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I plan to run a second army along side my nids, and narrowed it down to Orks or Sisters, which do you think? Are orks going to be similar to nids?
Also, screaming "DEATH TO THE HERETIC!" and "PURGE THE UNCLEAN!" is a major plus for the sisters, though it will sound increadibly awkward for me to voice them being male.
Then again, the orks have "DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!" that I could scream at my enemy.

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'Straya... Mate.

I would personally build an ork army, AFTER their new codex comes out in a few months. Sisters metal models just don't appeal to me at all.

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Go with the one you want most, but keep in mind that Sisters minis are very expensive compared to other armies and you'll have a hard time collecting them. But then you'll get an army that few others play and will be unique.

Orks, wait for the new codex.



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 MWHistorian wrote:
Go with the one you want most, but keep in mind that Sisters minis are very expensive compared to other armies and you'll have a hard time collecting them. But then you'll get an army that few others play and will be unique.

Orks, wait for the new codex.

Looking at the sisters models, I dunno, they just seem kinda... ugly. The faces just seem kinda malformed. Also, if they are moslty metal, that is a very big issue for me considering I dont have money or know how to paint metal.
Now that I think about it, IG also appeals to me. I love the WW2 look, and they arent even that "Burn the heretic" for an Imperium army (Which is what I hate about Space Marines, and the over the topness of the sisters is what I love). The orks has the be for the energetic nature of them, but I guess that wont really be felt on the table-top.

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Orks. Orks orks orks orks. WAAAAAAAGH! DAKKA! and STOMP DA GITZ! Are all the fun to say. If you don't mind painting 2 swarm armies, then orks are the best. Loadsa fun to play and loadsa gun to convert

 
   
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I'd say orks, but a horde army as a second army can be a big pain the butt.
   
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Let's put it this way: do you have loads upon loads of cash to spare? Pick sisters. Do you just have loads of cash to spare? Play orcs. Don't have loads of cash to spare? Don't start a second army.

Might be a bit over-simplified, but that's how it works nowadays...

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Playing Sisters is a labour of love, but a rewarding one.

Owing to the cost of the models, your army will grow slowly, but it will be extremely powerful in the low-points games you will be starting out playing.

The power curve will start to taper off as you get into the 1500-2000 points range, as more fliers will begin to dominate the arena, but anything shy of that can be readily dealt with by the options at hand.



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Do you mind your army being expensive, heavy as hell, bad in high points games, and having about half a dozen viable units? If not, then play Sisters.

Do you mind having the oldest available codex, needing to paint hundreds of models, being unsure what the rules are going to be for them, and playing an assault army in a shooty edition? If not, then play Orks.
   
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The question is simple.

Does this song appeal to you?



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As a Sisters player, perhaps I'm biased, but just to quell some of the rumours regarding the models.

Yes, Sisters can be expensive if you buy them direct from GW. The trick is, don't buy them new. Sisters have this unique property in the fact that all the models are made of metal. What this means to you as a second hand buyer, is that even if they're painted horrendously in gobs and gobs of paint, they're easy to strip down to base metal as purchased condition (yay acetone!).

The issue is just in finding a Sisters player who is looking to sell, which means you may have to expand your horizons when looking for people selling (Bartertown, dakka swap shop, librarium online "lobay", craigslist, etc). Even ask around your gaming group, most larger groups usually have some player who fondly remembers the days of the Witch Hunters codex with a group of Adepta Sororitas on the shelf at home collecting dust. The only place I avoid is ebay because generally it's retailers selling the models used who tend to charge high "Buy It Now" prices, not the sellers auctioning the items directly.

You may have to buy a few models from GW to plug the gaps, particularly special/heavy weapons that you weren't able to find used. I recommend you avoid buying the "one click collection" bundles as there is no price saving compared to just buying the models you want individually. The only kit I do recommend purchasing direct from gee-dub is the Immolator kit. It comes with enough Sisters do-dads and banners to easily sisterfy a razorback or rhino (both of which can commonly be found used from Spess Mahrine players). Exorcists can also be easily converted from Whirlwinds, and useless Storm bolter sisters (which you may end up with a few of if you buy used bundles) are easily converted to meltagun girls through the addition of a standard spess mahrine melta nozzle.

In short, Sisters are no more expensive than any other army, they just take some patience and a bit of hunting to spot the bargains. And as a player, I love my Sisters. They're unique, they're fun, and they're unlike any other army in 40k. Cheers!
   
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 phatonic wrote:
The question is simple.

Does this song appeal to you?




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bkde wrote:
As a Sisters player, perhaps I'm biased, but just to quell some of the rumours regarding the models.

