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Oh, dear Imperator, Sophi, please format your posts properly! You're quoting your own mistakes and attacking the spelling errors now! Or at least, that's how that post reads.

The Ecclesiarchy were founded years before the Ordo Hereticus and the Adepta Sororitas - about five thousand years before them, in fact. The OH and the AS were formed in M.36 as watchdogs to make sure the Ecclesiarchy didn't overstep its bounds again.

Why are you even quoting a huge block of text about the Sisters anyway?! They're completely irrelevant to the thread, Oxy and Hari's romance aside!

The Inquisition are not religiously inclined as an organisation. Their role is to seek out corruption within the Imperium. On top of that, membership of the Ordos is a purely political thing within the Inquisition itself. To the average Citizen, there is no such thing as an "Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor", there is just an Inquisitor. Xenos inquisitors spend as much time hunting chaos relics as they do genestealer cults, and Hereticus inquisitors are actually more likely to discover a daemon cult than they are to find a Cardinal diverting funds into recidivist groups.

Without the Ecclesiarchy, the Imperium would have fallen apart and become warring planetary empires within a few decades. Without the Inquisition, the Imperium would have lost millions of worlds to rebellion, daemon invasion, and rampant mutation that rendered its citizens no longer human.

sophiteem wrote:
Since you want to be Anal about my spelling

No, it is more about the massive misconceptions. That was just the icing.

sophiteem wrote:
lets quote the lexicanum

Your quote says the Ordo Hereticus is watching and policing the Ecclersiarchy. It does not say anywhere they are religious. And that is only one of the Ordo.
Fact : the Inquisition is not a religious organization.
Fact : there is absolutely no hint that the creation of the Inquisition and the creation of the Ecclersiarchy are linked in any way, but there are plenty of hint that points to them having absolutely no relation whatsoever.
Fact : the Ordo Hereticus was founded way, way after the Ecclesiarchy was founded, after the Apostasy.

sophiteem wrote:
Ordo xenos would really be the non religious one out of all of them.

False.
An Inquisitor from the Ordo Xenos may be very religious. An Inquisitor from the Ordo Hereticus may not even believe in the divinity of the Emperor. The difference between them is what threat they focus on, not what they believe. The Ordo Hereticus will focus on treason from within the Imperium, the Ordo Xenos on, well, Xenos threats.

sophiteem wrote:
I could cast the same insult at you as being a fan confusing what the Emperor would with what you would like.

You could, but I have better arguments .

You sure like your passive-aggressive orkmoticons.

Actually, before quoting lexicanum, I suggest you read the HH Sourcebooks "Betrayal" and "Massacre"

In those books each of the traitor legions at Istvaan III have loyalists numbering between 1/5 to 1/3 of the forces available.

Horus killed a lot of good marines.

If there were "hardly any" as you propose, then the months long battle by the loyalists holding the ruined city shows some pretty severe incompetence on the part of Horus and co....

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

sophiteem wrote:
lets quote the lexicanum

Your quote says the Ordo Hereticus is watching and policing the Ecclersiarchy. It does not say anywhere they are religious. And that is only one of the Ordo.
Fact : the Inquisition is not a religious organization.

While the Inquisition itself is not a religious organisation you can easily assume the vast majority (if not all) claim to worship the Emperor as a deity at least in public. Even Inquisitors aren't stupid or protected enough that they can spout heresy in a public way (Although if you ask Puritans there's a distinct possibility they will say what Radical Inquisitors do is heresy)

Additionally, while the Inquisition may not be a priesthood, if an Imperial Guard (Astra Militarum?) high officer proclaims he does not believe in the Emperor's divinity, you can expect problems. Inquisitors are not crusaders, but they are Inquisitors. If people cease to believe, this creates dissension. Dissension is not good for the Imperium.

 Endriu Death Coy wrote:
Actually, before quoting lexicanum, I suggest you read the HH Sourcebooks "Betrayal" and "Massacre"

CBA. It really does not seem interesting to me.
But marines being incompetent does not seem so impossible to me.

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
While the Inquisition itself is not a religious organisation you can easily assume the vast majority (if not all) claim to worship the Emperor as a deity at least in public.

Yeah, so ? Do not forget the context. Sophiteem was explaining to the world how the Emperor would disband the Inquisition because they were religious nutcase. By that logic, he would have to disband the Imperial Guard too .

Going by more recent sources,a huge chunk of all four legions at the Ishtvaan betrayal (DG, LW, EC, and WE) were loyalists (or suspected loyalists) that were purged at ishtvaan, regardless of what older canon says (not that I'm sure Lexi is getting its info from old canon anyways). Forge World and the BL novels make it very clear (explicitly stated in the Forge World books, in fact) and never anywhere was it mentioned in either of those sources that some of the loyalists from legions there outnumbered the others THAT much.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Endriu Death Coy wrote:
Actually, before quoting lexicanum, I suggest you read the HH Sourcebooks "Betrayal" and "Massacre"

CBA. It really does not seem interesting to me.
But marines being incompetent does not seem so impossible to me.

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
While the Inquisition itself is not a religious organisation you can easily assume the vast majority (if not all) claim to worship the Emperor as a deity at least in public.

Yeh, so ? Do not forget the context. Sophiteem was explaining to the world how the Emperor would disband the Inquisition because they were religious nutcase. By that logic, he would have to disband the Imperial Guard too .

you say context but I never once said they would be disbanded. The Emperor did not disband the Word Bearers. I said this>>>> "The Astartes are his children so no they would not be
disbanded. The Smurfs would get a spanking then the
Inquisition would be treated like the word bearers for being
fanatical boobs." <<<<< Also I admitted I can not spell. I was not anal about the spelling like you for in the end as players and fans we can have all the opinions we want but its GW that decides what is cannon and not cannon even with all the damn conflicts in the lore. All the BL writers have chapters or armies that they are partial to and its evident that they will change the lore to suit their partiality. ie Ward and Gotto.

sophiteem wrote:
I said this>>>> "The Astartes are his children so no they would not be
disbanded. The Smurfs would get a spanking then the
Inquisition would be treated like the word bearers for being
fanatical boobs." <<<<<

Yeah. Unlike the Word Bearer, the Inquisition is not fanatical boobs. The comparison it totally off.

sophiteem wrote:
Also I admitted I can not spell. I was not anal about the spelling like you

I do not care about your spelling, goddammit.