attacks.

The more I compare pics of these, the Dreadknight, and the Wraithknight, the more I think that even GW couldn't have the bare-faced cheek to charge £70 for each of these new models.

It's only marginally bigger than the Dreadknight, most of that in the torso section. Given their change to raising prices with new releases, I could see them going to £40(DK's are £33), maybe £50 if they're throwing some GW bizarro-logic about it being "worth" more because it's a super heavy or somesuch, but £70? That would be the final confirmation, if any were needed, that GW have practically drowned in their own kool-aid.

Was secretly hoping they'd be up on the GW site tonight, sadly not. Next weekend though! Woop!

Loving the look of the Errant faceplate.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're... Knights. I don't know why I'm so surprised at this, but they've taken the Knight concept and just bigger-ized it. They haven't drastically changed what a Knight is, they haven't altered aesthetics, they didn't make it a smaller Warhound or something like that. They made a Knight. A real Knight.

I'm impressed.

Of course to balance out the lovely model, the Imperial Knights digital codex will include all-new fluff about the Knights being an organisation founded during the Great Crusade by ordinary humans who saw the Ultramarines fighting and were so struck by their obvious majesty and superiority and by the Genius that is Robert Goolieman, they now don huge armoured suits just so they can pay homage to those greatest of beings etc etc

@ H.B.M.C - I'm of exactly the same opinion - am very impressed, and VERY pleasantly surprised

@ Yodhrin - Stop, just stop, right there...you might give GW ideas !!!

Anyone remember what the classic 'company structure' was for knights (you know, like warhounds fight in pairs, reavers as singles or threes etc), and yes i know they arent titans. I'm so excited about this release, i would never have called it, I genuinely thought forgeworld would end up doing these guys (to the point where every time i go to an event with forgeworld there I ask them). Ant, theyre cool enough that if they get thier own book in print I will actually buy it (but not if its a silly overpriced download)

While I apreciate that GW made something nice to have that it's not a rehash of an old kit with even more skulls(TM) I'm not impressed by the Knights I really can't see why some of you are so eager to buy them. Must be that living in Japan has made me a jaded person.

On the other hand even if they are crap we got rules! We got legit rules on the weekly WD! This is shocking! Is GW going to keep up or just a mirage like the fliers of two years ago or the SoB dex last year?

M.

 Sirius42 wrote:
Anyone remember what the classic 'company structure' was for knights (you know, like warhounds fight in pairs, reavers as singles or threes etc), and yes i know they arent titans. I'm so excited about this release, i would never have called it, I genuinely thought forgeworld would end up doing these guys (to the point where every time i go to an event with forgeworld there I ask them). Ant, theyre cool enough that if they get thier own book in print I will actually buy it (but not if its a silly overpriced download)

Groups of 3 x 3 with possible mixing of different types, led by a baron command unit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I'm just comparing the Knight Paladin to 2 Leman Russ and sobbing quietly.

Ignore the rules. We knew the rules would be God-awful. Just look at the pretty model.

Just have them count as Riptides!

 Yodhrin wrote:
The more I compare pics of these, the Dreadknight, and the Wraithknight, the more I think that even GW couldn't have the bare-faced cheek to charge £70 for each of these new models.

It's only marginally bigger than the Dreadknight, most of that in the torso section. Given their change to raising prices with new releases, I could see them going to £40(DK's are £33), maybe £50 if they're throwing some GW bizarro-logic about it being "worth" more because it's a super heavy or somesuch, but £70? That would be the final confirmation, if any were needed, that GW have practically drowned in their own kool-aid.

If I were a betting man, I would say at the very least £70.

Could easily see them pushing £80 or £90 for this, they know people will buy it regardless.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'd really like to see a pic of a 15mm Dreamforge Knight next to a GW model. Compared to the WD pics, it would give a good idea of whether the scale was anywhere in the ballpark.

really seems like the GW Knight falls in between the 15mm and 28mm scaled Dreamforge stuff, although I think historically they should be more like the size of the 15mm ones.

Here's one next to a dreadnought

While I apreciate that GW made something nice to have that it's not a rehash of an old kit with even more skulls(TM) I'm not impressed by the Knights I really can't see why some of you are so eager to buy them. Must be that living in Japan has made me a jaded person.

Well, I am officially one of the old guys (well, on the lower end of the spectrum at 32) that loved them in Epic, and the idea of having some Epic models in 40K scale is just cool.

I like what I read in the new leaked pics on the OP.

The knight sounds very similar to that envisaged back in White Dwarf back in the wearly 90's (I have that issue somewhere).

The stock knight paladin have battlecannon and chainsword, a secondary weapon, orginally a multilaser but now a heavy stubber. I am ok with the change as multi lasers are considered main armament.

There is also a Knight Errant listed perhaps also a Seneschal and Lancer then?

The knight also has a shield and its directionally biased, though the new rules allow youi to change the directio the shield faces.

It's also crewed by a nobleman who 'fights alongside the forces of the Imperium' indicating the house members have a measure of choice and provide a portion of service rather than the usual cliche of perpetual serrvice until death.