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Creeperman wrote:
Didn't they quit social media before, when attracting bad press over Spots the Space Marine? Sticking their heads into the sand and removing all ability to comment seems to be their default response to any negative publicity

Just for the record: GW main quit facebook a while ago, when their facebook page was flooded with negative comments on their legal action against "Spot the Space Marine".
A few days ago the facebook pages of GW Digital, Warhammer World and Forge World were deleted as well. This is what we are currently talking about, as esp. the GW Digital page was quite active and informative.

It's becoming more and more popular, which means we can reach more and more people with this very cost effective form of marketing-- cancel it immediately!

 Davespil wrote:
Man, if only there was a way I could communicate with the people at my FLGS without having to leave my house. Like, a little box that could convert my voice into a signal and send it to my FLGS who would have a similar magical device that could decode it. Science, get on it! Not only does my FLGS have such a device, they also offer a 25% and I don't have to pay shipping. Even if I couldn't get the 25% the free shipping alone and the fact that I go there regularly means it would be a good deal.

If only there was a way to read a post before making sarcastic comments on it, so that you wouldn't be embarrassed when you completely miss the point.

Most likely FW stuff is going to be direct-only, which means that if your FLGS can get it at all they're not going to get a retail discount. All you get is possibly a shipping discount, as long as you never order enough to get free shipping. And I was talking about GW stores mostly, not independent stores, and their ridiculous attempts to make "we'll let you use our computer to make the order" sound like an appealing offer.


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 frozenwastes wrote:
It's becoming more and more popular, which means we can reach more and more people with this very cost effective form of marketing-- cancel it immediately!

Remember, growing too quickly sets up unrealistic expectations for the next year. It's better to make sure you don't sell too much stuff at once, and effective social media marketing means a huge risk of doing that.

(And I wish I was just making that up.)

So Dakka thinks GW closed their facebook pages either because there was another massive scandal that it somehow completely missed, or because the pages were too successful.

Rather than the obvious conclusion that they'll relaunch their facebook presence after the new site launch in april.

Bastion of logic, this place

 Bull0 wrote:
Rather than the obvious conclusion that they'll relaunch their facebook presence after the new site launch in april.

That's not obvious at all, and isn't even very plausible. If you're going to re-launch soon you don't just close everything with no warning, you make big announcements about "coming soon, awesome new website" and "see you in a week" to build anticipation for the new stuff. In fact, why close them at all if it's just a re-launch? It's not like there's anything to be gained from doing so.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
Rather than the obvious conclusion that they'll relaunch their facebook presence after the new site launch in april.

That's not obvious at all, and isn't even very plausible. If you're going to re-launch soon you don't just close everything with no warning, you make big announcements about "coming soon, awesome new website" and "see you in a week" to build anticipation for the new stuff. In fact, why close them at all if it's just a re-launch? It's not like there's anything to be gained from doing so.

You really think the behaviour you just described is typical for GW? No. They keep everything secret until the last possible minute. They're totally opaque. Blustering into closing the pages and re-tasking the staff without telling the community what's going on is typical for them. It's both obvious AND plausible.

By "relaunch their facebook presence" I don't mean they'll simply turn the same pages back on after the new site is up, that's stupid. I'm fairly sure the pages will be in a different configuration - some will go, some will stay, or they'll all go and there'll be a single GW FB page.

"Bastion of logic?" You mean like GW's actions? There's no good business reason whatsoever for deleting your online social presence without warning.

Normal consumers who see things like that probably think the business is closing. Jaded insiders like us think moves like that are to squelch negative criticism, or else part of some convoluted plot to funnel sales. Absolutely nobody looks at the unheralded sudden deletion of social media and thinks "This is great news, they're relaunching everything but didn't want to cause consumer anxiety," mostly because it's complete crap.

Yes, you're right, that's complete crap, and I didn't say it. Thanks for taking the time to post that enlightening commentary.

I said - and I think I was perfectly clear - that I believe they rushed into closing the pages ahead of relaunching them with the new site later on, without keeping the customers in the loop, and that this was typically opaque behaviour. I didn't say I thought that was some kind of astute move - if anything I think I implied that I think the opposite. Show me where I said it was sensible, or that consumers would understand or know what was going on - you won't be able to because I didn't.

You picked up on "bastion of logic" - I think it's *totally* illogical to believe that there was some kind of internet scandal that Dakka COMPLETELY MISSED or that the pages were "too successful" (they really weren't that successful anyway) when we know that they're doing a general site relaunch very soon so it's most likely connected to that. It's got nothing to do with GW - I agree, GW do things in a pretty damn illogical way too. All the time. You can read all about it on here.

