Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.

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**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

and indeed the passports do indeed seem to be nothing to do with the accident,

latest reports are they were both now known Iranian nationals seeking to go to the west for a better life

(also when they bought tickets they asked for the cheapest flight rather than a specific route/carrier)

**Bromsy**

It can only be one thing

Gotta stop using canned salmon.

**Kilkrazy**

xole wrote:
Pacific wrote:
Where are you reading that Kan? Why on earth would they destroy a plane from a national airline of a predominantly Muslim state?

Because some Muslims don't like other Muslims. But I make no guess on why this plane went down.

Yes however the Chinese muslims are anti-PRC government.

**Mr Nobody**

Apparently, phones from some of the passengers are still active. so the plane hasn't exploded and sunk into the ocean. Unless they're Nokias.

**Kilkrazy**

Why don't they just ring them up and ask them where they are?

**Frazzled**

Reports now of a Chinese spy satellite catching something that might be wreckage SOUTH of where the plane disappeared. Pictures were on CNN.

**d-usa**

Mr Nobody wrote:
Apparently, phones from some of the passengers are still active. so the plane hasn't exploded and sunk into the ocean. Unless they're Nokias.

I do believe that this has been debunked. The claim is "you get a ringtone when you call them, so they have to still be active", and the response is that you get a ringtone while the towers are still looking for your phone and haven't found it yet.

**Frazzled**

http://www.cnn.com/

**d-usa**

Frazzled wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/

That's a bit generic...

**Co'tor Shas**

d-usa wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/

That's a bit generic...

Here http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1.

**Frazzled**

d-usa wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/

That's a bit generic...

Sorry, my bad.

**master of ordinance**

Well that's interesting to hear. One does wonder where it can have gone down.

Also, we have a new suspect-Frazzleds airborn Weiner legions could have hijacked the airoplane

**Frazzled**

Nah, Team wienie doesn't like to fly due to the security hassle. We object about having to run our collars through the Xray, and holding up our front paws for the body scanner can be difficult.

**master of ordinance**

Frazzled wrote:
Nah, Team wienie doesn't like to fly due to the security hassle. We object about having to run our collars through the Xray, and holding up our front paws for the body scanner can be difficult.

I call bull

**Frazzled**

Sorry i meant commercial flight. We're more landskimmers.

**wowsmash**

If it was terrorist could we be looking at the pilots crashed on purpose so the terrorists couldn't us the plane as a weapon?

**kronk**

wowsmash wrote:
If it was terrorist could we be looking at the pilots crashed on purpose so the terrorists couldn't us the plane as a weapon?

Possible. You'd think there would be a distress call. Also, crashing the plane to prevent a hostage situation is rather extreme.

But anything is possible, I suppose.

**Peregrine**

kronk wrote:
Also, crashing the plane to prevent a hostage situation is rather extreme.

But crashing the plane to prevent another 9/11-style attack is a perfectly rational thing to do. If you expect to die anyway you might as well die crashing into the middle of nowhere instead of crashing into a major city and killing thousands of people.

**d-usa**

Peregrine wrote:
kronk wrote:
Also, crashing the plane to prevent a hostage situation is rather extreme.

But crashing the plane to prevent another 9/11-style attack is a perfectly rational thing to do. If you expect to die anyway you might as well die crashing into the middle of nowhere instead of crashing into a major city and killing thousands of people.

The only thing that makes me question this kind of situation is the complete lack of communication from anyone on that plane. I know that the plane spend quite some time over the middle of the ocean there, so that would make things quite a bit more complicated, but I would have thought that some people would have tried to reach their families on their cell phones if they were aware of something going on. Especially if the idea that the plane turned around and crossed over land again has any merit.

**Commander Cain**

d-usa wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
kronk wrote:
Also, crashing the plane to prevent a hostage situation is rather extreme.

But crashing the plane to prevent another 9/11-style attack is a perfectly rational thing to do. If you expect to die anyway you might as well die crashing into the middle of nowhere instead of crashing into a major city and killing thousands of people.

The only thing that makes me question this kind of situation is the complete lack of communication from anyone on that plane. I know that the plane spend quite some time over the middle of the ocean there, so that would make things quite a bit more complicated, but I would have thought that some people would have tried to reach their families on their cell phones if they were aware of something going on. Especially if the idea that the plane turned around and crossed over land again has any merit.

This was the exact conversation I was having with some people only a few hours ago. No one on the plane called family when they thought the plane was going down?

**d-usa**

I could understand not getting a signal over the stretches of ocean. But don't those planes have on-board phones as well? I guess they could have disabled them too from the cockpit if it was a hijacking.

