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Isn't the human race the product of a metric gak ton of incest?

 Medium of Death wrote:
Isn't the human race the product of a metric gak ton of incest?

yep, adam and eve had 2 boys. think on that for a while.

you'd think with all the rampant incest in the bible, christians would be ok with it.

Adam and Eve had many more children than Kane and Abel.

sirlynchmob wrote:


you'd think with all the rampant incest in the bible, christians would be ok with it.

Actually incest in the Bible is heavily censured. Example Lot and his daughters.

Predict that be the next fight say 40 years down the road after the same sex marriage issue is done. More then one spouse..which if you think about it in today economy sounds good when buying a house..3-4 income..three wives though.or husbands..then same family marriage..tubal ligation is reversible 80 years down the road....

I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

20 years, no not that soon. It takes a full generation for major attitudes to change, for something as big as peadophilia a new generation would have to be born and grow up thinking it ok, and no I am not talking about groomed victims.

However saying that multiculturalism will force changes, some cultures marry at very young ages, often ages considered illegal in western society and ages of consent vary enormously. In the battle between what gives between the right of an entitled minority to live by its standards of the standards of western nation states more ground is given by the latter than the former of late.

I doubt pedophilia will ever be on the list of things human beings allow at this stage, seeing as even parts of the world that used to marry at young ages have gradually been moving away from the practice as they modernize. Even countries where Pedophiles can even hold public office (Poland) can't get it legalized as a matter of law.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

Incest can involve two adults. Pedophilia necessarily involve children without legal responsibility and maturity enough to give informed consent and all that. Bestiality is even worse in that matter.
So, yeah, I guess it will be incest .

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

Incest can involve two adults. Pedophilia necessarily involve children without legal responsibility and maturity enough to give informed consent and all that. Bestiality is even worse in that matter.
So, yeah, I guess it will be incest .

Especially now that Game of Thrones has really brought it (twincest ) into popular culture.

Game of Thrones' depiction is pretty far from flattering

Well, it is, as the popular saying goes : still a better love story than twillight.
And not to spoil anything, but good love story have bad, tragic endings, do they not ?

Well yeah, but that's like saying someone is a better singer than Rebecca Black. In the end it might as well be an insult in itself

EDIT: Mind you. Circe and Jamie are imo, excellently written characters. But that series does not portray their relationship as a positive one, and it seems to really push the whole incest is bad thing between Jeoffry and the Mad King.

Are you talking about the books or the series ?

Both (I assume, the TV show hasn't gotten to the parts I'm really thinking of just yet).

Reading about it and seeing about it are two different perspective. Then add in the "justification" part of the story...so starts the "influence" of a generation.

 LordofHats wrote:
Both (I assume, the TV show hasn't gotten to the parts I'm really thinking of just yet).

Oh. Well, it depends. Trying not to spoil anyone here, but I do not think it has to do with incest, or that it is in any way meant to denounce it.
(Note : I have not yet finished last tome, I have still about 150 pages to read)

Oh yeah. The story isn't really about incest, but reading between the lines Martin has portrayed their relationship as subtly destructive for both of them as people, probably more for Jamie than Cercei. You might see the part I'm thinking up when you finish. The issue for the TV series is that it skipped over a lot of the back story and tiny details that bring that relationship together, so I'm unsure how it'll be handled 2-3 seasons from now.

This is OT though. my basic point is that the twincest in Game of Thrones isn't really flattering to the concept but is portrayed very destructively. Just in the first book/season alone we see it start a massive war twice (The Mad King was also the product of Incest) so while the series might have brought the idea out into the public mainstream in recent years, its not really pushing a positive image for anyone to rally behind.

Regarding the Targaryens :

Probably due to their incestuous practices, the Targaryens are prone to madness; King Jaehaerys II said that with the birth of a new Targaryen, the gods tossed a coin to decide whether the child would be a genius or a lunatic.

If incest leads to more ladies as lovely as Daenerys then I am in full support of it being legalized. (semi serious)

There are a lot of lovely ladies on that show, and I too think Daenerys probably tops the list.

Although Rose Leslie is a strong, strong contender.

I love 2D incest, but the real thing is just disgusting. When you think about the normal relationships that siblings develop from growing up together, it seems perverse for the relationship to become sexual. Whether you share blood or not, there's something "wrong" about it to me.

Hey now.back in the day being homosexual was a no no.

Films starting in 1962 about being gay started influencing the generation then. Media is a powerful tool.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

I am... doubtful of your prediction.

 kronk wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

I am... doubtful of your prediction.

It only works if you reasonably think that giving gay people equal rights is the same as letting someone marry a turtle.

Thankfully, we're too much of a soccer mom "Won't someone think of the children" nation to suddenly start letting people feth them.

 Ouze wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I have a wager with my gaming group that within 20 years either incest, pedophilia, or beastiality will be at least a protected class if not perfectly legal.

I am... doubtful of your prediction.

It only works if you reasonably think that giving gay people equal rights is the same as letting someone marry a turtle.

I have been advised by Team Wienie that should anyone even blink in a wiener dog's direction, there will be blood. So speaketh the Great Wienie.

I'm more curious about the logistics of fething a turtle, especially in America. Don't you have the snappy ones?

We do; they get fairly large and incredible mean.


If I wasn't at work, I'd photoshop a Brazzers logo on this

Presumably, the danger is what makes it exciting.

Eunachs (whatever) not much in demand job wise though.so be very selective of the turtle

 Captain Fantastic wrote:
I love 2D incest

Do you mean the cartoon ones ?

 Captain Fantastic wrote:
but the real thing is just disgusting. When you think about the normal relationships that siblings develop from growing up together, it seems perverse for the relationship to become sexual.

What about some Œdipe-like situation, where the people fall in love before learning they are actually related ?