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 kir44n wrote:
Giant Rats? Couldn't Get away with Rodents of Unusual Size?=P

Rodents of Unusual Size? I don't believe those exist in Warhammer 40,000.

*Gets pounced on by a chaos ROUS of khorne*

I wonder if anyone has yet thought of the idea that the Codex: Imperial Guard (that exists now) and the new Codex: Astra Militarum could co-exist in the same edition? Afterall, the new codex has a different name and seems to have new units that don't exist for Imperial Guard. Even if they shared a lot of units, Space Marines have done this forever. Additionally, it's not like any of GW's codices say that it "replaces the previous edition of this book". Players just assume it does. Perhaps Astra Militarum is just some retcon spec ops faction within the Imperium.

I'm not saying this is likely, but the whole thing is so lame that players could just as well decide not to allow GW remove one of the most iconic armies from the game and replace it with Codex: Astra Latinus Absurdius Storm Piggicus.

For people who don't like the truck this 1:35 scale Hover track from bandai (from Gundam 8th MS squad) could be a nice alternative.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
For people who don't like the truck this 1:35 scale Hover track from bandai (from Gundam 8th MS squad) could be a nice alternative.

I don't particularly like that one, but I find it embarassing that every single alternative model, including the China shanty town contraption from 70 years ago, are vastly superior to GW's human elite trooper transport.

I think it's kind of pointless to look at alternatives until we know how big it is.

If it's "bigger than a chimera" and supposed to transport Ogryns, I imagine it's quite large. The price suggests Leman Russ size. but GW isn't really consistent with their pricing.

Those Tempestus look fantastic. I'm genuinely surprised and impressed. Sadly, the price is ludicrous.

That armoured truck looks about as awful as I've come to expect of GW these days, sadly. It's like GW is satirizing itself, but it doesn't get the joke.

 BrookM wrote:
Interesting that these new Scion lads and their transport use the Thunderbolt symbol, that's something that belongs to the Steel Legion.

Don’t associate my Steel Legion with these abominations!!!

And I really hope the plastic Steel Legion rumor flops. At this rate they too will have spikes on their helmets gothic chest plate, disregarding any fluff of there coats being armour, and high heels...

 Ruberu wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Interesting that these new Scion lads and their transport use the Thunderbolt symbol, that's something that belongs to the Steel Legion.

Don’t associate my Steel Legion with these abominations!!!

And I really hope the plastic Steel Legion rumor flops. At this rate they too will have spikes on their helmets gothic chest plate, disregarding any fluff of there coats being armour, and high heels...

I bet there'll be a supplement with nothing but steel legion and there's no tell what they will do to them....

That truck just doent fit with the IG in my opinion. It would be better suited as a looted Ork truck or Battlewagon (depending on its actual size).

I am also not a fan of the Scion's either. Gothic breastplates and a beret? who are they tring to be lol.

I have been busy painting and converting my Guard over the last few months and really enjoying myself.

If this is what is going to be comming out, I will just find better models and substitute.

Zengu wrote:

 Ruberu wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Interesting that these new Scion lads and their transport use the Thunderbolt symbol, that's something that belongs to the Steel Legion.

Don’t associate my Steel Legion with these abominations!!!

And I really hope the plastic Steel Legion rumor flops. At this rate they too will have spikes on their helmets gothic chest plate, disregarding any fluff of there coats being armour, and high heels...

I bet there'll be a supplement with nothing but steel legion and there's no tell what they will do to them....

Well then, if that be the case then i could always take my 70+ Steel Legion, put them in a bag, then brain the writer of that codex into submission! Go metals =P

In all seriousness a Steel Legion supplement would be rockin if it gave special rules to Chimera Vets and/or IS in Chimera, maybe give them a special price on commissars or if a commissar lord is leading the army, etc.

It's probably worth waiting to find out the actual size and application of the Taurox before people get too carried away suggesting alternatives...


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 Necro wrote:
I am also not a fan of the Scion's either. Gothic breastplates and a beret? who are they tring to be lol.

40K Stormtroopers?

