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I absolutely LOVE Valkyria Chronicles!

One of the best PS3 games ever - if not one of the best games on any system - ever!

I might need that tank too...

 Alpharius wrote:
I absolutely LOVE Valkyria Chronicles!

One of the best PS3 games ever - if not one of the best games on any system - ever!

I might need that tank too...

Yeah, I recently played that game and I have to agree- it is awesome. I was dosappointed to find out the Edelweiss is on back order, and all the bits and bobs are too.

 Barzam wrote:
You're sure it was the Hecate and not Klim's Jahanam? I hadn't heard anything about the Hecate actually getting a kit yet, but I'll glad if it does. It's a cool design.

It was in the latest Hobby Japan, and it said Hecate.

Crackle the free video site has the anime Valkyria Chronicles, And yes, I agree, it looks like Gallia,,,,,,Gaul? is making German/French hybrid looking tanks.

The Empire tanks look the oddest, and of the 1920's-1930's multiple turret ideas that were abandoned by WWII as they were more a manufacturing and practicality nightmare then the one turret machines.

Kinda curious but is there any plastic modular mech kits that out there?

 fox-light713 wrote:
Kinda curious but is there any plastic modular mech kits that out there?

What do you mean by Modular?
Most Bandai kits have the same joint connection points, so you can customize your models if you wish, and there are weapons upgrades for many Gundam and Macross kits that I'm fairly sure can be used without gluing. Robogear mechs also tend to have the same connection points so they can be customized, but IMHO, they really need to be glued in place to get the most out of the kits.

If you want modular, then Kotobukiya's Frame Arms kits are what you're looking for. They're 1/100 scale, so they're a bit larger, but they're fully modular with internal skeletons that can be configured however you want and armor that plugs on over the skeletons. The armor panels are fully compatible between all of the kits in the line and they all have ports on them for extra weapons that Kotobukiya makes as well.

 Barzam wrote:
If you want modular, then Kotobukiya's Frame Arms kits are what you're looking for. They're 1/100 scale, so they're a bit larger, but they're fully modular with internal skeletons that can be configured however you want and armor that plugs on over the skeletons. The armor panels are fully compatible between all of the kits in the line and they all have ports on them for extra weapons that Kotobukiya makes as well.

Looked up the Frame Arms and yeah that's pretty close what I had in mind for a plastic Modular mech kit. A couple of them have a really nice armored core / rugged military look to them which is very nice.

If you want Armored Core, Kotobukiya makes Armored Core models too. They're also modular, just like in the games.

Gotta say some of those Armoured Core kits look pretty nice. Any idea as to real dimensions?

Aoshima's 1/48 JGSDF kits are pretty great - because they are modern military vehicles that are not easily recognizable, so work well for near future armor (either as-is, or slightly converted)


Type 10 MBT http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00186/Mil
Type 89 ICV http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00079/Mil
Type 87 SPAAG http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00447/Mil

Jefffar wrote:
Gotta say some of those Armoured Core kits look pretty nice. Any idea as to real dimensions?

I might have an idea or two...



Armored Core on left, Frame Arms on right, Super Robot Wars in back, and a Gw Guardsman in the middle.

Wow, just found this thread.. and spent the last 2 hours bookmarking and otherwise searching for stuff..

I actually ordered a 1/48 patlabor kit about a week or two ago, so I'll have that guy in soon and can get some good scale pics.

I also picked up a 1/48 Macross a while back to use as a fighter aircraft in my Killzone army. It's pretty much perfect.

There is a 1/48 walker you guys posted about halfway through the thread that has 4 legs.. I think you were listing it as the tequila walker or somesuch.. it was originally a Robotech Defenders Commando. I own one and it's massive. That kit is from the 80s but it looks like they re-tooled it. The original kit was pretty good except for the 1/48 people.. maybe the retooling fixed them though.. dunno.

