Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
As such any 40k army can take them as a allied detachment.

Knights are the best unit in the Tyranid Codex!!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
As such any 40k army can take them as a allied detachment.

Knights are the best unit in the Tyranid Codex!!!

That's not very fluffy.

 bubber wrote:
Whenever I've phoned GW customer service I've found that, when it comes to rules, they know diddly squat.

There’s a magnificent (mis)quote about the GW customer service:

“Ask a GW Roolz Boy the same question three times and you will get three answers, each one different and wrong.”

 Alpharius wrote:
You're taking the "Knight" thing a bit too literally.

I wouldn't expect to see many 'fantasy equivalents', but some infantry, light vehicle and tank support would be nice!

Given the Knight worlds' connections to the Mechanicus, Chimeras, Russes and other vehicles should be an easy port to a Knight codex.

T

 kronk wrote:
That's not very fluffy.

Dark Eldar and Daemons can ally.

Black Templars don't like Sisters, but bro-fist Eldar all the time.

I don't think GW cares about their fluff any more, so why the hell should we? Hive Fleet Scylla is getting some super-heavy walkers.

 insaniak wrote:
Anyone know what a 'Companion Guide' is...?

A form of intelligence test.

Well, FW has a bunch of Ad Mech models, so those combined with the Knights could make a solid army.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Black Templars don't like Sisters, but bro-fist Eldar all the time.

That's not very fluffy either!

Black Templars <3 Sisters.

We really need to find out what this companion is. I mean two books for the rules for a single model is really taking the piss. Even a whole book for a single model is about as exploitative as GW has ever been.

I wouldn't expect a 'Companion Guide' to be rules. I'm guessing something like a 'Janes' guide to Knight Households.

 kronk wrote:

That's not very fluffy either!

Black Templars <3 Sisters.

Not really. Ultimately, the real Templars got curb-stomped hard by the Church under Pope Clement V (reigning from France), who set both Philip IV of France (bedecked in loads of Fleur de Lys) and the Inquisition on the Templars tail, purging them on (false?) charges of Sodomy, Heresy and more.

Nobody with even a half a history lesson would feel very comfortable fielding Inquisition and/or Sisters along with Templars anyway, unless you're specifically talking the reverse pot-shot at GW's history-puns.

 Alpharius wrote:
You're taking the "Knight" thing a bit too literally.

I wouldn't expect to see many 'fantasy equivalents', but some infantry, light vehicle and tank support would be nice!

We're talking GW here with bloodfists, bloodstrike missiles, and the rest of the gak oh and a tech marine wielding bloodcog

 insaniak wrote:
I wouldn't expect a 'Companion Guide' to be rules. I'm guessing something like a 'Janes' guide to Knight Households.

Oooh, I like that idea!

I mean, not £50 like, but I like it!

Well, Kronk, you got told.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 kronk wrote:

That's not very fluffy either!

Black Templars <3 Sisters.

Not really. Ultimately, the real Templars got curb-stomped hard by the Church under Pope Clement V (reigning from France), who set both Philip IV of France (bedecked in loads of Fleur de Lys) and the Inquisition on the Templars tail, purging them on (false?) charges of Sodomy, Heresy and more.

Nobody with even a half a history lesson would feel very comfortable fielding Inquisition and/or Sisters along with Templars anyway, unless you're specifically talking the reverse pot-shot at GW's history-puns.

I thought GW based their stuff off the Anglican church, not the Catholic church.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:


So at GW Customer Services they say that they can ally with anyone.

On BOLS floats a similar customer service reply in which Jes Bickham was quoted to say that any army can ally, except Nids.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 bubber wrote:
Whenever I've phoned GW customer service I've found that, when it comes to rules, they know diddly squat.

There’s a magnificent (mis)quote about the GW customer service:

“Ask a GW Roolz Boy the same question three times and you will get three answers, each one different and wrong.”

I guess we have two out of three now.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well, Kronk, you got told.

That's one way of putting it!

 Breotan wrote:
I thought GW based their stuff off the Anglican church, not the Catholic church.