The berets harken back to the 2nd ed Stormtrooper models, and the breastplate is very similar to what Guard officers wore in Roge Trader.

 insaniak wrote:
It's probably worth waiting to find out the actual size and application of the Taurox before people get too carried away suggesting alternatives...


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 Necro wrote:
I am also not a fan of the Scion's either. Gothic breastplates and a beret? who are they tring to be lol.

40K Stormtroopers?

The berets harken back to the 2nd ed Stormtrooper models, and the breastplate is very similar to what Guard officers wore in Roge Trader.

Several of the commissar units (and the lord) all wear metal bresatplates, you just cant see them very well under their coats

 generalchaos34 wrote:
Several of the commissar units (and the lord) all wear metal bresatplates, you just cant see them very well under their coats

Yeah, it was the specific style of breastplate that I was referring to, though. The Scions are essentially Rogue Trader guard with 2nd edition berets and 3rd edition guns.

So I'm wondering, does anyone here think that when the new stormtroopers are released, the old metal ones will go bye-bye? I'm not really too crazy about their new look and I'd like to get some of the classic guys soon, but I'm worried that they'll probably be gone before I can get to them.

Got my 3rd(?) ed stormies safe at home, but you could easily wing it that each stormtrooper squad has different equipement pattern, since they come from all around the Imperium

I hope the mini-dex mentions something about their numbers, because 10 000 is really not enough.

I didn't realise it until I was playing it today that the Taurox looks just like a boss from Metal Slug 4.

I'm not really liking these new kits...

The taurox looks a bit too much like a toy - there is just something about it's proportions and height off the ground.

So, when were we going to be able to order forgeworld from GW stores? I need me some more DKoK!

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
So I'm wondering, does anyone here think that when the new stormtroopers are released, the old metal ones will go bye-bye? I'm not really too crazy about their new look and I'd like to get some of the classic guys soon, but I'm worried that they'll probably be gone before I can get to them.

I don't really like the actual current Storm Trooper models, however I'm very tempted to get some Kasrkin just in case they are removed.

I don't HATE the new ones, but they aren't blowing me away and they cost a fortune. IG are already one of the more expensive armies to collect without giving us only 5 models for $35.

I feel lonely thinking that even if expensive the new ST are worth the money plus I like the berets. :(

M.

PS: And this comes from a person that buys everything 3rd party unless the official kit is spot on

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
So I'm wondering, does anyone here think that when the new stormtroopers are released, the old metal ones will go bye-bye?

Givent hat GW discontinued metal production some time ago, and recently (apparently) began phasing out 'Fine'cast, yes, that's pretty much a given.

insaniak wrote:It's probably worth waiting to find out the actual size and application of the Taurox before people get too carried away suggesting alternatives...


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 Necro wrote:
I am also not a fan of the Scion's either. Gothic breastplates and a beret? who are they tring to be lol.

40K Stormtroopers?

The berets harken back to the 2nd ed Stormtrooper models, and the breastplate is very similar to what Guard officers wore in Roge Trader.

Dont get me wrong I like the beret. I have some of the old stormtroopers with them and they are great models. The breastplate is to fantasy looking for my liking and together with the beret makes them look silly in my opinion.

If these are the stormtroopers I was so looking forward to being released, I will be building my own.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think it's kind of pointless to look at alternatives until we know how big it is.

If it's "bigger than a chimera" and supposed to transport Ogryns, I imagine it's quite large. The price suggests Leman Russ size. but GW isn't really consistent with their pricing.

The Taurox is $55 AUD from the picture, meaning it is Rhino priced in Australia. Ergo, it will be Chimera sized.

 Therion wrote:
I wonder if anyone has yet thought of the idea that the Codex: Imperial Guard (that exists now) and the new Codex: Astra Militarum could co-exist in the same edition? Afterall, the new codex has a different name and seems to have new units that don't exist for Imperial Guard. Even if they shared a lot of units, Space Marines have done this forever. Additionally, it's not like any of GW's codices say that it "replaces the previous edition of this book". Players just assume it does. Perhaps Astra Militarum is just some retcon spec ops faction within the Imperium.

I'm not saying this is likely, but the whole thing is so lame that players could just as well decide not to allow GW remove one of the most iconic armies from the game and replace it with Codex: Astra Latinus Absurdius Storm Piggicus.

