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I haven't gone through all the pages of these rumors to see if this was mentioned. Khorne Berzerkers come with 1 attack. Yeah they get +2 attacks on the charge, but they rarely get used because they stink in this edition.

My biggest fear in this new codex is our standard old boyz will get dropped to 1 attack. So, two with close combat weapon, and three on the charge. This would be really sad. Ive seen the rumors about choppas giving +1 strength? So the trade off is four str 3 attacks vs 3 st 4 attacks.

I'm just getting a bad feeling...

 Phydox wrote:
My biggest fear in this new codex is our standard old boyz will get dropped to 1 attack. So, two with close combat weapon, and three on the charge. This would be really sad. Ive seen the rumors about choppas giving +1 strength? So the trade off is four str 3 attacks vs 3 st 4 attacks.

Surely it's four S 4 attacks vs. three S 5 attacks (charging with Furious Charge) or three S 3 attacks vs. two S 4 attacks (not charging)? That ends up being pretty much exactly the same against T 4 opponents.

Avian wrote:
WDW confirms no new starter box.
Someone lied to Faeit.
Again.

Burn him once, shame on you.
Burn him twice, shame on him.
Burn him like 200 times...

....and he gets lots of hits on his site ?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
....and he gets lots of hits on his site ?

Pretty much. Him and Vela.

With the official announcement of the new rule book out, we should really start seeing something about orks now. would you people agree?

Being primarily an Ork player, I'm dying for some actual news.

 matphat wrote:
With the official announcement of the new rule book out, we should really start seeing something about orks now. would you people agree?

Being primarily an Ork player, I'm dying for some actual news.

Not really. It'll probably be 2-4 weeks before we see anything.

 pretre wrote:

Not really. It'll probably be 2-4 weeks before we see anything.

With the book rumored for June? I'm expecting to see hints and teasers in the next White Dwarf.

It is unlikely to be in June in anything but a technical sense (preorder 3 weeks in, actual release end of month/beginning of June). So yeah.

As much as i would love it, i doubt they will release the ork dex that close to 7th edition. it will probably end up late july or something.

Have to admit the +1 str to choppa boyz is interesting. If they dont cut the normal strenght back or number of attacks, i could see it being pretty valuable considering now you wound most models on a 3 and most of whats left on a 4 (on the charge). Also, if those points are true, theyre cheaper than shoota boyz so sending a batteringram trukk to die is less costly with choppas than shootas. Doesnt sound like much but who pays attention to their boyz without having ~120 of them on the field lol, thats ~120pts to put somewhere else.

Killa Kans elites....i will probably field the crap out of them if thats true. I love kans, but theyre hard to field due to FOC limitations.

 Kosake wrote:
I'm really not sure whether this is intended, more likely just abusing of RAW. The wording looks too much like something you'd write if you didn't even have the idea to give the big shoota to the nob.

The FAQ clarifies that you can, it's the same way you get a PK nob in a group of shoota boyz. The codex itself even shows a nob with a PK and a big shoota, and GW only just discontinued the PK\big shoota nob a few days ago.

-A boy swaps his slugga for a big shoota
-That boy is upgraded to a nob keeping the choppa and big shoota
-Choppa is swapped for a Power Klaw.
-The Nob now has both a PK and a big shoota.

I have a horrible feeling we're going to lose some named characters, like Zogwort, for example.

 Squidbot wrote:
I have a horrible feeling we're going to lose some named characters, like Zogwort, for example.

Indeed, Badrukk, Snikrgot, and Zagstruk are likely to be moved over to HQs to fill space.

With the new Gitz models, I wouldn't be surprised to see Badrukk get a promotion.

 Phydox wrote:
I haven't gone through all the pages of these rumors to see if this was mentioned. Khorne Berzerkers come with 1 attack. Yeah they get +2 attacks on the charge, but they rarely get used because they stink in this edition.

My biggest fear in this new codex is our standard old boyz will get dropped to 1 attack. So, two with close combat weapon, and three on the charge. This would be really sad. Ive seen the rumors about choppas giving +1 strength? So the trade off is four str 3 attacks vs 3 st 4 attacks.

I'm just getting a bad feeling...

I really hope they dont drop the base attacks and give rage like they did with bersekers. Though i think its less likely considering there are no good (and likely wont be any) good lists that dont have a core of boys as thats almost literally our only troop choice.

You are all hearing that 40k Radio is pew pewing the rumor about Orks being in a new starter this year... right?
If anything, I think that is good news. It would take forever to get modular, plastic Meganobs if press-fit ones were included in a starter.

