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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:11:55
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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If only I still played Fantasy.
Looks pretty good so far, my only issue is that the sample 'Knight' looks out of proportion (I think his forearms are too long).
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:27:59
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Serious Squig Herder
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Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.
Also in the FAQ on the bases:
" Bases will be compatible with motion bases aswell. "
What are motion bases? Is that a fancy term for "movement tray?"
And it looks like the first 3 regiments are unlock from the get go, and the 75k "goal" actually just unlocks the first stretch goal? - So maybe the goal should just be "allow us to produce these first 4 regiments." And then stretch goals from there.
Looking very good overall though. Excited to see how this works out and how the game expands in the future.
*cough* make dwarves next *cough*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:33:42
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Schmapdi wrote:Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.
Also in the FAQ on the bases:
" Bases will be compatible with motion bases aswell. "
What are motion bases? Is that a fancy term for "movement tray?"
And it looks like the first 3 regiments are unlock from the get go, and the 75k "goal" actually just unlocks the first stretch goal? - So maybe the goal should just be "allow us to produce these first 4 regiments." And then stretch goals from there.
Looking very good overall though. Excited to see how this works out and how the game expands in the future.
*cough* make dwarves next *cough*
Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.
btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:
please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.
Palindrome wrote:If only I still played Fantasy.
Looks pretty good so far, my only issue is that the sample 'Knight' looks out of proportion (I think his forearms are too long).
Hi Palindrome, I can assure you that its not out of proportion, I uploaded a video of this exact model for you so you can check by yourself: https://vimeo.com/89806955
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:45:44
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:52:37
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.
Butting into someone's KS thread to advertise a different company is just really bad form.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 22:53:33
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:08:48
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?
I really like the look of the miniatures though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:11:28
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:16:52
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Yodhrin wrote:
Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.
Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.
corgan wrote:Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...
Coolminiornot is handling their US shipping, maybe that's it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:27:53
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Serious Squig Herder
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Haste Games wrote:Schmapdi wrote:Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.
Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.
btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:
please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.
Sure - it looks like this:
That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:31:09
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Schmapdi wrote:That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?
The problem is that they used spaces instead of a line break, as you can see here:
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:56:32
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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AlexHolker wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.
Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.
They're not the same scale at all, and if you don't fancy the product you can feel free to not back the KS. How would you like it if you were trying to start a business and some numpty stood outside telling all your potential new customers to go shop down the road at the guy that sells a cheapo version of your product? Justify it all you like, you're pulling a  move and you know it.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:04:10
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?
I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing
JoeRugby wrote:Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?
We will show comparison pics showing measurements.
Alpharius wrote:This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?
I really like the look of the miniatures though...
Having two-thirds of the regiments locked may lead to confusion. There are regiments composed of 10,15 and 20 units. You can select which regiments you want.
Anyways, we can't give huge discounts at the beginning but once we get a healthy pledge we will give discounts in form of free boxes or single units.
btw, we added extra units to some regiments since some people were complaining, so we are doing our best about that.
corgan wrote:Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...
Its because the deal that CMON offered to us but we will reduce the price to $12 same as UK to not have anyone discontent, I think its the maximum we can adjust right now. Its not the same pricing at the beginning than if all regiments would be unlocked already because all mold production would be assured and we could give discounts to everybody in an equitative way or even free boxes ( which its what we have planned to do once all regiments are unlocked )
Schmapdi wrote: Haste Games wrote:Schmapdi wrote:Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.
Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.
btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:
please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.
We will show pictures showing measurements.
Sure - it looks like this:
That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?
Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:13:54
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Haste Games wrote:Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?
I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing
JoeRugby wrote:Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?
We will show comparison pics showing measurements.
Alpharius wrote:This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?
I really like the look of the miniatures though...
Having two-thirds of the regiments locked may lead to confusion. There are regiments composed of 10,15 and 20 units. You can select which regiments you want.
Anyways, we can't give huge discounts at the beginning but once we get a healthy pledge we will give discounts in form of free boxes or single units.
btw, we added extra units to some regiments since some people were complaining, so we are doing our best about that.
corgan wrote:Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...
Its because the deal that CMON offered to us but we will reduce the price to $12 same as UK to not have anyone discontent, I think its the maximum we can adjust right now. Its not the same pricing at the beginning than if all regiments would be unlocked already because all mold production would be assured and we could give discounts to everybody in an equitative way or even free boxes ( which its what we have planned to do once all regiments are unlocked )
Schmapdi wrote: Haste Games wrote:Schmapdi wrote:Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.
Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.
btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:
please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.
We will show pictures showing measurements.
Sure - it looks like this:
That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?
Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.
Thanks for the explanation on the shipping costs and your efforts of reducing prices and add to the regiments.
May I ask the exact time of the launch of the KS?
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:14:54
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yodhrin wrote:
Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.
Butting into someone's KS thread to advertise a different company is just really bad form.
Exactly, and I must say that it seem like those mini are miles better than the perry's one, so I can live with the price
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:17:00
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Regular Dakkanaut
Uppsala, Sweden
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I really dig the look of these minis, and would like a few for use in my RPGing (mostly Warhammer Fantasy RPG). The KS campaign seems extremely focused on building armies, though, so it doesn't really look like it will suit my interests. Or will there be some way of picking up anything less than 15 of that swordsman (for example)?
