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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/15 23:40:34
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Mechanized Halqa
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When I see some kickstarters I sometimes see that CMON is supporting it.
My question is how are they supporting kickstarters? Are they supplying captial to them.
All I understand is that its a giant miniature gallery that sell some models. And how did they become a producer of miniatures?
Sorry if my questions seems stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 13:21:31
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As well as being a mini gallery they are also an online retailer and a game publisher
so with their publishers hat on they will supply funding (and manufacturing and marketing experience) to game designers who have a new idea
in return they get a slice of the profits from every item sold
Now being a publisher is expensive, you have to pay out a load of cash upfront which you may never get back (if the game flops or get back only slowly (if the game does OK but is not a big hit)
so rather than only being able to afford to publish a big game every couple of years CMON has turned to KS.
They fun the new game as normal, but rather than waiting for retail they put their new games on KS part way through the design/production process and run a slick campaign which pulls in money.
This money pays off their investment in the game, and probably clears some profit for the company which means they then have the cash to spare for another new game (or big expansion of an existing game)
so rather than 1 game every couple of years they can do 3-4 per year
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/17 22:15:53
Subject: Re:Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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From what I see the kick starter support part means that CMON has pledged a high amount of their money to some kick starter they like.
The real question is why they decided to skip the many masterful historical figures pegaso has produced and stock the company's sexist Girls line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 12:21:58
Subject: Re:Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Sslimey Sslyth
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sing your life wrote:From what I see the kick starter support part means that CMON has pledged a high amount of their money to some kick starter they like.
The real question is why they decided to skip the many masterful historical figures pegaso has produced and stock the company's sexist Girls line.
Because history has shown them that historical figures will not sell and "sexist Girls" will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 17:33:02
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bothell, WA
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CMON is changing, what they'll become remains to be seen.
I recall early on that they (or some of their staff) wanted to "Kill Privateer Press" but I think that was more likely the result of disgruntled ex-PP staff (of which there are many).
I think they could work on increasing their level of "professionalism" overall.
Contacting freelance sculptors for work then never returning e-mails, IMHO, isn't very professional. It would be one thing if their work wasn't up to spec, but as far as I could tell from their portfolios that wasn't the case. If the portfolio's weren't, then why contact them to begin with?
As far as Kickstarter, which ones have they done? I've backed a few but I'm not sure if CMON had been involved with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 18:05:49
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Master Tormentor
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CMON has 9 Kickstarters under their belt now:
Wrath of Kings
Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster
Arcadia Quest
Kaosball
Zombicide
Zombicide: Season 2
Relic Knights
Guilds of Cadwallon
Rivet Wars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 18:09:26
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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They also had Tentacle Bento(with SodaPopMinis), but it was pulled from kickstarter, and SPM ran it through their website.
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Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
Plus other games- miniature and cardboard both. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 19:08:34
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bothell, WA
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Ahh, OK.
I backed the Sedition Wars and Relic Knights Kickstarters.
Still anxiously awaiting my Arena Rex, Kingdom Death and Robotech miniatures!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 20:04:31
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sinful Hero wrote:They also had Tentacle Bento(with SodaPopMinis), but it was pulled from kickstarter, and SPM ran it through their website.
No, that was just Sodapop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 21:22:33
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cyporiean wrote: Sinful Hero wrote:They also had Tentacle Bento(with SodaPopMinis), but it was pulled from kickstarter, and SPM ran it through their website.
No, that was just Sodapop.
I stand corrected. So CMoN had no involvement in the kickstarter at all ?
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Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
Plus other games- miniature and cardboard both. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 21:25:33
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sinful Hero wrote: Cyporiean wrote: Sinful Hero wrote:They also had Tentacle Bento(with SodaPopMinis), but it was pulled from kickstarter, and SPM ran it through their website.
No, that was just Sodapop.
I stand corrected. So CMoN had no involvement in the kickstarter at all ?
Correct, take a look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 04:31:19
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Laughing Man wrote:CMON has 9 Kickstarters under their belt now:
Wrath of Kings
Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster
Arcadia Quest
Kaosball
Zombicide
Zombicide: Season 2
Relic Knights
Guilds of Cadwallon
Rivet Wars
Out of interest, how many of those have been fulfilled to completion?
I know Zombicide S1 and Sedition Wars are complete, and know a few of the others are partially shipped at this point, but not sure if any others are yet complete?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 04:35:52
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Azazelx wrote: Laughing Man wrote:CMON has 9 Kickstarters under their belt now:
Wrath of Kings
Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster
Arcadia Quest
Kaosball
Zombicide
Zombicide: Season 2
Relic Knights
Guilds of Cadwallon
Rivet Wars
Out of interest, how many of those have been fulfilled to completion?
I know Zombicide S1 and Sedition Wars are complete, and know a few of the others are partially shipped at this point, but not sure if any others are yet complete?
Zombicide S2's 2nd half is currently shipping out, the first half of Rivet Wars has been delivered.. No idea about Guilds or Kaosball, but i think they've both had a 1st shipment. Wrath of Kings and Relic Knights are both 'Soon'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 05:35:17
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Guilds shipped about 2 months early. Wrath of Kings is still on time. I didn't back Kaosball so I'm not sure.
Relic Knights is...well... Relic Knights. Automatically Appended Next Post: And FWIW, Zombicide S2 Wave 2 was originally planned to ship out in Q1 2014, so it is also on time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 07:30:23
Subject: Cool Mini Or Not Questions
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Krazed Killa Kan
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You can think of CMON as both having the extra money, and as consultants that kind of specialize in producing flashy kickstarters.
A lot of stuff they're affiliated with sign up with CMON to do the big production on the kickstarter.
Although they do make their own games.
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