I know a lot of people are looking for 40k stuff.. but I'm trying to get into other systems like Tomorrow's War or 5150 for a little more flexibility with using stuff like Mecha and Kaiju and Dropships etc etc.. So far I haven't been overly impressed with any of the rulesets I've looked at so I'll probably end up having to mash a bunch of them together unless anyone knows a good one for that sort of thing (pref in 28mm)

Thought I would point these out..
http://www.toywiz.com/18cherno.html
18".. holy cow. There are 7" versions all over amazon as well for about $35.

Sideshow Collectibles has 20" collection of Pacific Rim.. they're statues and 3-4x the cost of those action figures.

Also, there's a Cherno Alpha Halloween costume.. so if you want, you could just get a kid to dress up and cosplay a titan like someone mentioned a few pages back

This one might be better for wargaming since he has a visible weapon. I saw another one with a sword arm.
http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Action-Figure-Danger-Damaged/dp/B00R0ADAPA/ref=sr_1_72?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1423341877&sr=1-72&keywords=pacific+rim

Pacific Rim is the shiz. I wonder how the heroclix will look next to Robotech Tactics minis. Hopefully the sequel will get the merchandising going full steam. I want model kits!

Thought I would post this to fight against the Hello Kitty Voltron someone mentioned a few pages back..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thomas-The-Train-Transformer-Super-Thomas-Voltron-Devastator-Tank-Engine-/121565271199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4ddad49f

James is too splendid to be the leader. We all know it should have been Emily.

Well, I'm going to beat you all to the punch and post this little beauty.



The Enforcers and the Squalo are there for size comparison purposes.

 Barzam wrote:
Well, I'm going to beat you all to the punch and post this little beauty.



The Enforcers and the Squalo are there for size comparison purposes.

Awesome! I assume that's the newish 1/48 kit and not the toy?

Not sure where Squalo's are from but that's kinda cool. I just started watching Full Metal Panic! and kinda want to get some of those toys too

yep, that's the recentish model kit Bandai put out a few months back. It's based on the Ingram design from Patlabor: The Next Generation live action series. The Squalo is a TAG from Infinity. It's an obsolete figure since Corvus Belli just released their redesign of it, so this one's been pass on to the police to use.

Oh, I think Aoshima makes 1/48 Full Metal Panic kits, if you're interested.

Those are nice.. the price is a little bit of a turnoff (only because I was eyeballing the toys). I saw some of the Savages for 18 bucks but I don't know what scale (I think they were 5.5" but I"m not sure).
I saw a 1/48 Arbalest but it was about 100 bucks while this 8" toy is less than half that. http://www.amazon.com/Spirits-Tamashii-Arbalest-Drivers-Bandai/dp/B0060F8GWI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_t_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=02VTKXKZVXBX6NW41VPV
Again.. no clue how they match up for scale.

I haven't seen this guy in the show but.. holy crap.. http://www.amazon.com/Revoltech-ARX-8-Laevatein-Metal-Panic/dp/B0054XPKZS/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1423624343&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=aoshima+full+metal+panic
The description says 12.5 cm which is again around the 5" mark.. Wow.. I'm getting my geek on hardcore..

I am wanting to do a scenario where some savages are escorting a VIP who is in a car etc etc..

I also scoped out a roughly 1/48 Stay Puft Marshmallow Man and Godzilla. Not sure those fit here.. but it'll be fun I'm sure

The Laevatein wasn't in the show. It shows up in the novels. Also, that figure you linked to, it isn't 8" tall. I have that Arbalest, and it's about 5" tall.

Aoshima didn't make a Savage, either. As far as I know, only Bandai did.

Alter made some larger sized action figures, they're the ones that are going for $100 and up, though I did see a few ridiculously priced Aoshima kits. The Aoshima kits were actually very affordable at around 3,000 yen, which puts them around $30ish. Unfortunately, they're either sold out or out of production. But, I'd stay away from Ebay sellers of the kits as they're all way overpriced.

Hobby Search is currently sold out, but they may wind up getting more.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10107390

Ah.. Thanks for the info on the kits! I was just going off of what I saw searching Ebay and Amazon and half the time I was distracted by (glances over at other monitor)

Oh wait..

