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**mikhaila**

Matt1785 wrote:
I still think the idea of FW being sold at a GW store or ordered with free delivery to a GW store is a pipe dream, a very large pipe dream.

Why would GW all of a sudden eat the shipping cost? Even if FW were to be carried in a GW stores, don't expect the full range, more like 'The 10 most popular items' kind of thing.

and yet they already did this for years, and quit in the last couple.

**ironicsilence**

mikhaila wrote:
Matt1785 wrote:
I still think the idea of FW being sold at a GW store or ordered with free delivery to a GW store is a pipe dream, a very large pipe dream.

Why would GW all of a sudden eat the shipping cost? Even if FW were to be carried in a GW stores, don't expect the full range, more like 'The 10 most popular items' kind of thing.

and yet they already did this for years, and quit in the last couple.

if i remember correctly, it took what? I week or two for the items to make it to the store, even though you "placed" your order at the store, I suspect either the store would only place 1 actual order a week for all customer orders or FW would only ship out once a week so i think its safe to assume the store order in general would prolly hit the FW free shipping limit

**Peregrine**

slk28850 wrote:
I understand what you're saying. If I don't go to my store it would cost about the same. Thing is I go to my local store anyway so there is no extra gas fee.

But your local store isn't going to get free shipping to the store or any discount, so the only reason to buy FW stuff through a local store would be to give the local store a charity donation for letting you use their tables.

(I'm assuming your local store is an independent store, since no sane person would willingly spend significant time in a GW store if there's any alternative.)

**Marshal Loss**

Absolutely horrified by this, if regional pricing for Australia means that we get the ridiculous 'tax for no reason' on top of the already high price of Forge World, it could slam a door shut on my Horus Heresy collection. If it's just converted straight into AUD, no problem...but GW has never done that before. Really worried.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Marshal Loss wrote:
Absolutely horrified by this, if regional pricing for Australia means that we get the ridiculous 'tax for no reason' on top of the already high price of Forge World, it could slam a door shut on my Horus Heresy collection. If it's just converted straight into AUD, no problem...but GW has never done that before. Really worried.

+1. If FW gets absurdly high Australian pricing, it will pretty much stop me buying any more FW stuff.

**CthuluIsSpy**

insaniak wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Afterall, what's the point of uploading PDFs, if the site is going to be remade anyway?

I'm not seeing the connection there.

Well, if the site is going to remade and moved around, wouldn't the attachment uploads have to be removed as well?
I admit I am not that that well versed in web design.

**Bull0**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
insaniak wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Afterall, what's the point of uploading PDFs, if the site is going to be remade anyway?

I'm not seeing the connection there.

Well, if the site is going to remade and moved around, wouldn't the attachment uploads have to be removed as well?
I admit I am not that that well versed in web design.

No, this isn't really a thing. If you're simply talking about downloadable PDFs there's no technical limitation/reason stopping you making those same files available on a new website, even if you move between architectures (eg php to asp). PDFs aren't compiled or anything.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Bull0 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
insaniak wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Afterall, what's the point of uploading PDFs, if the site is going to be remade anyway?

I'm not seeing the connection there.

Well, if the site is going to remade and moved around, wouldn't the attachment uploads have to be removed as well?
I admit I am not that that well versed in web design.

No, this isn't really a thing. If you're simply talking about downloadable PDFs there's no technical limitation/reason stopping you making those same files available on a new website, even if you move between architectures (eg php to asp). PDFs aren't compiled or anything.

I didn't mean permanently removed, I meant they would have to upload them again after the redesign.
Of course, it probably doesn't work like that.

**AllSeeingSkink**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Bull0 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
insaniak wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Afterall, what's the point of uploading PDFs, if the site is going to be remade anyway?

I'm not seeing the connection there.

Well, if the site is going to remade and moved around, wouldn't the attachment uploads have to be removed as well?
I admit I am not that that well versed in web design.

No, this isn't really a thing. If you're simply talking about downloadable PDFs there's no technical limitation/reason stopping you making those same files available on a new website, even if you move between architectures (eg php to asp). PDFs aren't compiled or anything.

I didn't mean permanently removed, I meant they would have to upload them again after the redesign.
Of course, it probably doesn't work like that.