It will be a while before we see any orks I think. Besides so far we got absolutely no help for assault in 7th ed so far, so there will have to be some big help in the way of the ork codex. Hopefully some one got the bit about consolidating into assault mixed up and this is the new ork WAAAAGH rule or something cause if WAAAAGH remains fleet than I think a new codex really won't help us much anyway.


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I thought the new WDW confirmed that DV was going to remain the starter and they were going to be putting the 7th ed rules in it?

 Anpu-adom wrote:
You are all hearing that 40k Radio is pew pewing the rumor about Orks being in a new starter this year... right?
If anything, I think that is good news. It would take forever to get modular, plastic Meganobs if press-fit ones were included in a starter.

Why would you need them to be anything other than press-fit? Meganobs have virtually no options and not many people are going to field them in large enough numbers that duplicate poses are a big issue.

I was actually hoping for press-fit biker nobs and a biker warboss though. I think it's terribly unlikely we will get them any other way.

 Squidbot wrote:
I have a horrible feeling we're going to lose some named characters, like Zogwort, for example.

Well, Zogwort doesn't have a miniature currently, but according to recent leaks psychic powers are a really big thing in 7th, so I doubt GW will pass the chance to use him to introduce a handful 7th edition psychic tricks. Wazdakka, however, is pointless now that Unbound makes his only useful skill redundant. If anyone is going, it will probably be him.

Do we know for sure that our release is coming soon (June or July)?

It has been my experience that redshirts are very seldom "in the know," but the boss at my local GW swears that Orks are going to be later in the year. Like, Thanksgiving.

Grim.

i doubt they'd sack ol' zoggy. 7th ed seems to be big on psykers, and hes the only named psyker in ork existance (far as i know anyway). They wouldnt remove him and buff of weirdboyz, thatd be too funky.

Besides, hes been useless long enough. I want to field a badass ork that doesnt need a PK to kill things lol.

i know in the 3rd edition Armageddon book there was an ork character(fluff only, wasn't playable) named Orkamedies (spelling?). he was a tactician type advisor to Ghaz, but idk if he was a psycher or not. could be a character they bring into table top life.

I'm not sure about all of GW fluff, but are there any new special characters they gave rules to that were previously only mentioned in fluff?

 zachwho wrote:
i know in the 3rd edition Armageddon book there was an ork character(fluff only, wasn't playable) named Orkamedies (spelling?). he was a tactician type advisor to Ghaz, but idk if he was a psycher or not. could be a character they bring into table top life.

I'm not sure about all of GW fluff, but are there any new special characters they gave rules to that were previously only mentioned in fluff?

He was a Bigmek, but on the same sort of scale that Gaz is a Warboss. Shadowy figure rumored to exist and hunted by the emperium. He could be a great character to use for an HQ that was a mek instead of a boss. But i doubt we will see him.

Specialised in Tellyporta Arrays i think, worked for Nazdreg?

Not 100% on that. It's been a while since i read the ork fluff.

not sure on the nazdreg bit, but yes he was the ork behind the tellyportas. he would be one cool ass character in game!

 Ascalam wrote:
Specialised in Tellyporta Arrays i think, worked for Nazdreg?

Not 100% on that. It's been a while since i read the ork fluff.

I think I read that too. Are there many named characters in other codices that arent HQ? Dont think so. Iirc, there's the odd SM sergant and... uh... I think IG had also some named sergants that werent HQ. But that's pretty much it, isn't it? I allways felt that Badrukk or the other named orks should be HQ instead of overpriced nobs.

There's Longstrike too.

Hm... Looks like there wont be a price increase when the models come however... because they're doing it right now! Almost every ork model in the store has gotten a price increase it seems.

 Kosake wrote:
Hm... Looks like there wont be a price increase when the models come however... because they're doing it right now! Almost every ork model in the store has gotten a price increase it seems.

Not in the UK store yet, but if that's happening then it suggests to me that Orks are not far out. I still maintain June, late July at the latest.

 Kosake wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Specialised in Tellyporta Arrays i think, worked for Nazdreg?

Not 100% on that. It's been a while since i read the ork fluff.

I think I read that too. Are there many named characters in other codices that arent HQ? Dont think so. Iirc, there's the odd SM sergant and... uh... I think IG had also some named sergants that werent HQ. But that's pretty much it, isn't it? I allways felt that Badrukk or the other named orks should be HQ instead of overpriced nobs.

Talon is a named scout option for ultrasmurfs, Grey Knights can have a buffed power armored squad leader whose name has slipped from my mind. Corbulo is an elite choice, and I think there is another non-HQ character in the SW codex.

I really hope them becoming HQs though, would make them A LOT more usable. Badrukk leading a unit of lootaz, Snikrot sneaking in with a unit of nobz or Zagstrukk jumping alongside a unit of bikers all sounds great to me.