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Hey, Dakka.
Someone at the store played me and dropped a Wolf Priest and a squad in a drop pod then used a blessing.
Is that legal? I was under the impression that it's as long as the Psyker hasn't moved (yet). He said because you choose whether to do blessings or reserves first it's fine.

Anyone got a page number/FAQ if this isn't right? Thanks.

BRB Page 125. Very first bold sentence. In short your opponent misinterpreted the following:

Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

which clarifies that psykers already on the table can cast powers before or after units arrive from reserves.

And while the above is true, it is not to be confused with the rule that Psyker's cannot manifest blessings/maledictions the turn they arrive from reserves. pg 67.

Yeah, no casting Blessings the turn you arrive from Reserve.

 Happyjew wrote:
Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

which clarifies that psykers already on the table can cast powers before or after units arrive from reserves.

It clarifies whether you can cast a Blessing before rolling for reserves. It says nothing about arriving from reserves.

Pyrian wrote:
Yeah, no casting Blessings the turn you arrive from Reserve.

 Happyjew wrote:
Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

which clarifies that psykers already on the table can cast powers before or after units arrive from reserves.

It clarifies whether you can cast a Blessing before rolling for reserves. It says nothing about arriving from reserves.

I.E. it makes "Scrier's Gaze" actually do something.

Wolf Priests are not Psykers...

Waaaghpower wrote:
Wolf Priests are not Psykers...

I would assume the OP meant Runepriest.

Rorschach9 wrote:

Waaaghpower wrote:
Wolf Priests are not Psykers...

I would assume the OP meant Runepriest.

I did too, We got priests on priests for the wolves, sometimes I get em mixed up too.

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:

Rorschach9 wrote:

Waaaghpower wrote:
Wolf Priests are not Psykers...

I would assume the OP meant Runepriest.

I did too, We got priests on priests for the wolves, sometimes I get em mixed up too.

Haha, sorry, that's the one I meant.
I've never looked through your codex that much.
Wolf this, wolf that, this is wolf something too. At least, against the Space pup player in our store.

Thanks for the replies, guys.
I never noticed that page, I just figured you couldn't since the psyker counts as having moved once he comes in from reseve.

Pyrian wrote:
Yeah, no casting Blessings the turn you arrive from Reserve.

 Happyjew wrote:
Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

which clarifies that psykers already on the table can cast powers before or after units arrive from reserves.

It clarifies whether you can cast a Blessing before rolling for reserves. It says nothing about arriving from reserves.

Outflank rolls are made when you arrive from reserves. Since psychic powers are at the same time as Outflank rolls, it is also at the same time units arrive from reserves.

Seriously? Is this legit?

I'm sure there's something in the rulebook somewhere.
Otherwise I've been doing my drop pod assault all wrong.


edit: derp derp. Next time, read the post Tig, you massive numpty.

Ok, I'm confused now.

Tigurius is in a drop pod, arriving on turn two.

Roll for divination then reserve? Or it can't be done period?

Johnnytorrance wrote:
Ok, I'm confused now.

Tigurius is in a drop pod, arriving on turn two.

Roll for divination then reserve? Or it can't be done period?

Who's casting divination? Because Tigurius can't.

Chief Librarian Tigurius can cast spells from all 5 tables

But he can't use powers when he's off the table.

1) You can't cast spells while not on the table. Pg. 67 as reference.

2) You can cast spells on guys who arrived, as that's implied with the reserves/outflank roll, provided your psyker casting the spells was already on the table. Pg. 125 for reference.

This clear things up? It was already stated in the thread, but I figured a summary would be helpful.

Johnnytorrance wrote:
Ok, I'm confused now.

Tigurius is in a drop pod, arriving on turn two.

Roll for divination then reserve? Or it can't be done period?

If you are wanting tiggy to cast, then no,p. You cannot use powers that must be used at the start of the turn when you arrive from reserves. This is unambiguous.