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Back in the English morass

There is an Italian tree in development for the PC at the moment as well as a 'European' tree for smaller nations such as Sweden. As it stands though the Chinese and Japanese trees are very small, they each have a light/medium and a heavy line.

I think by far the biggest problem with the game is its matchmaker, trying to fight tanks 2 tiers above you is an exercise in frustration. Its no where near as bad as it used to be (there used to be a 4 tier range....) but I would far rather the gap was reduced to a single tier. I would prefer to wait longer for a game that I would be actually useful in.

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 Palindrome wrote:
There is an Italian tree in development for the PC at the moment as well as a 'European' tree for smaller nations such as Sweden. As it stands though the Chinese and Japanese trees are very small, they each have a light/medium and a heavy line.

I think by far the biggest problem with the game is its matchmaker, trying to fight tanks 2 tiers above you is an exercise in frustration. Its no where near as bad as it used to be (there used to be a 4 tier range....) but I would far rather the gap was reduced to a single tier. I would prefer to wait longer for a game that I would be actually useful in.


Some tanks handle it way better than others though. Case and point is the hellcat. That thing can rock a tier 8 game pretty well. But then you get things like the AT 7, which aren't that impressive in their tier, let alone Tier 9 games.

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The hellcat is little too prone to being one shot and its top gun isnt really all that scary to a tier 8 .

Some tanks do work fairly well at higher teirs but most dont. There isnt a single heavy in the game that is anything more than a mild annoyance when they are at the bottom of the team.

Im not sure why Wargaming insists on its current matchmaker. This ts clearly unfair and there has to be a reason beyond incentivising people to buy gold ammo.

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RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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 Palindrome wrote:
The hellcat is little too prone to being one shot and its top gun isnt really all that scary to a tier 8 .


Really? I find with binocs and a camo net I can sit ages away from the main line and snipe shots into the sides of turrets/vulnerable bits of hull/whatever, and 6th sense helps me not get wacked. Constantly moving after firing etc also helps with that. I don't know, my friends and I really rate the hellcat at tier 8 compared to other tanks when they try and jump tiers. But each to their own I guess, I'm sure there are tanks that you have played which you think can handle the mm really well that I' think have similar problems at higher tiers.

But I would be all for a mm change to 1 tier either side.

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Tanks with big derp guns are the most versatile at higher tiers (the KV2 and SU152 are perfect examples). Guns that rely on AP rounds have a nasty tendency to bounce, aiming at weakspots does help a lot but they tend to be small targets. Additonally rounds lose penetration over range so sitting at your view range and sniping means that your penetration is significantly reduced. "That one bounced".

My Su152 LOVES Hellcats.

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RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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 Palindrome wrote:
Tanks with big derp guns are the most versatile at higher tiers (the KV2 and SU152 are perfect examples). Guns that rely on AP rounds have a nasty tendency to bounce, aiming at weakspots does help a lot but they tend to be small targets. Additonally rounds lose penetration over range so sitting at your view range and sniping means that your penetration is significantly reduced. "That one bounced".

My Su152 LOVES Hellcats.


We'll just have to agree to disagree then

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What's the difference between an Encounter Battle and a Standard Battle?

 
   
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Encounter is the one with the flag in the middle, and both teams starting without a flag. So both teams can capture the spot in the middle, or just murderise each other. They are the games that can hilariously end after 1/2 minutes, because no one realises the enemy is capping that early and so no one tries to hit them.

Standard battles are where you each have a base that can be captured.

Assault (I know you didn't ask, but hey) is when one team has a base to defend (which can be captured) and win by either killing the enemy team or stopping the enemy from capturing the base in time.

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I think Destroyers are my favorite class.

 
   
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Hefnaheim

Mina has to be the ligth tanks actualy, up to T3 is where I have the most fun. Although The likes of the Matilda is also great fun if a bit slow at times
   
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What nation does everyone think has the best lights, mediums, heavies etc,?

 
   
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They are all differen't, its difficult to even make generalisations. Take the French heavy line for example. It starts of slow, very well armoured and with mediocre guns but ends up fast with extremely weak armour and very good guns.

http://www.noobmeter.com/player/eu/Ozorik/500244411/ These are my stats. Its quite a handy little site

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RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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Satellite of Love

So until about a week ago I've had an overall win percentage of 59. Of course it would fluctuate as I played more games, but I was able over the past few months to keep it fairly consistently at about 59%. Then about a week ago I began getting the worst teams over and over again. During the week it has been steadily dropping every time I play games. It has dropped more than a full percentage point in just about a week.

I don't know what to do about it. Even in games where I get a significant amount of kills my team is often losing. I've had several games with 5 or more kills where my team still lost. One game last week I had 8 kills and the other 14 members of my team could somehow not close the deal. It's intensely frustrating and the trend has not abated for a week or more. It's begun to affect my other statistics as well as I also find myself wanting to play less due to the problem with getting such terrible team mates game after game.