Yeah, at first I had a really hard time finding mechs that didn't look like a stereotypical Gundam (the tall skinny samurai kind of look) but man.. there's a lot out there (thank you DakkaDakka thread!). Guys like you (Barzam) and all the others that have posted are beyond helpful.

Now that that's out of the way.. how tall are the 1/48 FMP models? Sometimes Amazon lists the size of the box.. not the size of the model... or I misread that one.. but I see kits like
http://www.amazon.com/Turn-Gundam-Robot-Spirits-Side/dp/B001K6JSRY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_t_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=02VTKXKZVXBX6NW41VPV
All the time and I have no clue how big it is or what scale etc.

You're right about the savages Bandai.. I was looking at something else that looks like a savage (also Bandai I think).
http://www.amazon.com/Full-Metal-Panic-Savage-Color/dp/B002G01EHU/ref=sr_1_14?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1423624515&sr=1-14&keywords=bandai+full+metal+panic
These savages say they're almost 8" tall.. but I don't know if that's accurate or again.. a box measurement. And that price is a bit steep.
There's a Tamashii RK-02 Scepter for 33 bucks (I don't recall that yet from the show either).
I saw these guys that say they're 5" and I don't think it's a FMP model..so I don't know about the size or the origin but I would hapilly substitute it for a Savage at that price if the size is correct

Anyway.. I'm rambling.. Thanks for the info and if you do know about the stuff I was asking about I look forward to hearing

Those dimensions are most likely for the box, not the figure. I can assure you that the Bandai Robot Spirits toys from FMP are NOT 8" tall.

Here's my Arbalest compared to my Sceptor. You can see for yourself that they're both just under/over 5"



By the way, my Arbalest is actually the v.1, but there's not really any actual sizing difference between the v.1 and the v.2. You'll also notice my Sceptor is a different color and has a different loadout, too. That's because he's a web exclusive release I got really lucky in finding for a reasonable price while I was in Japan. The regular release is purple and has giant claw things.

Speaking of the Sceptor, I believe it's either from a comic or a novel side story. I think it was a comic. The Blaze Raven comes from the same side story and had a limited release color variant released with a volume of whatever it was. I'd show you mine along with my Savages and Laevatein for further size comparisons, but they're all at my parents' house. Sadly, they got left behind when I moved out.

Now, I don't actually know how big the Aoshima ones are once built. I've never actually seen a built one in person. I'd wager that they're around 7-8 inches though. I never bought any of them myself because I didn't really care for the proportions on the models. The 1/60 Laevatein Kotobukiya did and the Bandai action figures all look much nicer to me.

Speaking of the Bandai action figures, that Turn X you linked to is also a toy, not a model. The Robot Spirits line is Bandai's collector aimed robot toy line. Most clock in at around 5-6 inches.

The Revoltech action figures are roughly five inches tall, the box is about maybe eight inches tall.

Edit: Yep, found one of the boxes. 5.5" by 7.5" by 2.5" box for a five inch tall action figure. (The boxes for the Legend of Revoltech line are even slightly taller, almost 8.5" inches...)

Hrmm.. thanks Solkan and Barzam.
While the figures in the pic Barzam took are serviceable for gaming.. they don't quite hit the scale to represent their actual counterparts IMO :/

What about
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B5SVLY/ref=s9_wish_gw_d10_g21_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=19WPV7NTB4Z1GN93KT9K&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop

or

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013K5QJ6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=OI12WDV6PLVS&coliid=IW5CQTFMWGXFU

Both of those packs stood out to me because they are both 1/48 and pretty affordable... which.. also makes me dubious as to the quality. Would you guys happen to know anything????

I thought I would mention also:
There's a tank put out by Tehnolog. It was mentioned a few pages back in this thread (I ordered some for super cheap). I actually spoke to the person who makes those for Tehnolog. There is a Mk2 coming out soonish. Currently the person (a woman named Ann) is sorting out money issues with the kit and then it'll be available. From what I saw, it looks like there will be a hydra-like turret. Check it out in the banner here http://www.souldark.ru/magazin/Netshop/Plastic-terrain/

You're going to be disappointed. Those Xabungle kits aren't 1/48. I don't know why the seller is calling them 1/48 since it even says 1/144 right on the package. Despite their age, Xabungle kits are surprisingly cool and I'd recommend getting them anyway just because they're basically weaponized industrial mecha.