I'm surprised this not been uploaded already, I received an email from the events team at warhammer world.

New Website for Warhammer World.
Exciting news, as from April 7th Warhammer World will have a brand new website and blog, dedicated to the Warhammer World visitor centre. This will be the only place to find our event packs, event reviews and pictures, dates, details and news, so get this address in your bookmarks now!

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/
Note: there’s no www!

Warhammer World Newsletter
From April 7th Warhammer World will also have its very own newsletter. This is the best way for you to stay up to date with what we have planned and what’s new at Warhammer World, such as new stock in the store, event tickets, changes to opening hours, etc.

Be the first in line and sign up for the newsletter on April 7th

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/newsletter/

 Bull0 wrote:
Yes, you're right, that's complete crap, and I didn't say it. Thanks for taking the time to post that enlightening commentary.

I said - and I think I was perfectly clear - that I believe they rushed into closing the pages ahead of relaunching them with the new site later on, without keeping the customers in the loop, and that this was typically opaque behaviour. I didn't say I thought that was some kind of astute move - if anything I think I implied that I think the opposite. Show me where I said it was sensible, or that consumers would understand or know what was going on - you won't be able to because I didn't.

You picked up on "bastion of logic" - I think it's *totally* illogical to believe that there was some kind of internet scandal that Dakka COMPLETELY MISSED or that the pages were "too successful" (they really weren't that successful anyway) when we know that they're doing a general site relaunch very soon so it's most likely connected to that. It's got nothing to do with GW - I agree, GW do things in a pretty damn illogical way too. All the time. You can read all about it on here.

If you want to devolve into snarkiness, then we can all also thank you for your wonderfully condescending remarks. At this time, no one really knows what prompted GW's latest moves. Some of us posed speculation based on prior information and experiences, which apparently calls for you to speak with towering arrogance from a position of equal ignorance.

It's totally plausible someone posted something on one of the GW pages that upper management flipped out about. It might not even have been particularly offensive, maybe only a passing question about leaked information. It's also plausible it's just a botched relaunch in the best GW traditions. No one outside of GW knows.

Sorry, *I* devolved into snarkiness? When you started this confrontation by putting words in my mouth and proceeding to tell us how they were complete crap. And you wonder why I responded a bit condescendingly? Love your style.

And again, I still put *speculating that something somewhere might have happened, or else that this is some kind of shadowplay* below *it's probably to do with the site relaunch we know is happening* in terms of positions of relative logic or ignorance. You're welcome to disagree but you aren't going to convince me.

Anyway, I don't have anything further to add to this. Cheers

led571 wrote:
I'm surprised this not been uploaded already,
....
http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

Reds8n posted it at 26/Mar/2014 15:45:35 , on page 3.
Nice to hear they've sent emails out, too though.

The logical conclusion of the various social media closes is that they are being consolidated into one entity for the relaunch.

However, that doesn't mean a new social media presence necessarily, they are perhaps shifting the blogs etc onto the new site itself, it is much easier to integrate sales into the information that way.

It's daft whatever they are thinking, the only company I've ever heard who think too much customer interaction (and overwhelmingly positive as well) is an issue.

 Peregrine wrote:
That's not obvious at all, and isn't even very plausible. If you're going to re-launch soon you don't just close everything with no warning, you make big announcements about "coming soon, awesome new website" and "see you in a week" to build anticipation for the new stuff. In fact, why close them at all if it's just a re-launch? It's not like there's anything to be gained from doing so.

Actually it's completely plausible. Think about the company we're talking about, and therefore think which is more likely:

1. They relaunch their online presence without any warnings or previews.
2. They give previews and "coming soon" notices of their new website/social media presence.

Again, this is Games Workshop, which of the above two is more likely given GW's track record with everything it does.

 Bull0 wrote:
So Dakka thinks GW closed their facebook pages either because there was another massive scandal that it somehow completely missed, or because the pages were too successful.
Rather than the obvious conclusion that they'll relaunch their facebook presence after the new site launch in april.
Bastion of logic, this place

Please read the thread or at least the last 2 pages before posting.
1.) Noone claimed that a scandal was the reason for this wave of facebook quitting.
2.) FW customer service officially said that they cancelled their facebook page because it was too successfull and they don't have enough time for keeping it updated. Having not enough time means, they won't have enough time for relaunching it as well.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Please read the thread or at least the last 2 pages before posting.
1.) Noone claimed that a scandal was the reason for this wave of facebook quitting.