Yes, Sisters can be expensive if you buy them direct from GW. The trick is, don't buy them new. Sisters have this unique property in the fact that all the models are made of metal. What this means to you as a second hand buyer, is that even if they're painted horrendously in gobs and gobs of paint, they're easy to strip down to base metal as purchased condition (yay acetone!).

The issue is just in finding a Sisters player who is looking to sell, which means you may have to expand your horizons when looking for people selling (Bartertown, dakka swap shop, librarium online "lobay", craigslist, etc). Even ask around your gaming group, most larger groups usually have some player who fondly remembers the days of the Witch Hunters codex with a group of Adepta Sororitas on the shelf at home collecting dust. The only place I avoid is ebay because generally it's retailers selling the models used who tend to charge high "Buy It Now" prices, not the sellers auctioning the items directly.

You may have to buy a few models from GW to plug the gaps, particularly special/heavy weapons that you weren't able to find used. I recommend you avoid buying the "one click collection" bundles as there is no price saving compared to just buying the models you want individually. The only kit I do recommend purchasing direct from gee-dub is the Immolator kit. It comes with enough Sisters do-dads and banners to easily sisterfy a razorback or rhino (both of which can commonly be found used from Spess Mahrine players). Exorcists can also be easily converted from Whirlwinds, and useless Storm bolter sisters (which you may end up with a few of if you buy used bundles) are easily converted to meltagun girls through the addition of a standard spess mahrine melta nozzle.

In short, Sisters are no more expensive than any other army, they just take some patience and a bit of hunting to spot the bargains. And as a player, I love my Sisters. They're unique, they're fun, and they're unlike any other army in 40k. Cheers!


Exalted my friend

Orks are super cool and fun as well.

(I play both)

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Spoiler; the orks in that video are far more orky than orks on the table these days

Orks can be a cheap as hell army to collect, due to the vast quantity of AoBR Orks available second hand. Buy these, buy bits, and your good to go. Buy toy tanks, convert them with spikes and gak, and bam you have an army

My Killa Bursta superheavy tank cost me five bucks. Doesn't look as good as a $200 forgeworld model but looks good enough and was five frikken bucks
   
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 Dakkamite wrote:
Spoiler; the orks in that video are far more orky than orks on the table these days

Orks can be a cheap as hell army to collect, due to the vast quantity of AoBR Orks available second hand. Buy these, buy bits, and your good to go. Buy toy tanks, convert them with spikes and gak, and bam you have an army

My Killa Bursta superheavy tank cost me five bucks. Doesn't look as good as a $200 forgeworld model but looks good enough and was five frikken bucks


Dakkamite.. i demand pics!

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Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)

 
   
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 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:
Looking at the sisters models, I dunno, they just seem kinda... ugly. The faces just seem kinda malformed.

Have you seen them in person (as opposed to only through pictures, I mean) ? I think the basic sisters do not look that great, but they are okay-ish to give a mass effect, while some of the Sister Superiors are really beautiful. Especially the one aiming the bolter, I LOVE this model.
One solution for you, I guess, would be to play IG with Sisters allies. Then you will not have to get too many of those basic sisters, and you will be able to field cool stuff like Celestine, some Seraphims, maybe an exorcist.
Also, it depends on which level of competitiveness you want to achieve.

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I'd dig through the other suppliers and look for models that can be decently converted to SoB but I've never seen any.

Orks are allways nice but wait for the new dex and hopefully some new kits.

Just look at that new truck for the stormtroopers or whatever militarum tempestus is supposed to be. Thats a shiny new battlewagon right there.

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Orks.

Armies:  
   
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Waaaghpower wrote:
Do you mind your army being expensive, heavy as hell, bad in high points games, and having about half a dozen viable units? If not, then play Sisters.

Do you mind having the oldest available codex, needing to paint hundreds of models, being unsure what the rules are going to be for them, and playing an assault army in a shooty edition? If not, then play Orks.


Ok, I actually laughed out loud at this

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 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Waaaghpower wrote:
Do you mind your army being expensive, heavy as hell, bad in high points games, and having about half a dozen viable units? If not, then play Sisters.

Do you mind having the oldest available codex, needing to paint hundreds of models, being unsure what the rules are going to be for them, and playing an assault army in a shooty edition? If not, then play Orks.


Ok, I actually laughed out loud at this

I play both armies, so I've clearly got some issues...
   
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Waaaghpower wrote:

I play both armies, so I've clearly got some issues...


I should hope so, pretty hard to play your fliers without the right ones!



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Waaaghpower wrote:
 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Waaaghpower wrote:
Do you mind your army being expensive, heavy as hell, bad in high points games, and having about half a dozen viable units? If not, then play Sisters.