The Nadesico kits are supposed to be 1/48 though. I think they're actually a little on the small side though. I used to own some of them and I think they were somewhat undersized. The kits were decent quality when they came out, but they're fairly old now and it shows. If you're just looking for Nadesico kits, Kotobukiya put out a few non-scale kits based on the designs from the Prince of Darkness movie that were overall much better quality.

Barzam, I'll be perfectly honest.. I'm looking for big fighty robots that look badass and preferably on the cheap. I don't watch a lot of anime. I used to watch all the time in the 90s.. I'm just not that into most of the more recent stuff.. it tends to be be too j-pop for me. I've been skipping through a LOT of Full Metal Panic because of the High School scenes (not automatically but if they turn into saved by the bell I look for a way out fast). I enjoyed Full Metal Alchemist and Sidonia is alright but a lot of the other stuff I've tried to watch is either weepy overly sentimental mush with occasional mecha porn or it's over-caffeinated waaaaaay too happy unicorn princess stuff (bi-polar anime syndrome?).

Anyway.. I guess my point was, neat kits are the important thing. I know guys who actually collecting Gundam Models (who are snickering because I didn't say GunPla or whatever) probably see that as heresy.. but my goal is mecha-themed gaming. The rest is secondary

Thanks for the heads up on the Xabungle. I googled a bit before I even found those and some of the kits (not those) legitimately are 1/48..but they are mostly not mecha.. and I think I saw some 1/35 or 1/32 or something.. I did see one of the models from that set built and I did a little eyeball math.. it seemed like it was somewhat close (probably closer to 20mm). I learned from old Star Wars kits that a lot of the time the sci-fi kits have scales that are a wild ass guess (at least the older ones).. and I was hoping that would be the case.

On the Nadeisco kits.. I will look into the Koto kits.. most of the stuff those guy puts out is amazing. When you say undersized, I am thinking you mean something like the 5" range. I'm really trying to find kits closer to the 10"+ range.

Why 10"+ ? Well, I did some research and I found that average buildings in a major city like Downtown LA, when scaled to 1/48 are approximately 10". This is discounting skyscrapers and is really just an average (or median.. I'm sure a math nerd will shake his fist angrily at me). I'm planning on making my scenery at that scale and would like my big stuff to look suitably big and stompy

The thing you have to keep in mind is that the scale of a giant robot depends on how big the fictional giant robot is supposed to be.

For example, a 1/60 scale Mobile Suit Gundam model like the Zaku II is a foot tall. A 1/48 scale Full Metal Panic Gersnback M9 is way smaller than that because the fictional robot is 8.4m tall, so the model in scale is only about 6.9 inches tall. On the other side of things, I've got a partially assembled 1/100 scale L.E.D. Mirage from Five Star Stories that's 8 inches from bottom of foot to shoulder.

So you do really need to know whether you're dealing with a "large tank" sized giant robot show, or a "Gundam size" giant robot show.

Yeah, that's why I ask so many questions
I knew up front that Gundams were among the larger robots (something like 18 meters or so at 1:1).
I think my big dillema is that 5-7" mecha are fairly easy to find but the bigger ones (especially at 1/48 scale) are seemingly rare and expensive. I think for a lot of gaming, the smaller mechs are probably fine (still haven't gotten to 5150 with mechs but soon). I plan on later, adding in some scenarios though that have Kaiju (Reaper Bones2 are shipping so pretty soon on that one I think ) or maybe something to fight off the ridiculously large tripod from Pegasus Hobbies.

That, and I'm itching to make a mech bay with my deadzone terrain and have a big ass robot with it's cockpit open waiting to be boarded.

EDIT: Also thanks for the rough estimate on the M9's height.. I scaled it down to 1/48 and it's ~6.9" Good to know