Astra Militarum is a rough translation to "star military" or "space military" if I'm not mistaken. Add the Commissar on the front of the codex cover and the fact that the confirmed codex supplement Militarum Tempestus shares its kits with the Astra Militarum and there is absolutely no doubt this is the "new" Imperial Guard.

Caederes wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think it's kind of pointless to look at alternatives until we know how big it is.

If it's "bigger than a chimera" and supposed to transport Ogryns, I imagine it's quite large. The price suggests Leman Russ size. but GW isn't really consistent with their pricing.

The Taurox is $55 AUD from the picture, meaning it is Rhino priced in Australia. Ergo, it will be Chimera sized.

Australian pricing is whack, so I used the UK pricing. By UK pricing it's 29GBP, that's closer to Leman Russ pricing (31GBP) than Rhino/Chimera pricing (22.5GBP).

You can't really get anything based off price anyway, as all tank variants of the same hull are much the same sized but vary massively in price.

Caederes wrote:
The Taurox is $55 AUD from the picture, meaning it is Rhino priced in Australia. Ergo, it will be Chimera sized.

40K models aren't priced by their size.

Caederes wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think it's kind of pointless to look at alternatives until we know how big it is.

If it's "bigger than a chimera" and supposed to transport Ogryns, I imagine it's quite large. The price suggests Leman Russ size. but GW isn't really consistent with their pricing.

The Taurox is $55 AUD from the picture, meaning it is Rhino priced in Australia. Ergo, it will be Chimera sized.

 Therion wrote:
I wonder if anyone has yet thought of the idea that the Codex: Imperial Guard (that exists now) and the new Codex: Astra Militarum could co-exist in the same edition? Afterall, the new codex has a different name and seems to have new units that don't exist for Imperial Guard. Even if they shared a lot of units, Space Marines have done this forever. Additionally, it's not like any of GW's codices say that it "replaces the previous edition of this book". Players just assume it does. Perhaps Astra Militarum is just some retcon spec ops faction within the Imperium.

I'm not saying this is likely, but the whole thing is so lame that players could just as well decide not to allow GW remove one of the most iconic armies from the game and replace it with Codex: Astra Latinus Absurdius Storm Piggicus.

Astra Militarum is a rough translation to "star military" or "space military" if I'm not mistaken. Add the Commissar on the front of the codex cover and the fact that the confirmed codex supplement Militarum Tempestus shares its kits with the Astra Militarum and there is absolutely no doubt this is the "new" Imperial Guard.

Someone said to me the other night it may just be a blanket name for all the organisations involved with the imperial guard (like navy and commissars and so on) all combined under the term astra militarum. I am doubtful of that but wouldnt be too bad at all.

 Miguelsan wrote:
I feel lonely thinking that even if expensive the new ST are worth the money plus I like the berets. :(

M.

PS: And this comes from a person that buys everything 3rd party unless the official kit is spot on

I am with you buddy (but I buy FW models, so those stormies are cheap-ish )

i dig the new storm troopers, just do a headswap on them because berets on people in the field is slowed. the ogryn short bus will be bought en mass by ork players everywhere.

Other than the new codex, I haven't seen anything here that I want to pay money for. TBH, I'm not even sure I want to pay money for the codex, and IG are my primary army!!!

I will wait for reviews of the codex before I buy one.

The vehicle is super ugly and defies any functional logic. Perhaps it is a 40K steam tank?

The Scions are OK but their aesthetic just doesn't look right to me. I also wonder how posable the models will be with the hotshot hellguns. Those power cables may mean that the torso positions are fairly static.

The rumors still mention three more kits (Ogryns and two others). I hope those kits will be better.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Miguelsan wrote:
I feel lonely thinking that even if expensive the new ST are worth the money plus I like the berets. :(

M.

PS: And this comes from a person that buys everything 3rd party unless the official kit is spot on

I am with you buddy (but I buy FW models, so those stormies are cheap-ish )

Actually they're more expensive than DKOK Grenadiers, lol.

Not in Canada, with added shipping fees they aren't

Edit: And the store where I will be buying them has a discount on GW stuff, I think.