Uploading a couple of megabytes worth of files and creating links to them is mostly trivial.

**insaniak**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Uploading a couple of megabytes worth of files and creating links to them is mostly trivial.

Particularly since their website software would most likely be creating the links anyway. So it's just a matter of uploading the files again, assuming that they can't just re-use the same links as they have now, which is also possible.

**Ravenous D**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Marshal Loss wrote:
Absolutely horrified by this, if regional pricing for Australia means that we get the ridiculous 'tax for no reason' on top of the already high price of Forge World, it could slam a door shut on my Horus Heresy collection. If it's just converted straight into AUD, no problem...but GW has never done that before. Really worried.
+1. If FW gets absurdly high Australian pricing, it will pretty much stop me buying any more FW stuff.

Well, I hate to break it to you guys but that is probably how it is going to be. However it is not all doom.

When I worked for the great enemy we had all the forge world items in the computer and what their regional prices were, so you could order it through a GW store (or at the time games day) at the regional set price. Or just order it through the FW site and get it at whatever exchange was (which was much lower).

**Zygrot24**

Not that my word is worth much, and not trying to become a rumor monger here, but this lines up with what I was told by someon that attended the recent management meeting in Texas.

They also told me that the US warehouse contains FW, and that his impression of the very little info he got from GW higher ups was that FW would be in-store or at least shippable to stores. Exciting!

**AllSeeingSkink**

Ravenous D wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Marshal Loss wrote:
Absolutely horrified by this, if regional pricing for Australia means that we get the ridiculous 'tax for no reason' on top of the already high price of Forge World, it could slam a door shut on my Horus Heresy collection. If it's just converted straight into AUD, no problem...but GW has never done that before. Really worried.
+1. If FW gets absurdly high Australian pricing, it will pretty much stop me buying any more FW stuff.

Well, I hate to break it to you guys but that is probably how it is going to be. However it is not all doom.

When I worked for the great enemy we had all the forge world items in the computer and what their regional prices were, so you could order it through a GW store (or at the time games day) at the regional set price. Or just order it through the FW site and get it at whatever exchange was (which was much lower).

Except if they combine the websites themselves, it will probably mean that we can no longer order direct from FW UK and will have to order through the Australian FW equivalent with Australian prices, the same as we do now.

Back in the day you used to be able to order direct from GW UK and have them ship it to Australia

How times have changed.

**krazynadechukr**

Yes. A month ago I posted a thread about this. Memphis will stock the fw & bl stuff, GW stores downloading new cr software, and GW website combining fw an bl into one. Have a nice day!

**Fireball**

I like how all Horus Heresy stuff is organized on the FW website ... hopefully GW will not screw that up

**Kroothawk**

Just for the record, here some pics found by natfka that supposedly show the new website design:

No FW in sight here, also no Specialist games. The latter no wonder as GW USA customer service officially confirmed last week that Specialist Games are discontinued:
http://www.miniwargaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=109537&view=unread#unread

Also:
http://natfka.blogspot.de/2014/03/the-games-workshop-new-website.html

several anonymous sources on faeit212 wrote:New Website
New website is more streamlined. A lot of faster, drop down menus to direct you faster to your selection.
Indicators on items: Delayed shipping due to stock level, Direct Order Only, Limited Availability.

Black Library
Black Library: Digital Editions are purchasable in stores. Essentially allowing stores to benefit from the purchase of Digital Editions. Customer essentially purchases at Order Point, pays in store, and can go to tablet (laptop, etc) and download.

Forgeworld
Forge World tab is missing from the new test site. Currently Forge World is still at the bottom of the page, giving a link to their main website.
- Speculated that this is going to be the norm until production levels or distribution centers are increased.
- Speculation that a tab will be launched with new website but GW is remaining silent, considering non-disclosure agreements.

The way it is sounding, is that the new website is just upgraded software with a few bells and whistles; nothing screaming revolutionary. I am cautious on the Forge World part now, it still seems likely but increase in demand (due to easier shipping) would result in needing: More personnel to meet production demand, people need to realize that Forge World is practically a made to order company, they do not have the production capacity or staff levels of GW (in fact they are at about 25% the size).

In other words: GW fears that FW would sell like crazy, so they stopped the plan, avoiding an unwanted rise in revenue.
Or this part of the rumour was crap from the start

**AegisGrimm**

Wonder if we get a price hike to celebrate them putting a new layout and fonts on the webstore?

