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2014/12/05 14:22:17
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
prowla wrote: This probably won't see much action in 40k.. But was browsing HLJ and noticed that the new Bandai X-Wing kit comes with proton torpedos included. Not sure if they thought this one through
Now I am unable to get the idea out of my head that the entire Battle of Yavin might have been one giant sperm/ovum metaphor.
What has been seen cannot be unseen!
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2014/12/05 15:29:31
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Now I am unable to get the idea out of my head that the entire Battle of Yavin might have been one giant sperm/ovum metaphor.
What has been seen cannot be unseen!
Totally off topic, but this was the very first thing I thought of when they explained the concept of fertilization to us way back in grade school in the post Star Wars 80s.
Complete with Wilhelm screams and those awesome Star Wars blaster sound effects.
"Stay on Target!" Indeed....
Also- as an SD aficionado, I am interested in those tanks!
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Now I am unable to get the idea out of my head that the entire Battle of Yavin might have been one giant sperm/ovum metaphor.
What has been seen cannot be unseen!
Well, the X-Wing pretty much is a phallos with wings..
We were discussing the sperm/ovum metaphor with friends, and we came to the conclusion that the whole SW:eIV is a metaphor how Princess Leia is sexually liberated after being brainwashed into following overly-victorian moral code (represented by the Evil Imperium), after encountering a young man with a 'special skill'. At first she makes fun of her rescuer, but starts to believe in him after he takes her to places she never thought of going (garbage chute, tentacles..)
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2014/12/07 12:42:00
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Price: $6.00+$2 international postage
Contents: 1 Bronekorpus Battle Tank with weapon options and some accessories
Delivery estimate to UK: 2-4 weeks
This kit came to my attention when it was shown off in a Mantic thread a few weeks ago, and for the price of £5 including postage, I figured it was worth a punt and ordered one. Two weeks later, on the first day of the two-week delivery estimate window, it arrived.
What you get:
The kit came packaged in a jiffy bag with all the parts clipped from the sprue. From what I could see, there was no danger of anything breaking in the post. Here is a shot of all the parts in the set, after about 10 minutes of cleanup:
From left to right, top to bottom:
Track unit, hull unit, track unit
Radar Dish, small turret, gun with single or multi- shot barrels, hatch, large turret, energy gun, flamethrower
Hatch, small missiles, large missiles
So lots of stuff. Some closeups of the specific parts:
Treads:
Hull:
Turret:
My only issue here is the slight gap between some of the guns and the turret housing, but that's easily solved with just a simple plasticard plate. Other than that, I remain very impressed with the details for the price, and the plastic is much sturdier than I expected, much closer to GW plastic than the toy type stuff I imagined I'd be getting for the price.
Assembly and versatility:
Assembly including cleanup of the parts took no more than 15 minutes, and not a single drop of glue was needed! Everything fits snugly together once the flash has been trimmed away, and there is a huge degree of variability in how you can put the kit together. First, I went for a Hellhound in the classic Turret-forward Chimera style, using the flamethrowers and small turret at the front, the treads pointed that way and a flat hatch at the back:
Next, I used the Radar and missile parts to build something like a Manticore. If I had them (and I will soon) I'd add another set of missiles on top to bulk up the arsenal, and maybe elevate them a bit, but as it stands, it's still perfectly servicable:
And just to show off how different you can make to it, here's an alternate gun, the treads and hull reversed and the Dozer blade added:
And should you ever need an obscene amount of firepower, behold the wonder that is Missiles on Flamethrowers on Rockets on Treads on a Dozer Blade:
In short, I rate this very highly in terms of assembly and versatility; out of the packet it has a ton of setups, and it should be easy enough to mount other kinds of weapons or turrets on the hull. Simplicity is certainly not to be confused with lack of quality here!
Scale:
This aspect is where so many kits fall down if you're planning as I am to use them in 40k or other systems, but here, I think it fits perfectly. I intend to use it as a stand-in for Chimera hulled vehicles, and here it is alongside a Russ, Rhino and a scratch-built attempt at my own slightly beefeir Chimera pattern:
So it matches up nicely, I think. Even the guns fit in with 40k's heroic scaling, so that's good.
And finally, some shots of the turret on other hulls. I may experiment with some other turret types for counts-as Chimera, in which case I'll have turrets left over...
Predator?
Alternate Russ turret?
Overall, this is a great kit, especially given the insanely low price point, and offers a great basis for conversion as well. I will be picking up another half a dozen in the new year, and thoroughly recommend it to anyone in the market for a cheap tank. Hell, combine a few of these with some Mantic or Dreamforge infantry and you have a mechanised Guard army for under £100!
TLDR: £5 worth of awesome!
2014/12/08 05:55:11
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
prowla wrote: We were discussing the sperm/ovum metaphor with friends, and we came to the conclusion that the whole SW:eIV is a metaphor how Princess Leia is sexually liberated after being brainwashed into following overly-victorian moral code (represented by the Evil Imperium), after encountering a young man with a 'special skill'. At first she makes fun of her rescuer, but starts to believe in him after he takes her to places she never thought of going (garbage chute, tentacles..)
Amusing.
But one quick clarification - *SHE* is the one who takes *HIM* to places that he never thought of going.
Into the garbage chute, flyboy!
