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I hate to say it, but I'll be very surprised to see a buggy kit. Especially a Meganobz/Buggy box. That seems a assortment. Seems very much like wish listing.

Accolade, those are lovely.

same here, won't see it working in my army at the moment.

 Red Corsair wrote:
IDK I think people are being unfair with this guy. He is AV13 with 5HP, that is the equivalent to T9 in AV. If you give those grot rigger and a KFF that thing is not going to be dying and in 7th it scores. You can also hide a grot squad in its belly until last turn and grab another objective.

Due to the change to objective placement in 7th I think most games will favor the mid field more and this guy will be tough to move.

What is strangest to me though are the rules interactions. will its contents be stuck inside when it is in assault? How do stompas work in that regard?

That's one of the things I was discussing with my buddy yesterday. They're going to have to come up with a whole new set of rules for how a Walker acts as a transport. Some stuff is probably fairly obvious, such as not allowing troops to disembark if it runs. But other things such as what happens when it's in Assault are more up in the air. I don't know how that works with the Stompa right now.

Looks like this is our taurox

 loki old fart wrote:
Looks like this is our taurox

Taurox for me, Orkbot for you, my units were crap and yours now are too....

 loki old fart wrote:
Looks like this is our taurox

which means?

As we can see some new Meganobz in the picture from the Morkonaut, would you say there is definetly a new Box for them?

I really like the look of that walker. The idea of an all mech, stomping Ork army is actually quite awesome.

The Taurox is the new buggy. They were playing us all!

 Kosake wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Looks like this is our taurox

Taurox for me, Orkbot for you, my units were crap and yours now are too....

How many does a taurox carry ?

I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

New Ork Clan: Kemikal Bromance. Led by Warboss Eeyore, Da Kemikal Bromance (or 'Dem Emo Boyz', as Warboss Eeyore is fond of saying) are a clan unlike any other. They use their mouth more than their Choppas, and have brought whole Star Systems to their knees through the power of Negative Warp Energy.

The clan is known for also wearing Black, but stick out from Goffs because of their tight fitting pants. Most of their scarring is also located running across their forearms.

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

I think its a lot of a general "my favourite army will get all the bad descisions for the next 10 years to come"-dread involved. But then again, lets look at the last dexes:
- IG lost characters and got a dumb APC they didn't need at all
- Nids lost characters and judging by the all-around tone, turned out pretty weak
- CSM divided between auto-include units and stuff you'd only take for sentimental reasons, as well as some stupid rules (duels, spawnhood)
- SoB lost I think some units and got.... nothing at all? correct me if I'm wrong.

So there's some precedence to base your scepticism on.

Nah we are more of a Boyz band

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

 loki old fart wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

omg... we will get lootas with High explosive shells... D3 blast templates s7ap 3

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

I think the Doom and Gloom is coming from the fact that 6th Edition really hit Orks over the head hard. We got an awesome flier model, but crappy rules, and overcosted points for it.

I don't think Ork players are convinced that GW is going to address the serious shortcomings that Orks have in 7th Edition now, which is still an edition dedicated to shooting like 6th was. I think we're all afraid GW is just going to give us more of what we already have... big shootas, rokkits, etc... no weapons above S8 or below AP3 that have the volume of fire necessary to actually kill something when you're firing it at BS2.

And then on top of not giving us anything, they'll keep the prices on all our weapons high, as if they were being fired by models that have BS4 instead of BS2. A Kustom Mega Blasta, S8 AP2 shot with Gets Hot! might be a worthwhile upgrade at 15 points for a Space Marine who is firing it at BS4, and has a 3+ save to protect it from the Get's Hot! result. Orks have no such thing. Such a weapon isn't worth 15 points to us, but that's what GW will likely still cost them at.

It's that sort of philosophy that I'm just dreading will get applied to the entire Ork codex.

We need something to help us in Assault to get over the fact that 7th Edition still screws us with wound allocation. We're not even safe inside our Battlewagons any longer, although at least now a Lascannon won't have a 50% chance of blowing them up outright.

