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 d-usa wrote:
Interesting theory:

http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-plane-fire-2014-3

That is 100% more plausible than the other theories out there. So it can't be true!


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 SickSix wrote:
So we know there are four individuals on the flight with stolen passports, yet now the focus is suddenly on the pilots? Yeah sure. The media is surprised that the pilot had a flight simulator in his house? Really?

There has been a major shift in the focus of attention on this story. A lot of smoke is being blown in our faces right now.

Are you a truther?

 SickSix wrote:
So we know there are four individuals on the flight with stolen passports, yet now the focus is suddenly on the pilots? Yeah sure. The media is surprised that the pilot had a flight simulator in his house? Really?

There has been a major shift in the focus of attention on this story. A lot of smoke is being blown in our faces right now.

There were two people with stolen passports. They have been identified and cleared of suspicion of involvement with terrorism.

The pilots are the only ones on board known to have the technical knowledge to disable the transponder systems and put the plane through manoeuvres.

However if you knew the reasons and progression of the whole thing a couple of weeks ago, it is very irresponsible of you not to notify the relevant authorities.

 kronk wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
If it is terrorists I'm not surprised they haven't said anything yet. Their probably not done yet. Most likely to try and use the plan. "9/11 anyone". Also not surprised if the government's do know and aren't saying since it would tip their hand early.

If someone were planning to use the plane in a 9/11 style attack, announcing that you took the plane before using it would be a dumb idea, as you say.

I just hope that if it was hijacked that the passengers are OK. But honestly, if it was hyjacked, why wasn't a single text, email, or phone call sent? There is no way you can take 239 people's cell phones without someone getting off a text. I just don't buy it.

I'm pretty sure cellphones don't work over Oceans... right?

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
So we know there are four individuals on the flight with stolen passports, yet now the focus is suddenly on the pilots? Yeah sure. The media is surprised that the pilot had a flight simulator in his house? Really?

There has been a major shift in the focus of attention on this story. A lot of smoke is being blown in our faces right now.

There were two people with stolen passports. They have been identified and cleared of suspicion of involvement with terrorism.

The pilots are the only ones on board known to have the technical knowledge to disable the transponder systems and put the plane through manoeuvres.

However if you knew the reasons and progression of the whole thing a couple of weeks ago, it is very irresponsible of you not to notify the relevant authorities.

I'm sorry where did I ever imply that? Why don't you stop trying to sound so smug before you make a fool of yourself.

and the latest is that although they said the different transponders were switched off 20-30 mins apart (suggesting a human agency)....

nope now they're saying everything went off at the same time thus making an accident a better fit than switching stuff off

conclusion: they have no idea what happened

 SickSix wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
So we know there are four individuals on the flight with stolen passports, yet now the focus is suddenly on the pilots? Yeah sure. The media is surprised that the pilot had a flight simulator in his house? Really?

There has been a major shift in the focus of attention on this story. A lot of smoke is being blown in our faces right now.

There were two people with stolen passports. They have been identified and cleared of suspicion of involvement with terrorism.

The pilots are the only ones on board known to have the technical knowledge to disable the transponder systems and put the plane through manoeuvres.

However if you knew the reasons and progression of the whole thing a couple of weeks ago, it is very irresponsible of you not to notify the relevant authorities.

I'm sorry where did I ever imply that? .

In your post.

 whembly wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
If it is terrorists I'm not surprised they haven't said anything yet. Their probably not done yet. Most likely to try and use the plan. "9/11 anyone". Also not surprised if the government's do know and aren't saying since it would tip their hand early.

If someone were planning to use the plane in a 9/11 style attack, announcing that you took the plane before using it would be a dumb idea, as you say.

I just hope that if it was hijacked that the passengers are OK. But honestly, if it was hyjacked, why wasn't a single text, email, or phone call sent? There is no way you can take 239 people's cell phones without someone getting off a text. I just don't buy it.

I'm pretty sure cellphones don't work over Oceans... right?

There are communication satellites over the ocean, yes. Also, eventually they will be near land. If there are any towers around or satellites overhead, then a call can be made, or a call trying to be made will get through. There is no way they were so thorough that they got every phone. I just don't buy it. I've been on too many planes to know that I can stash a phone under a seat where it won't be found, let alone when you have 239 people to frisk.

So I implied I knew what happened weeks ago in my post? Sure...

What I implied is that the media focus keeps shifting and we shouldn't believe most of what we are being told. And that is basically the same thing many others here are saying.

So I will accept that the stolen passport holders are logically ruled out.

But does anyone seriously find it newsworthy that a pilot has a flight simulator?

And has there been any verification about the report that there were technicians on the plane that were working on 'cloaking' technology?

And wouldn't cell phones be out of range at high altitude?

 d-usa wrote:
Interesting theory:

http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-plane-fire-2014-3

Pff. I beat this guy to the punch way back on page 1:

 Seaward wrote:
Not as much radio contact as you'd think.

Anyway, it happened over the sea, so a collision's unlikely. Nothing to hit but other aircraft. It didn't (entirely) explode in midair if they're finding oil slicks. Best guess is some kind of fire or explosion in the cockpit. Hypoxia is a possibility too, I guess, but very unlikely.