OK Kroot, I'll play along. Here are the posts I was referring to that read like speculation that a scandal was the reason for the pages closing:

Creeperman wrote:
Didn't they quit social media before, when attracting bad press over Spots the Space Marine? Sticking their heads into the sand and removing all ability to comment seems to be their default response to any negative publicity
I wonder what (if any) scandal prompted this latest overreaction?

 Kroothawk wrote:

Just for the record: GW main quit facebook a while ago, when their facebook page was flooded with negative comments on their legal action against "Spot the Space Marine".
A few days ago the facebook pages of GW Digital, Warhammer World and Forge World were deleted as well. This is what we are currently talking about, as esp. the GW Digital page was quite active and informative.

Creeperman wrote:
At this time, no one really knows what prompted GW's latest moves. Some of us posed speculation based on prior information and experiences...It's totally plausible someone posted something on one of the GW pages that upper management flipped out about. It might not even have been particularly offensive, maybe only a passing question about leaked information.

So they've shut down their facebook presence and instead opening their own blogs? I suppose that makes some sense - facebook isn't what it used to be, and as a way of organizing events it is a little cumbersome. I can see why they'd want their own archetecture.

Still, there was no reason they couldn't have a blog *and* a facebook page, unless they're determined to drive traffic to their own blog.

 Bull0 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

Please read the thread or at least the last 2 pages before posting.
1.) Noone claimed that a scandal was the reason for this wave of facebook quitting.

OK Kroot, I'll play along. Here are the posts I was referring to that read like speculation that a scandal was the reason for the pages closing:

Creeperman wrote:
Didn't they quit social media before, when attracting bad press over Spots the Space Marine? Sticking their heads into the sand and removing all ability to comment seems to be their default response to any negative publicity
I wonder what (if any) scandal prompted this latest overreaction?

 Kroothawk wrote:

Just for the record: GW main quit facebook a while ago, when their facebook page was flooded with negative comments on their legal action against "Spot the Space Marine".
A few days ago the facebook pages of GW Digital, Warhammer World and Forge World were deleted as well. This is what we are currently talking about, as esp. the GW Digital page was quite active and informative.

Creeperman wrote:
At this time, no one really knows what prompted GW's latest moves. Some of us posed speculation based on prior information and experiences...It's totally plausible someone posted something on one of the GW pages that upper management flipped out about. It might not even have been particularly offensive, maybe only a passing question about leaked information.

Your "Bastion of logic, this place" statement is what's caused this latest tempest in a tea cup.

And...weren't you done in here?

It was just a joke - I find the idea that "maybe something went down somewhere, at some point, and that's why they closed their pages" when we all know there's a site relaunch coming is illogical to the point of being worth making a joke about. There's plenty of reasoned logical discussion on dakka, I dig on it, it's why I'm here. Don't take it personally.

And yeah, I said I didn't have anything to add at that point, which I didn't. Then someone asked me a question, so I came back =)

Trying to predict what GW will do is difficult at this point. Whether it's social media, codex releases, or crazy-ass tracked models with steering wheels. I'd say "Follow the almighty dollar!" but 1) they use British Pound Moneys, and 2) some of their decisions leave me scratching my head. I can only blame: CHAOS!

Gw quit Facebook over ip issues and lack of creative control, along with the new website they will be releasing Finebook (tm).

And here is the new Warhammer World GW website

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

it's a good layout for Warhammer World. Good use of white space, lots of info without being cluttered.

I am a fan of the burger.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
And here is the new Warhammer World GW website

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

that's... a generic Wordpress. Wow. Budget cuts are a bitch, huh?

 Bull0 wrote:
So Dakka thinks GW closed their facebook pages either because there was another massive scandal that it somehow completely missed, or because the pages were too successful.

Rather than the obvious conclusion that they'll relaunch their facebook presence after the new site launch in april.

Bastion of logic, this place

They have never relaunched their forums, so it is not an obvious conclusion they will relaunch other social media channels.


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Navigation on the Warhammer World site is a bit "hum". No breadcrumb trail, for instance.

The main GW site doesn't look any different to me. Perhaps it hasn't been upgraded yet/ (11:30 in the morning, British Summer Time.)

 Purifier wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
And here is the new Warhammer World GW website

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

that's... a generic Wordpress. Wow. Budget cuts are a bitch, huh?

That was my first thought too..

It looks cheap and generic.

But think how much they saved by not having to warehouse all those pixels!

So, we're outside the normal working day here in the ol U of K, we gonna call this one?

We know there's an overhaul due, but specifically for today I meant.

 azreal13 wrote:
So, we're outside the normal working day here in the ol U of K, we gonna call this one?

We know there's an overhaul due, but specifically for today I meant.

Well if I were GW I wouldn't release it today just to spite people.