Don't think the Angelican Church had much truck with Templars, nor is it known for its Inquisition or Fleur de Lys. At least not to my knowledge. I think they looked around far and wide. Sly Marbo ain't inspired by a British film either.

Actually, they are nothing to do with religion or knighthood at all, the Black Templars are in fact named after a very specific subset of lawyers and barristers, so called for there predilection of achieving victory in battle by burying their opponent under a massive amount of litigation and bureaucracy.

(This is probably a joke)

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I thought GW based their stuff off the Anglican church, not the Catholic church.

Don't think the Angelican Church had much truck with Templars, nor is it known for its Inquisition or Fleur de Lys. At least not to my knowledge. I think they looked around far and wide. Sly Marbo ain't inspired by a British film either.

Enough to get their own wiki article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_in_England

 kronk wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
As such any 40k army can take them as a allied detachment.

Knights are the best unit in the Tyranid Codex!!!

That's not very fluffy.

He did say he was using allies so that's par for the course.

I do hope that GW clarifies what is what in terms of the books/rules with the next weekly white dwarf. Leaving important info conspicuously absent from the big reveal issue does drum up interest (and likely sales) for the next one. I'm not in the market for an Imperial not-titan personally but I wouldn't mind facing one or two with my normal armies some day across the tabletop at least once. I haven't seen any local Dreamforge Leviathans yet either (although I did see one of the original resin ones during a huge apoc game a few years ago).

 Breotan wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I thought GW based their stuff off the Anglican church, not the Catholic church.

Don't think the Angelican Church had much truck with Templars, nor is it known for its Inquisition or Fleur de Lys. At least not to my knowledge. I think they looked around far and wide. Sly Marbo ain't inspired by a British film either.

Enough to get their own wiki article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_in_England

Which starts with

King Henry II (1154–1189) granted the Templars land across England,

I am sure no young fantasy/history/sci-fi nerd in the late 1980s (before Wikipedia) would've ever known the Templars without this historical thriller. Never mind all the boring stuff about slaughter, carnage, crusades, sodomy, heresy and apostasy happening elsewhere...

And we're drifting...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And we're drifting...

How unusual....

 azreal13 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And we're drifting...

How unusual....

So true.

Wonder who brought up Black Templars, Eldars and Sisters in this thread?

I wonder who starting talking about the Catholic church.

Dark Sphere site is working fine for myself (and hopefully others) now.

Knights 63.75, plus P&P. Probably best if ordering in bulk.

 Alpharius wrote:
This HAS to be more than just an 'add-on ally army only' though, doesn't it?

Especially at those book prices!

Maybe there's options for Knight Household foot and vehicle troop support too?

Maybe even some AM stuff, if your Knight is so aligned?

Sentinals of Terra HB supplement is up on the GW site at £30. I have no trouble at all believing that GW would release a £30 "codex" for one model with two weapon options, and that depresses me a bit; at this point GW have disappeared so far up their own backside they'll soon collapse into a microsingularity.

Comes back to the whole "they'll buy what we make" and not "we'll make what they want" aspect of GW.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
You're taking the "Knight" thing a bit too literally.

I wouldn't expect to see many 'fantasy equivalents', but some infantry, light vehicle and tank support would be nice!

Why not make an Imperial all walker force?

Centurions as infantry, Dreadnaughts and Knights as light and heavy vehicles, and Recon Titans as heavy support.

That would be quite cool. I could get behind that.

Imperial Dread Mob?

I'll...

Uh...

'scuse me while I tame my wallet.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 kronk wrote:

That's not very fluffy either!

Black Templars <3 Sisters.

Nobody with even a half a history lesson would feel very comfortable fielding Inquisition and/or Sisters along with Templars anyway, unless you're specifically talking the reverse pot-shot at GW's history-puns.

If it was real history I would agree - but in terms of 40k history - the Templars and Sororitas are prefectly fine as confirmed by the recent SM Codex. The only time this has not been true was when they cocked up the Ally Matrix

back on topic - I am def getting at least one Kinght in Sororitas colours as a member of a Household beholden to the Sororitas for some reason....