I'm still going with the alien idea. I claimed it first, it's mine.

You know, if it does turn out to be aliens, a lot of us are going to look preeeetty stupid.

 Ouze wrote:
You know, if it does turn out to be aliens, a lot of us are going to look preeeetty stupid.

What if it was an illegal alien in Malaysia? Does that count?

Saw this theory linked on reddit, titled "Startlingly Simple Theory" http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
Does kind of make a lot of sense, but seriously, no one knows anything yet, everything is speculation.

 kronk wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
If it is terrorists I'm not surprised they haven't said anything yet. Their probably not done yet. Most likely to try and use the plan. "9/11 anyone". Also not surprised if the government's do know and aren't saying since it would tip their hand early.

If someone were planning to use the plane in a 9/11 style attack, announcing that you took the plane before using it would be a dumb idea, as you say.

I just hope that if it was hijacked that the passengers are OK. But honestly, if it was hyjacked, why wasn't a single text, email, or phone call sent? There is no way you can take 239 people's cell phones without someone getting off a text. I just don't buy it.

Thats why it went up to 45,000 feet. Lose sufficient compression/air. No more passenger problems.
Shouldn't worry about where it could have landed. Worry about the fields long enough and maintained enough for it to take off from. Its a huge plane and there was a report that there are about 20 fields in flight distance sufficient enough to take off from again.

I bet satellites and drones are all over those now, if anyone left in Washington is still competent.

This is what happened. If you haven't seen the movie, watch it and all will be revealed.

I didn't care for that movie.

 SickSix wrote:
So I implied I knew what happened weeks ago in my post? Sure...

What I implied is that the media focus keeps shifting and we shouldn't believe most of what we are being told. And that is basically the same thing many others here are saying.

So I will accept that the stolen passport holders are logically ruled out.

But does anyone seriously find it newsworthy that a pilot has a flight simulator?

And has there been any verification about the report that there were technicians on the plane that were working on 'cloaking' technology?

And wouldn't cell phones be out of range at high altitude?

'Cloaking' technology. Now you are sounding paranoid.

Wow. Did he really just say Cloaking technology?

The Flight simulator, itself, is not alarming. If they find that he's been simulating flying 777's into land mark buildings by searching his hard drive, then that is alarming.

I believe tailors have been working on cloaking technology for centuries.

 dogma wrote:
I believe tailors have been working on cloaking technology for centuries.

Some wear them better than others.


I still think the fire in the cockpit theory is the best, so far. Poor bastards.

Wow you guys are so eager to single out "truthers" it is sad.

Yes, I said 'cloaking' as in technology that hides something from electronic detection devices.

Not that crazy.

Maybe watch a little less Star Trek and stop being so obtuse.

Back on ignore. *Sigh* I tried. I really did.

 SickSix wrote:

Maybe watch a little less Star Trek and stop being so obtuse.

We can't have a cloaking device after The Treaty of Algeron.

Newb

 SickSix wrote:
And has there been any verification about the report that there were technicians on the plane that were working on 'cloaking' technology?

http://www.examiner.com/article/malaysia-jet-hidden-by-electronic-weaponry-20-ew-defense-linked-passengers

Examiner.com, the HuffPo for crazy people...

 SickSix wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/article/malaysia-jet-hidden-by-electronic-weaponry-20-ew-defense-linked-passengers

Offering an article on Examiner as "proof" of your hypothesis makes you loose all credibility.

Sorry.

Taking one article about anything as "proof" is silly.

I didn't present it as proof. I presented it as one source of a theory that is out there.

I like to keep an open mind. Unlike most people that can't accept anything that is not spoon feed to them by the mainstream media. Crazy is crazy. But there are little shreds of truth in almost every thing you hear or read. It's about piecing it all together.

It is just funny that no one has any clue what really happened but some feel they have enough information to clearly disregard one theory over another when there is the same amount of evidence for either.

 SickSix wrote:
It is just funny that no one has any clue what really happened but some feel they have enough information to clearly disregard one theory over another when there is the same amount of evidence for either.

Except there isn't equal evidence for either. There's decent evidence for hypoxia and/or other mechanical problems. There are plausible theories about hijacking, but we're still waiting on evidence to confirm any of them. There is no evidence that some magic secret cloaking device hid the plane, other than the same kind of obsessive search for "meaning" in irrelevant coincidences that leads people to believe tinfoil hat theories like "aliens did 9/11 because two of the victims posted on UFO forums". Which is more likely:

1) The plane was cloaked by some secret weapon we've never seen before. Why? How? Who knows, but it's really cool to speculate about it.

or

2) The plane "disappeared" because the system that tracks airline flights assumes that everyone has a working transponder and wants to be tracked (so they don't crash and die), and isn't very good at tracking planes that aren't cooperating. The plane is probably somewhere in the raw data the radar systems received, but without a working transponder to identify which dot is the plane finding it will be difficult and it will be even harder to confirm any theory about which one it is.

Clearly they stole the cloaking technology from aliens and they came back to get the people working on the project.

It's an alien shadow war people! Open your eyes!

Obviously I failed to communicate.

I bring up the Freescale Semiconductor people because someone may have wanted them ! Not because I think they cloaked the plane.

They would make great ransom bait or assets due to their knowledge.