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Wow, nifty new site but even less content!

Sad to see free rules go the way of the dodo, maybe someone can make their pdfs available through some sort of deal wi-- I mean agreement with GAW.

Why are variations of combo kits now listed as separate unique products?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 tjnorwoo wrote:
Specialist games finally removed. GW lost its pulse.

BFG was my first real love for the 40k world...

Good thing I downloaded all of their PDF content. They did right by us by at least providing all of it free. Ive got tons of binders for all the old games.

Specialist games have been pretty dead since Epic, Necromunda, and Mordhiem were pulled from the site like two years ago now. This is just confirmation that they aren't going back (I suspect the fact that Dreadfleet didn't sell basically told GW that the community didn't want the Specialist Games anymore).

Which is silly, because no one asked for Dreadfleet; they wanted BFG.
GW's logic is backwards.

And BFG was still for sale for years and was hardly moving. They tried bring out something new and the public basically told them to take a walk with "new" stuff and they probably did a cost analysis on something like BFG and decided that it wasn't worth the money at the time to bring back or update since it wasn't really selling and the people who were playing it already had everything they needed to play it.

Remember this is the same company that almost canned Sisters in 3rd because the bean counters said they didn't sell that well in 2nd.

I just think Games Workshop has put all their eggs in one basket with 40k.

On the website itself - seems like another swing and a miss for GW.

They are a manufacturer and publisher of material first and foremost. They do very little to promote their brand. They fail on supporting the hobbies of gaming, modeling and even collecting. There is nothing to introduce interested parties to the fiction. You don't have useful tools for gaming (not even errata and FAQs for published books...something which I hear this edition has been in bad need of for every release).

From that perspective - it really is a poor website.

As an online store, it isn't horrible. I don't care for the particular layout, but some people do like it. However, it is very bland. Especially for a company who sells fantasy and science fiction toys. Office Depot and Staples websites have more personality than the GW site.

Still, it is fairly quick...accept when it hangs up. It stalled out loading pages three times for me while browsing around for less than 15 minutes. Don't try to change categories too fast - I think they have their DoS protections set at paranoid levels.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
They fail on supporting the hobbies of gaming, modeling and even collecting. .

That's because none of those things are a part of the 'GW Hobby' any more. As has been publicly stated by GW on several occasions now, the GW Hobby is about buying Games Workshop miniatures .

And for that purpose (aside from the idiocy of not importing their previous customer database) the new website seems adequate.

 insaniak wrote:
And for that purpose (aside from the idiocy of not importing their previous customer database) the new website seems adequate.

Wow, I didnt notice that. That is pretty silly.

It's a great online store that you'd attach to your main website. Sadly it seems that GW has no interest in actually having a website, instead they see themselves as just a place to buy things.

"Buy all our playsets and toys!"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a great online store that you'd attach to your main website. Sadly it seems that GW has no interest in actually having a website, instead they see themselves as just a place to buy things.

"Buy all our playsets and toys!"

That's was exactly how I felt viewing the new website. It just seems like any other online miniature store with a flashy layout. I was definitely hoping for more and am a bit disappointed that they didn't do something more with their site. Another swing and a miss by GW.

Not sure if anyone has touched on it. But seeing that they have numerous models that are now exclusive to the website. I find it hard to believe that FW will be avail to our FLGSs

GW's new site operates under the assumption that this new-fangled internet thing is just a fad. Indeed that mindset (the only company I've seen with this mindset) defines a lot of their policy.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

 Kelly502 wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

God forbid that some of us want a Games Workshop site that is more than just a glorified webstore. Maybe FAQ's, modelling articles, or anything other than stuff that you pay for?


Guess 99% of us are being totally unreasonable.

After futzing more with it... I like it. As a store that is. It has bigger pictures of sprues and I like the navigation. It is lacking a breadcrumb trail, which makes things easier to drill down and up.

But as an upgrade over what we had before? It's missing a massive pile of content. No bueno.

 Kelly502 wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

Yes. You are the 1%. Let that sink in.

 Kelly502 wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

Except want a gaming website, not another webstore. Go ahead and argue how no content and eliminating tutorials/FAQ's/etc. is a good thing though.

 Kelly502 wrote:
It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

And here's the white knight, ready to save poor GW from their evil critics.

Sorry, but GW's new website is pretty bad. It's adequate for buying stuff, though (apparently) a bit buggy for some people. But that's all it is, instead of developing a real website GW seems to be stuck in 1990 and willing to settle for having an adequate store. If you aren't a GW fanboy you can see three pretty big flaws:

1) Aesthetically it's disappointing. It's not the worst website ever, but it's far from the best. The information is badly presented, with lots of huge pictures that force you to scroll down to see everything. Meanwhile there's simultaneously a bunch of wasted white space, especially on the sides. The navigation approach is awkward, there's no convenient way to go straight to an army (or other category). Finally, it does absolutely nothing to establish GW's brand identity. You could sell any other random product with this store and nobody would notice the difference.

