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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 17:47:46
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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What units are really effective in dealing with them consistently? Fought against one using the double D weapon flamer templates in a multiplayer game and it decimated more than half the army by itself (the board was prearranged and very little LOS blocking terrain).
I was thinking 10 sternguard with combis in a drop pod & storm talons, is there anything else anyone can think of - or have a link to a discussion thread similar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 17:50:29
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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There has been a discussion of this topic by jy2.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 18:16:04
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The only real answer is Centurions with grav cannons. Ideally with a divination psyker.
You could theoretically send 3-4 squads of bikers with grav guns at it.
Anything else just fails for lack of rate of fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 21:18:41
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, don't think the Necron player is stupid. He will see it coming.
Against a drop pod army, the C'tan could be held in reserve or the Necrons form some kind of bubble wrap. Also Centurii need a ride to come rather close enough.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/16 21:19:24
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 21:39:05
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Executing Exarch
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Grav cents in a stormraven will do some serious work on Transcendent C'Tan. Just jump out and shoot it when the stormraven comes on.
Another good answer is grav/combi grav bikers. Not as much damage but they have the numbers to absorb some casualties.
A warhound is probably the most efficient answer though.
Also stronghold assault gives void shields which can help to mitigate the D weapons for a turn.
Remember that the Necron player can reserve his C'Tan to protect it from grav but you can reserve your grav even better with outflank and flyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 21:46:00
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Warhound is best.
A centstar could work, but you need a lot of shots to get through the 4++
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 22:06:47
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Executing Exarch
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BrotherHaraldus wrote:Warhound is best.
A centstar could work, but you need a lot of shots to get through the 4++
3 dev cents with just the grav cannons will deal out ~4.5 wounds on average without any support. If you happen to have a nearby prescience psyker the unit you will average a dead Trans C'Tan in one turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 23:26:59
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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ansacs wrote: BrotherHaraldus wrote:Warhound is best.
A centstar could work, but you need a lot of shots to get through the 4++
3 dev cents with just the grav cannons will deal out ~4.5 wounds on average without any support. If you happen to have a nearby prescience psyker the unit you will average a dead Trans C'Tan in one turn.
You're forgetting FNP, so it's more like 4-5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 23:41:11
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Mavnas wrote: ansacs wrote: BrotherHaraldus wrote:Warhound is best.
A centstar could work, but you need a lot of shots to get through the 4++
3 dev cents with just the grav cannons will deal out ~4.5 wounds on average without any support. If you happen to have a nearby prescience psyker the unit you will average a dead Trans C'Tan in one turn.
You're forgetting FNP, so it's more like 4-5.
4-5 what?
Turns to kill it?
Wounds on average dealt?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/16 23:50:39
Subject: SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Cents to kill it. If they don't get it down first turn the necron player would be very dumb to let you have another go at it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/17 00:43:54
Subject: Re:SM killing Transcendent C'tans in Escalation
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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I didn't think that war hounds were lords of war and could not be taken in escalation just apoc?
by the time I pay for cents & a storm talon I might as well bring a super heavy points wise & money wise, how do you guys think a fellblade (since its a lord of war) would work?
I play white scar bikers and my force at 1500 points is normally a khan & command squad with 4 grav, 3 grav bike squads, 3 melta bike squads, 2 storm talons ..... I think the double shot D templates + underestimating how durable it was is what really hurt.
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