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DJGietzen wrote: I think you'll find people are just as willing to play against a skulldozer as they are against an imperial knight. Those that refuse the to play against the former will likely refuse to play against the latter.
If someone is willing to spend $300 and paint the crazy thing people can at least play against it... what a letdown for the owner of the model. I still have sticker shock on that thing so cannot bring myself to buy it.
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The finger pistons on their facebook page look a little weedy, but they are exposed like the rest of GW kits have exposed critical components so they fit in nicely. Plus it's the best use of a dessert spoon I've seen since dessert .
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ironicsilence wrote: So can knights be taken in games not using the escalation rules?
Yes.
A quick read through the various entries for how to use them in games as a Primary Detactchment or Allie only refer to the BRB. No mention of escalation is in those paragraphs. The IK rules seem to be independent of Escalation, and have all rules for running them in the book. There is no need for the Apoc or Escalation book at all.
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For those who might want to know the allies list for the knight before they buy the codex.... No shocks here. The Grey Knights thing was not expected but understandable.
That is because of the lore standard imperial allies of the Grey Knights are sent to a prison or killed after a deamon incursion so the "truth" is kept from the masses.
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it's 150mm high (ie about 6") & costs £39.99 + P&P (unless you spend over £75).
Therefore for the price of one GW knight you can get 2 stand-ins & enough left to get a large McD's meal!
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What I like is that it has a chainsword & a gun which could easily be considered a thermal cannon. + it's cheaper than a DF walker.
Don't know what the quality is like though but might have to pick up a couple.
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I think that Erradicator thing has conversion potential. It seems like an incompletely done model with the way the detail is absent on the torso half but that works in its favor for converting. Slannesh was the only Chaos faction to get something specifically called a Knight and you really need to consider the shape of the Slanneshi Knights... You can't see it in this picture but that round part of the torso buldges out a good amount. All the slannesh knights have rounded elongated torso with weapons mounted to several protruded fins.
Purely my opinions but I'd guess that Khorne's mower in addition to being based on a number of Khornate and knight like epic vehicles was also based partially on the one tracked warden knight mini.
I think the bulbous a squat legs of the other two Warden knight minis are reminiscent of Nurgle. The long legged animal/bird headed lancers strike me as Tzneetch.
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People wanted to see the difference between the 15mm dreamforge levaithan and the GW knight titan.
I got a friends knight and took a couple of photos, made this account to post them here for you guys.
It's not a real fair test as the knight is on a base, and has been heightened by some rubble on top of the base too. Aside from that there's quite a substantial difference in height, and more than anything just general bulk.
As somebody that just makes models and doesn't play, I much prefer the 15mm dreamforge leviathan, aside from having full pose ability in the legs, I much prefer the appearance, and I think that with a bit of conversion it will fit into the more realistic forgeworld titans. There is a definite difference in style of the mars forgeworld stuff and the games workshop knight, with the knight fitting much more into the current games workshop plastic lineup. For example I dislike the busy paneled style of the carapace, which contrasts the smooth crapaces of the the mars style titans. I also think that the edging of the armour plates is inconsistent with the forgeworld pieces. Lastly the cost is huge, it's comparable to the larger version of the dreamforge titan, or 3 of the smaller dreamforge titans, fielding a small army of slightly less large dreamforge models is a lot more wallet friendly.
Despite that though I think it's still an impressive kit. The detail is crisp and there's lots of it, I'm also intrigued what forgeworld will do with it. The inclusion of a separate hatch place clearly implies a cockpit kit, I think they'll also do sets of legion specific armour and weaponry, which will be fantastic.
Anyway, that's my opinion, not that it matters to anybody but me.
I quite like the shoulder pads on the 15mm Leviathan. I wonder how well they'd fit on the Knight? Obviously they'd be smaller, but it might give an interesting look. Less ornate, more practical factory finish for a Mechanicus force.
I really like the LED set up in the eyes as seen in this video.
So, with the fluff now officially that the Chaos oriented "Knight" houses are functionally defunct, with only rare, completely demonically possessed "Daemon Knights" out there, my doubts about GW ever giving enough of a crap to even rip us for the cost of a Daemon Knights codex are at an all time high.
"We gave you the Khornemower, be happy and give us money!"
shade1313 wrote: So, with the fluff now officially that the Chaos oriented "Knight" houses are functionally defunct, with only rare, completely demonically possessed "Daemon Knights" out there, my doubts about GW ever giving enough of a crap to even rip us for the cost of a Daemon Knights codex are at an all time high.
"We gave you the Khornemower, be happy and give us money!"
Yeah, and I am still holding my breath that my loyal IG army can use helldrakes... Where's my loyal version of the helldrake GW? And why can't my guard use a carnifax! ARGH! wishin' 'n' fishin'
What do you mean GW! Your not going to make an (elder/dark elder/chaos/imperial guard/space marine/tyranid/necron/sisters/inquisitor/mechanicum/grey knights/etc...) crossover model usable for any and every army? Oh, the the stupidity!
It strikes me that Chaos Knight houses are probably much looser associations probably maintained mostly to ensure the ability to repair the archane technologies. Individual Knights probably strike out on their own more often and fall victim to the same corruptions that other agents of chaos do.
GW is the sort who'd turn it around and say its that very technology and corruption of the Knight systems by an Obliterator like technovirus that's lead to their insanity and disturbed behavior.
shade1313 wrote: So, with the fluff now officially that the Chaos oriented "Knight" houses are functionally defunct, with only rare, completely demonically possessed "Daemon Knights" out there, my doubts about GW ever giving enough of a crap to even rip us for the cost of a Daemon Knights codex are at an all time high.
"We gave you the Khornemower, be happy and give us money!"
Yeah, and I am still holding my breath that my loyal IG army can use helldrakes... Where's my loyal version of the helldrake GW? And why can't my guard use a carnifax! ARGH! wishin' 'n' fishin'
What do you mean GW! Your not going to make an (elder/dark elder/chaos/imperial guard/space marine/tyranid/necron/sisters/inquisitor/mechanicum/grey knights/etc...) crossover model usable for any and every army? Oh, the the stupidity!
The idea of chaos knights are almost as old as the idea of knights.
Also personally if they are doing a Imperail Knight book, I want to see books for Chaos and Eldar kights, with rules and modles. It's a cool long and established history in the fluff.
If they did retcon that chaos knights aren't realy a thing in the fluff, this is prety upsetting in all honesty.
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A number of Knight Houses came to the worship of the Ruinous Powers during the Horus Heresy, and supported the Warmaster Horus and the Dark Mechanicus in their war against the False Emperor. When the Heresy ended, these Traitor Houses presumably fled into the Eye of Terror alongside the rest of the Forces of Chaos, and remain active to this day, now twisted and changed by the mutating power of the Warp.
aka_mythos wrote: GW is the sort who'd turn it around and say its that very technology and corruption of the Knight systems by an Obliterator like technovirus that's lead to their insanity and disturbed behavior.
That would be an interesting twist for sure, it would make the mind control easier once the machine spirit has been subjected to this.