I also think the target goals look really, really high. $75K to fund the first three regiments and $375K to unlock all nine regiments are pretty big numbers when it comes to miniature KS's. It may very well cost that much to produce them, I just worry that the demand will not be that great, however nice the minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:33:06
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Fresh-Faced New User
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We have reduced all prices, don't see this as a weak movement by us. Now it will be harder for you guys to unlock all the regiments since the price value of plastic injection molds doesn't change. Its just because we received too many complaints about price.
Trodax wrote:I really dig the look of these minis, and would like a few for use in my RPGing (mostly Warhammer Fantasy RPG). The KS campaign seems extremely focused on building armies, though, so it doesn't really look like it will suit my interests. Or will there be some way of picking up anything less than 15 of that swordsman (for example)?
I also think the target goals look really, really high. $75K to fund the first three regiments and $375K to unlock all nine regiments are pretty big numbers when it comes to miniature KS's. It may very well cost that much to produce them, I just worry that the demand will not be that great, however nice the minis.
There will be lots of single fantasy units. Some of the regiments are less than 15 units anyways.
$75k for plastic injection molds for 3 regiments is half the price we would need, considering that we will invest $75k from our own budget it turns to be quite cheap.
@corgan:
16:00 for Germany
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:47:54
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Haste Games wrote:Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?
I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing
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Thanks.
That seems like a fair price.
Comparing it to various other models/games
War games Factory Zombie Survivors - 22.00 for 30 figures (00.74 a pop)
GW Greatswords - 41.25 for 10 figures (4.10 a pop)
Mantic Games BASILEAN PALADINS 24.73 for 10 (2.47 a pop)
Perry Miniatures War of the Roses Mercs - 40 figures for 33.00 (00.83 a pop)
AoW Dwarf gunners 12 figures for 53.80 (4.48 a pop)
AoW Berserkers 20 figures for 50.00 (2.50 a pop)
Haste Games Empire Knights 10 figures for 28.00 (2.80 a pop)
Note: Prices are from the company's website and not a discount place. Other things that may or may not be a factor for you in regards to the prices of various models from companies I posted.
Material made of
Level of customization
Quality of sculpt
*Insert something else here
Did my best in comparing the price of a box of multiple plastic figures from several companies. GW's greatswrds and Mantics Paladins would be the best comparison IMO. Cheaper than GW. a Few pennies more than Mantic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 00:52:01
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Stoic Grail Knight
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AlexHolker wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.
Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.
An outfit change and a scale change. Scale and compatibility is important. The Perry WOTR stuff looks tiny on the table compared to anything else in the Warhammer universe, and most other fantasy miniatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 01:16:03
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Maybe I missed it, but who will be making the actual plastics?
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 01:19:08
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi Tannhauser42, plastics will be made by a manufacturer associated with Haste Games which has no relation with CMON
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 01:21:01
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Serious Squig Herder
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Haste Games wrote:
Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.
Yep - looks fine now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 01:44:05
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Cool, thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 02:09:35
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Haste Games,
In your rules, will units be activated one by one alternating between players?
Or do players move and attack with their entire army? IGOUGO system.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 02:30:40
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Looks very interesting. I like the aesthetic. I'll be keeping an eye on this, and I feel my Mercs pledge may be getting pulled also.
Haste Games, do you have any examples of the completed work from the plastic company that you will be using?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 08:09:55
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [ March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter]
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Gallahad wrote:
An outfit change and a scale change. Scale and compatibility is important. The Perry WOTR stuff looks tiny on the table compared to anything else in the Warhammer universe, and most other fantasy miniatures.
Which is a good thing considering that Humans tend to be smaller than most other fantasy races. I also prefer realistic proportions.
Its possible that these can be compatible with the Perry's WotR stuff though, Swordsmen are difficult to do with the Perry's stuff.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 10:04:54
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Azazelx wrote:Looks very interesting. I like the aesthetic. I'll be keeping an eye on this, and I feel my Mercs pledge may be getting pulled also.
Haste Games, do you have any examples of the completed work from the plastic company that you will be using?
I'd second the request for some examples of the plastic company's previous work. There have unfortunately been several companys who's models have been let down by poor production. Putting in a large pledge with a year to wait would be much easier if I could be reassured that the resulting models were not going to turn out to be plastic blobs on a sprue. Everything else looks good especially the style and proportions of the figures and I'll definitely consider the gold earlybird if you could avert these fears.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 11:19:57
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> check out the preview
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@Azazelx @edlowe
Hi guys, our mold manufacturer has worked for modelism companies, I uploaded a sample of their work:
Hope this helps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 13:30:31
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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That looks like the 1/72 Tiger model kit from Trumpeter. Here's an assembled version with a aftermarket barrel and a metal hatch handle added:
Am I right?
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 13:36:33
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I don't know - but I knew the Detectives on Dakka Dakka would sort it out once a sprue pic was posted!
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