**Breotan**

Commander Cain wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
kronk wrote:
Also, crashing the plane to prevent a hostage situation is rather extreme.
But crashing the plane to prevent another 9/11-style attack is a perfectly rational thing to do. If you expect to die anyway you might as well die crashing into the middle of nowhere instead of crashing into a major city and killing thousands of people.
The only thing that makes me question this kind of situation is the complete lack of communication from anyone on that plane. I know that the plane spend quite some time over the middle of the ocean there, so that would make things quite a bit more complicated, but I would have thought that some people would have tried to reach their families on their cell phones if they were aware of something going on. Especially if the idea that the plane turned around and crossed over land again has any merit.
This was the exact conversation I was having with some people only a few hours ago. No one on the plane called family when they thought the plane was going down?

They might not have had time. Or been near to a cell tower. I mean it is ocean out there after all.

**Peregrine**

Commander Cain wrote:
No one on the plane called family when they thought the plane was going down?

Depends on exactly what happened. IIRC the 9/11 victims only got to make phone calls because the planes descended low enough, and they were over densely populated areas with plenty of cell phone towers. And of course if it was an accident and not a hijacking then there may not have even been an opportunity to try to make a call.

**d-usa**

For me the "nobody called?" is more of a question that makes me think it wasn't a hijacking. Especially if the plane flew for an hour or more after contact was lost and flew over land during that time. If it was hijacked for that long I think at least one person would have been able to make some sort of contact.

If it was a catastrophic crash, then I wouldn't expect any calls.

If the oxygen failed and made the pilots hypoxic to where they pushed wrong buttons and went on some strange course then I would expect the passengers to be hypoxic as well and wouldn't be surprised if they didn't do anything while the plane coasted to an empty fuel tank.

**master of ordinance**

well, im with d-usa's theory. Its currently the best one thats been suggested.

**Mr. Burning**

This just gets weirder with every report.

Could have flown for 7 hours AFTER tracking disabled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26591056

The communications systems of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were deliberately disabled, Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak has said.

According to satellite and radar evidence, he said, the plane then changed course and could have continued flying for a further seven hours.

He said the "movements are consistent with the deliberate action of someone on the plane".

The plane disappeared a week ago with 239 people on board.

The Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight last made contact with air traffic control as it headed east towards the South China Sea, about one hour after take-off.

Mr Razak told a news conference that new satellite evidence shows "with a high degree of certainty" that the aircraft's communications systems were disabled just before it reached the east coast of Malaysia.

According to a military radar, the flight then turned and flew back over Malaysia before turning north-west.

Continue reading the main story
The passengers

153 Chinese including a delegation of artists
38 Malaysians including an official who was due to start a job at a branch office in Beijing
2 Iranians using false passports in a bid to seek asylum in Europe
3 Americans including an IBM executive who had recently relocated to Kuala Lumpur
2 Canadians returning to Beijing after a business trip
7 Indonesians, 6 Australians, 5 Indians and 4 French
2 each from New Zealand and Ukraine; one each from Russia, Taiwan and Netherlands
Passengers' stories
Theories swirl around flight MH370
Why do planes crash?
A satellite was able to pick up a signal from the plane for some seven hours after it lost radar contact, although it was unable to give a precise location, Mr Razak said.

He went on to say that based on this new data, investigators "have determined the plane's last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible corridors":

a northern corridor stretching from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan through to northern Thailand
a southern corridor stretching from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean
Mr Razak said that in light of the new evidence, the investigation had "entered a new phase" and would focus on the crew and passengers on board.

Addressing reports that the plane had been hijacked, he said only "we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate".

The families on board the flight have endured an agonising wait for news since the plane disappeared on 8 March.

An extensive search of the seas around Malaysia - involving 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft - have proved fruitless.

Mr Razak's news conference goes some way to addressing the speculation that had begun circulating in local media that the plane had been hijacked and had somehow landed intact.

If this was a hijack why no news or demands? if the jet landed - and there cannot be many places for a commercial jet liner to land safely- why has no one seen it?

Also - I have just seen this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-26515165
www.mh370.com is up on ebay.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Sadly I think nobody has a clue what's happened,

even the plane carried on flying talk seems to be based partially on unnamed US intelligence sources saying the planes engines carried on transmitting data

and if the US did have a satellite that had conclusively picked up this info that was being freely broadcast by the plane (so no OOH SPYING to worry about) I'm sure they'd have had a named official giving a press conference as finding out what has happened is important of airline safety worldwide and for the sales of a big US company

(the Malaysian military radar data may indeed suggest this too but the degree of interpretation that seems to have been needed makes me less than convinced)

**timetowaste85**

I know this is a tragedy, so I'm not trying to soften and insult the situation, but...where is that history channel guy with the crazy hair and the aliens thing. The meme.

**Flashman**

Current evidence seems to point to some form of hijacking.

Lack of demands suggests it went wrong.

**marv335**

I'm beginning to think it's sitting on a runway somewhere.
If it had crashed, some wreckage would have been found by now.