2) There's no reason to ever spend more than the bare minimum of time on it. If you want to buy something that you can't get at your FLGS you go buy it, but you never go there for any other reason. This is stupid, you want your customers to keep coming back as often as possible. It's the online equivalent of the principle that the longer a customer spends in your store the more likely it is that they'll buy something. But with all the FAQs and articles gone, and GW irrationally terrified of their customers having news about their products, why go there?

3) It's a terrible starting point for new players. Let's say you've just heard about this 40k thing for the first time, so you go to GW's website to learn more. And there you find a bland listing of all the products you can buy, nothing more. Where's the introduction to how awesome the grimdark future is? Where are the intro articles for new players? GW seems to think that the only time a new player will visit their website is at the in-store order screen with a helpful employee talking to them, and any random visitors who happen to find their website at home can be safely ignored. And that's just throwing away sales for no good reason.


Contrast this with a good gaming website, which should be considered a bare minimum for what you'd expect from the biggest company in the industry: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Summoner/. See any differences? The MTG website looks a lot better, and does a much better job of establishing its identity as MTG and not just a generic store. As soon as you arrive you see cool pictures and a "try it now" link, and there's plenty of content for both new potential customers and existing players.

I see no FAQs anywhere on the site were they taken down?
Or am I not looking hard enough?


Ah I see Harriticus already commented on this sorry, it's not just my eyes...

I just put in an order to get the "free" fig. Basically bought a bunch of upgrade sprues/bundles that I've been putting off for a while so it's not entirely a whimsical/impulse buy. Nothing I was in desperate need of, though.

And GW continues to convince itself the the Hobby really IS about buying their miniatures...

 SickSix wrote:
Why are variations of combo kits now listed as separate unique products?

I am wondering the same thing?

I was looking at all the Baneblade variants - seems like they're selling just the sprues to make that model?

 Harriticus wrote:

 Kelly502 wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

Except want a gaming website, not another webstore. Go ahead and argue how no content and eliminating tutorials/FAQ's/etc. is a good thing though.

It does beg the question on whether all those FAQs are still considered legit or just tossed aside.

 Breotan wrote:
I just put in an order to get the "free" fig. Basically bought a bunch of upgrade sprues/bundles that I've been putting off for a while so it's not entirely a whimsical/impulse buy. Nothing I was in desperate need of, though.

Once I put in the two things I wanted (Craters & new Guard Codex), I had to go searching for the last $32 or whatever it was I needed. most of the single-frame plastic characters are less than what I needed, and Nurglings are fething AUD$41 (WTF???). So I settled on some plastic Flamers, something I don't already own.

But yay, a nice plastic Captain mini! I'll make him into a Deathwatch character.

I don't like it on my iPad, but looks like it will be a good site on a reg computer.

Johnnytorrance wrote:
I don't like it on my iPad, but looks like it will be a good site on a reg computer.

Just tried navigating it on my iPad and it was clunky as hell. Good thing no one uses tablets to shop online.

The lack of any splash page is a little ridiculous to me. Without that page to introduce new people to the coolness of their games.....its really just another generic web store

 Kelly502 wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! This stuff cracks me up!

It worked just fine for me, I got what I needed from the site, it was quick, smooth, easy to use. Looked great, love the subfolders ease of use... GW swings and knocks it out of the park!! ...and 99% of the crowd still cries...

I might Exalt that just for the skill you have at trolling.

It doesn't seem to make any distinction whether or not the model is finecast or not. At least obviously as it was before.

Otherwise I like the site honestly.

Finally got on the site. Had to clear the cache and all.

I like it, hope they had some of the old content.

LOVE the promo figure!!!! I haven't bought hardly anything directly from GW, prefer to support the locals, but for him.....

I actually tried to count the skulls on him, I got to 45....I feel for that sculptor.

General Hobbs wrote:


Finally got on the site. Had to clear the cache and all.

I like it, hope they had some of the old content.

LOVE the promo figure!!!! I haven't bought hardly anything directly from GW, prefer to support the locals, but for him.....

I actually tried to count the skulls on him, I got to 45....I feel for that sculptor.

Well you will be ordering direct from GW more and more now as they have switched over all finecast models (as well as older metal models and a few others) to direct only sales.
40K there is 421 Direct only items
Fantasy there is 289 Direct only items
The Hobbit there is 181 Direct only items

That upsets me slightly

God, how bland, how lifeless...