2014/12/30 15:35:12
Subject: Re:Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Apart from its possible use as a hunter killer, the various parts (tracks, body, arms and head) could all be used in conversions and scratch-builds of other models.
A bit pricey though, perhaps.
I would confirm the scale before buying it you are interested. Their kit of the aerial hunter killer is also billed as 1/32 but in reality is much more like 1/48. Still very useable for 28mm SF Games, of course.
It’s been a while but, after the hectic pace of the Forge World office over Christmas, I’m finally able to bring you another bulletin to keep you up to date with what’s going on behind the Forge World Studio doors. I spied something pretty awesome the other day and managed to get a quick picture. Looks to me like a new class of Dreadnought. What do you think? Take a look...
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
2014/12/31 16:11:11
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
Just nabbed a 10 pack of these tanks for $68 shipped to the US, from Russia.
Has anyone here tried using bits from the Gundam kits to modify 40K / other Wargame miniatures yet? Blend East and West, as it were? Although the Gundam scale is very large next to 40k stuff, each robot is composed of seemingly hundreds of highly detailed, smaller bits that could make for great conversion fodder. I've built a couple now for my son and I'm very impressed with them, and tantalized by the possibilities.
Regarding the Tehnolog Bronekorpus tanks:
I bought one for $8 shipped when he was selling them individually. (Hopefully he'll do that again, as I could see getting a couple more. But not 10 - that'd put my wife around the bend, even though the price is so cheap.)
I think you'll be pleased with your purchase. In internet pictures, most of Tehnolog's vehicles and miniatures look to me like a cross between Warhammer and G.I. Joe, or Warhammer and He-Man; most of their kits seem just a bit too much like kid's toys to look good with my miniatures. I'm also less than impressed with their tendency to use a cockpit and slap wings on it and sell it as a flyer, then slap legs on the same cockpit and sell it as walker.
The tank, though, is a real gem. You can kit it out to look silly and over-the-top if you want to - some of the turrets / launchers would fit right in with G.I. Joe - but the many alternate parts you're given also let you tone things down to mature adult sci fi wargamer (oxymoron?) standards too. It's not hard to make a sleek, deadly-looking, but decidedly sci-fi tank.
For $6 a tank, you'd think these things would be garbage that you just might be able to salvage with a lot of bits from 40K and even more elbow grease. That's what Tehnolog's walkers look like to me; maybe worthwhile as a conversion project if I wanted to invest a fair amount of time, but silly as they are. While the Bronekorpus tanks are not quite up there with the best kits on the market with their generally simpler detailing, they're actually cast very well, they look good right out of the bag, and they assemble in any configuration in about a minute, no glue required. I did manage to break the mounting stem off of a missile rack while twisting it free from the tank, but that's been the only piece I've had any problem with (and it would still be easy to mount with glue.) The turret connection is strong but swings easily and holds its place, making posing simple. (Actually, it's more like a G.I. Joe toy in that respect, but in a good way.) Depending on your taste, the Tehnolog tanks may be even better than 40K's stylistically, if you prefer a less boxy / gothic look than the one favored by the Emperor.
Sorry for the long, long post. I gambled $8 to try one of these for Christmas, and I've been very pleased.
Incidentally, the tanks scale great with Mantic's Deadzone line. Man-sized figures look like they'd easily fit inside, and the tanks look properly impressive next to walking troopers. Unfortunately my collection is spotty - I have Skaven but not a single Space Marine - but I could post some scale pics here and throw in a ruler so you can work out other company line comparisons for yourselves. If anyone's interested, let me know.
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2014/12/31 16:39:53
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
2014/12/31 17:57:36
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
@Vermonter
I'd be interested in some pictures if you don't mind. I've got a side project going on that I might need all the bits, bobs, and doodads from these little tanks.
I apologize that my collection is unusually sparse on 40K figures . . . I don't even own a single space marine. I also regret favoring the inches side of the ruler - my American upbringing showing - but the metric side is still visible and it should be fairly simple to figure out the metric measurements from the images.
So my selection of figures is esoteric, but hopefully still useful. I'm also including a comparison shot with a Gundam Mech I just assembled for my son, just for fun and in the spirit of the thread.
Left to right: Mantic Enforcer, Studio McVey Kara, Mantic Rebel, Mantic Martian. The first three miniatures are not on bases.
Left to right: Rackham Therian Golem trooper, GW Skaven Warpfire thrower
Left to right: Heroclix SWAT, WOTC Stormtrooper, Heroclix Predator
with Mantic Strider Mech
with Mantic Deadzone scenery terrain tile
with Gundam 00 - Gundam Astraea Type-F 1/144 Scale HG Model Kit No.62
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2015/01/01 23:51:19
Subject: Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
When I hit the Volks shop in Nagoya, they had one on display. Very nice looking kit. I don't recall exactly how big it was, but I seem to recall it was a pretty good size.
It looks a bit "Super Deformed" and might fit well into 40K as an Imperial Army vehicle.
It has a Hotchiss or Renault H-35/R-35 vibe to it that Shamrock, turret on the other hand is German looking, like they mated a Pz-III to a H-35
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2015/01/11 07:32:21
Subject: Re:Gundam, Mecha and other SF Kits for possible use in 40K.
You're sure it was the Hecate and not Klim's Jahanam? I hadn't heard anything about the Hecate actually getting a kit yet, but I'll glad if it does. It's a cool design.
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