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 BrassScorpion wrote:

I don't know what to do about it.


Nothing. The match maker takes no account of player skill and some teams are simply terrible, additionally the mismatched tiers mean that all the players in a specific game aren't evenly matched. In short as long as your win rate is around 50% you are a decent player. I have played just under 7k games, my win rate is 51.8% and I would consider myself a good player.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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Just got the Hetzer. Man, I thought the Matilda was slow...

 
   
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Back in the English morass

The hetzer is probably the best tier 4 tank destroyer though.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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It better be.

 
   
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Back in the English morass

It has (relatively) thick and well sloped frontal armour and its 105mm derp gun can one shot EVERYTHING on tier and below with relative ease. Its not fast but its also not slow either, its main weakness is its nearly nonexistent side and rear armour.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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Satellite of Love

The Hetzer is painfully slow with the starting package engine and gun, once it is fully upgraded it is significantly faster.

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As a Hetzer vet on the computer version, I can confirm that the Hetzer's main strengths are its speed with the upgraded engine and the 105mm derp cannon. Side armor is a problem, however, and the 105's slow fire rate means you're probably going to lose in a slugfest. Also, the slim traverse of the Hetzer's gun can also be a problem when an enemy tank suddenly appears to your side.

With the 105, split the ammo between AP and HE (I never used premium). Use HE on anything Tier IV or lower, or even on lightly armored higher tier tanks. Use AP on everything else and make sure to aim for weak spots like the treads since the 105 trades penetration for damage.

You've got to use a shoot-and-scoot strategy with the Hetzer. Buy and equip Camo Netting (I'd even suggest getting gold to buy actual camouflage for all environments), use the upgraded engine to get into position, and wait. Ideally you want a side or even a rear shot with the HE. After you fire, move! Reposition, get cloaked, and fire again.

Hitting vet with the tank is awesome, since you can start getting veteran skills for your crewmembers.

In some games I'd rack up half or more of the kills for my team in my Hetzer.

And remember: Hetzer's gonna hetz!

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I only ever use HE with derp guns. AP shells tend to be pretty much hopeless. HE will almost always do some damage and more to the point if they penetrate they will do massive damage, I have managed to 1 shot KV-1Ss with mine before now.
HE shells have low penetration so you need to aim for weak spots (generally speaking side and rear armour, vison blocks/MG ports, turret cupolas and the lower glacis plate). One other excellent weakspot is the front and rear drive wheel. You won't do massive damage by hitting it, though you will do some, but you are likely to break the track.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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One other thing that is VERY important about the Hetzer is that it is practically blind with the worst view range for the tier I've ever used. If you equip binoculars, you'll have less than the starting view range of the american equivalent T-40. If I spot a lone hetzer at range, I just simply stop and keep plucking away till he is dead confident in the knowledge that he won't ever find me without help.
   
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The Hetzer isn;t suited to sniping anyway, its derp gun is hopelessly inaccurate.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog 
   
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Satellite of Love

So now that Map Madness is done and the game makers have added three new maps to the game, what does everyone think of them?

New maps are:

- Lakeville
- Al Halluf
- Prokhorovka


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"Elements of the past and the future combining to create something not quite as good as either." -- The Mighty Boosh
Check out Cinematic Titanic, the new movie riffing project from Joel Hodgson and the original cast of MST3K.
See my latest eBay auctions at this link.
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I like lakeville and El Halluf. Haven't had the best of luck in Prokawhatchamdo.

 
   
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Deep Frier of Mount Doom

Woohoo! New expansion! I wonder if Poland will have its own tier.



If so, I hope they make the early war WWII one a tier X!

   
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Earth

This is too awesome to be real

Edit: Just checked the WoT site this is the coolest thing I've heard so far this year. And its on 360 too! or is this an april fools...

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April fools I'm pretty sure.

 
   
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Earth

Yes the message on the website stating so is a bit of a clue
   
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Still waiting for Russians on the Xbox.

Am I right in thinking you can't run platoons on the 360?

Whether I enjoy a match depends on random team mates. Today we had a tag with my AT 2 and a Panzer 3... he spotted a churchill 7, pulled back, I took off all the CHurchill's health as he was trying to circle me, big holes in his rear panniers, then as he got near I couldn't quite turn fast enough. Panzer 3 got his rear and finished him off. I like how you have to communicate using 7 or 8 words in total.

I'm running Churchill 7, AT2, Stug, VK36, occasionaly Panzer III. I love the AT2 for how you can sometimes control a game, always great to get the Kolabonov, and last night I got the one named after the French dude whoever he is...

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