Do you mind having the oldest available codex, needing to paint hundreds of models, being unsure what the rules are going to be for them, and playing an assault army in a shooty edition? If not, then play Orks.


Ok, I actually laughed out loud at this

I play both armies, so I've clearly got some issues...


Me too.

You wouldn't happen to be a fellow masochist would you?

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If you play sisters, you can get rhino's and (as mentioned) whirlwinds for exorcists and make them sisters. At the time I didn't have any bits, so I used paint jobs to make them Sister-ish.
Spoiler:

Spoiler:




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 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:
Also, screaming "DEATH TO THE HERETIC!" and "PURGE THE UNCLEAN!" is a major plus for the sisters, though it will sound increadibly awkward for me to voice them being male.

I can tell you from experience that this is perfectly acceptable for both men and women to shout whenever they roast up some crispy, crispy heretics

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2200 points of SoB and Inquisition (40K)
1000 points of orks (40K)
Just starting out with Ultramarines (30K)
Four 1000-2500 point forces for WHFB (RIP)
One orc team (Blood Bowl) 
   
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 MWHistorian wrote:
If you play sisters, you can get rhino's and (as mentioned) whirlwinds for exorcists and make them sisters. At the time I didn't have any bits, so I used paint jobs to make them Sister-ish.
Spoiler:

Spoiler:



Ooh nice. Needs more fire though


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 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:
I plan to run a second army along side my nids, and narrowed it down to Orks or Sisters, which do you think? Are orks going to be similar to nids?
Also, screaming "DEATH TO THE HERETIC!" and "PURGE THE UNCLEAN!" is a major plus for the sisters, though it will sound increadibly awkward for me to voice them being male.


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 MrFlutterPie wrote:
Waaaghpower wrote:
 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Waaaghpower wrote:
Do you mind your army being expensive, heavy as hell, bad in high points games, and having about half a dozen viable units? If not, then play Sisters.

Do you mind having the oldest available codex, needing to paint hundreds of models, being unsure what the rules are going to be for them, and playing an assault army in a shooty edition? If not, then play Orks.


Ok, I actually laughed out loud at this

I play both armies, so I've clearly got some issues...


Me too.

You wouldn't happen to be a fellow masochist would you?


I started Orks in early 5th mainly because of thrift, (Cheap as hell thanks to AoBR,) and Sisters of Battle because I won too much at my LGS.
   
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I say play sisters and burn the heretics!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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I assume we're talking pure armies here.

Sisters of Battle are pretty cool. I have won more tournies with them than any other army, even my Tau who are my first love and will always be.

However the Sisters of Battle bring, effectively, a Veteran IG army in power army and a lot of close range firepower (8" to 12" is their ideal range). It requires a tactician to play them since they canot just sit and fire like some armies have the luxury of doing. They must be active and involved in the action start to finish. They scare the willies out of enemies on their turn. They take it in the face on the enemies turn. I find this a pretty satisfying game experience to have because who doesn't like to see an opponents smirkl replaced with furrowed brow and concern? Lol. On my turn Ive already planned for the losses I'll take, found the calculation acceptable and have positioned myself to increase enemy concern once they finish. =)


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 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:
 MWHistorian wrote:
Go with the one you want most, but keep in mind that Sisters minis are very expensive compared to other armies and you'll have a hard time collecting them. But then you'll get an army that few others play and will be unique.

Orks, wait for the new codex.

Looking at the sisters models, I dunno, they just seem kinda... ugly. The faces just seem kinda malformed. Also, if they are moslty metal, that is a very big issue for me considering I dont have money or know how to paint metal.
Now that I think about it, IG also appeals to me. I love the WW2 look, and they arent even that "Burn the heretic" for an Imperium army (Which is what I hate about Space Marines, and the over the topness of the sisters is what I love). The orks has the be for the energetic nature of them, but I guess that wont really be felt on the table-top.


You paint metal just like you would plastic, though you first spray on a coating of primer (available from anywhere you buy paint in spray cans for a couple bucks, at the most). One can of primer will last you for scores of models, even big ones. Use white primer to make the later colors of paint you use to seem brighter, black primer for the opposite effect.

After the primer dries, you paint the models as you would any plastic model.

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You paint metal just like you would plastic, though you first spray on a coating of primer (available from anywhere you buy paint in spray cans for a couple bucks, at the most). One can of primer will last you for scores of models, even big ones. Use white primer to make the later colors of paint you use to seem brighter, black primer for the opposite effect.

After the primer dries, you paint the models as you would any plastic model.


Just to comment on this further, primer should be used when painting ALL surfaces, not just metal. Plastic models love primer too. Cheers!
   
 
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