**Kroothawk**

Or GW will try to collect a monthly fee for the privilige to buy at their webstore

**l0k1**

Kroothawk wrote:
Or GW will try to collect a monthly fee for the privilige to buy at their webstore

Shhhh!!!! They'll hear you!

**StormKing**

WAIT
If there are no specialist games (in the sections) do you think I should just go download as much of the rules and stuff for Mordhiem etc???

**AlexHolker**

chiefbigredman wrote:
WAIT
If there are no specialist games (in the sections) do you think I should just go download as much of the rules and stuff for Mordhiem etc???

Yes, you should.

In fact, here are the links.

**StormKing**

AlexHolker wrote:
chiefbigredman wrote:
WAIT
If there are no specialist games (in the sections) do you think I should just go download as much of the rules and stuff for Mordhiem etc???

Yes, you should.

In fact, here are the links.

Seriously tho thanks for the link (it is so hard to find all that stuff on the GW site right now it's ridiculous

**AegisGrimm**

Yes, please DL all the Specialist games PDF's. They are all awesome games, and I'm quite sure that with the new site launch they will take the opportunity to erase all traces of the Specialist games stuff from existence.

**Jadenim**

chiefbigredman wrote:
WAIT
If there are no specialist games (in the sections) do you think I should just go download as much of the rules and stuff for Mordhiem etc???

I went and did this a couple of weeks back as I'm still pissed that a bunch of the Apocalypse data sheets disappeared without warning. And don't get me started on all the free modelling and conversion articles they used to have (CoD modular terrain, how to build a Land Raider Ares, anyone?!)

**Allod**

Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record, here some pics found by natfka that supposedly show the new website design:

<snip>

"Hey GW, the 90s called, they want their webstore design back!"

I mean, seriously, I get it's just a webstore, and I haven't even used it since the bits service went away, but could they possibly have made this any more bland?

Also, is it only me or does it look like they even did away with their news section (that pseudo-blog thingy, whatever it is called)?

**Peregrine**

Allod wrote:
Also, is it only me or does it look like they even did away with their news section (that pseudo-blog thingy, whatever it is called)?

Why provide news for free when you can put it in White™ Dwarf™ Weekly™?

**Bull0**

Allod wrote:

Also, is it only me or does it look like they even did away with their news section (that pseudo-blog thingy, whatever it is called)?

Ah, it's about time they got rid of what's new today / white dwarf daily / terrible terrible time. It's been awful for ages. I actually won't be sorry to see it go - it's just kind of a bitter reminder of how something like that could be done really well, but GW aren't remotely interested in doing it well

**Allod**

Peregrine wrote:
Why provide news for free when you can put it in White™ Dwarf™ Weekly™?

Of course, how could I ever forget this pinnacle of news media! Silly me.

Bull0 wrote:
Ah, it's about time they got rid of what's new today / white dwarf daily / terrible terrible time. It's been awful for ages. I actually won't be sorry to see it go - it's just kind of a bitter reminder of how something like that could be done really well, but GW aren't remotely interested in doing it well

I agree wholeheartedly, I just find this implicit admission of their own incompetence slightly embarassing.

**Shamanlord1961**

Something to look at, the new Imperial Gaurd, Astra Militarium or whatever they want to call it, comes out early April, has its new pretty name and the website launches on the 7th, which is probably shortly after the new IG with thier name change. Why is it still called Imperial Gaurd in the lefthand column? It's not translation, they have "Adeptis Sororitis" on there. I call fake, someone giving everyone a nice ride but didn't read up.

**Bull0**

Allod wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly, I just find this implicit admission of their own incompetence slightly embarassing.

"Slightly embarrassing" could be their new motto at this point =(

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Shamanlord1961 wrote:
Something to look at, the new Imperial Gaurd, Astra Militarium or whatever they want to call it, comes out early April, has its new pretty name and the website launches on the 7th, which is probably shortly after the new IG with thier name change. Why is it still called Imperial Gaurd in the lefthand column? It's not translation, they have "Adeptis Sororitis" on there. I call fake, someone giving everyone a nice ride but didn't read up.

Actually yeah, that's a good point.