We need better shooting besides just "More Lootas". Lootas are really all we have anymore.

My Orks have been on the shelf for a year. I'm really sad about that. I really want to play with them. l'm excited for the new release, but I'm just not optimistic.

If the Gorkanaut / Morkanaut was in the 180-200 point range, I'd feel much better about where we were headed. But you're talking about almost 300 points for a Morkanaut with a KFF upgrade. It might be a fun unit to use, but I just think it's costed really high.

We'll see though.

 wallygator wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

omg... we will get lootas with High explosive shells... D3 blast templates s7ap 3

I.m hoping for quad gun on a half track.
But not holding my breath.

 loki old fart wrote:

 wallygator wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

omg... we will get lootas with High explosive shells... D3 blast templates s7ap 3

I.m hoping for quad gun on a half track.
But not holding my breath.

looks orky enough. the barrels even have the right length and size for GW's taste

 loki old fart wrote:

 wallygator wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

omg... we will get lootas with High explosive shells... D3 blast templates s7ap 3

I.m hoping for quad gun on a half track.
But not holding my breath.

We have that allready. Forgeworld Dreadmob, flakka-trukk or whatever it's called. Orky AA trukk that can go flat out and still fire with full BS at fliers. It's on my scratchbuild-list, as soon as I get other stuff done.

 Squidbot wrote:
I hate to say it, but I'll be very surprised to see a buggy kit. Especially a Meganobz/Buggy box. That seems a assortment. Seems very much like wish listing.

Sadly, I don't think there'll be a Buggy kit either. I just hope their rules are good enough to kitbash a few more of them, though.

Though I would love a buggy kit, they are so easy to scratch build or kit bash, I almost don't care.









Not my best work, but it'll do pig, it'll do.

Is there a buggy cult that I am missing out on? I play orks and I have never fielded them due to the weaknesses of getting glanced to death. Should I be putting them on the table?

dunno, but i like previous models alot

 zammerak wrote:
Is there a buggy cult that I am missing out on? I play orks and I have never fielded them due to the weaknesses of getting glanced to death. Should I be putting them on the table?

Honestly, I don't field them for their durability. I field them for the twin linked rokkits, the target saturation, LOS blocking, mobile cover, and mobility. They are under powered, but not over costed, and are a pain in the ass to my opponent who either needs to spend precious shooting to take em out, OR ignore them while they needle vehicles to death.

Buggies and their variants are great, I've had lots of fun with them and there are a lot of sneaky tactics to be employed.

As to where this will be true come the release of the new book we can only speculate.

However on the basis of that rubbish robot I am concerned about GW's model design team and its relationship to the games development team. both seem to be waaay off what people want.

shame.

again.


that said - I still hold some hope as i know the main man of 40k has a big soft spot for orks.

Some very un-orky behaviour going on here

 matphat wrote:
Though I would love a buggy kit, they are so easy to scratch build or kit bash, I almost don't care.

Yes, they are but every new vehicle kit is a valuable treasure trove of new bitz, gunz and gubbinz. That's why I want to see a new kit.

I thought it would be based on the drawing in the imperial armour book but that came out ages ago and here we are still with no new buggy/trakk kit.

I enjoy using the skorcha trakk the most.

 Kosake wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:

 wallygator wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I know a lot of people are in a doom and gloom mood today, but really, if we look back on the last three or four new codex releases, haven't they all been pretty good over all? Am I missing something there? Do we have recent historic codex examples of why the sky is falling?

Tell that to tyranids.

AM got taurox we got gork n mork,
Am got ogryns we got manz
AM got wyvern we get ?

omg... we will get lootas with High explosive shells... D3 blast templates s7ap 3

I.m hoping for quad gun on a half track.
But not holding my breath.

We have that allready. Forgeworld Dreadmob, flakka-trukk or whatever it's called. Orky AA trukk that can go flat out and still fire with full BS at fliers. It's on my scratchbuild-list, as soon as I get other stuff done.

I meant something more like this

With a bit of this mixed in
Enclosed cab half track with quad gun