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**Orkhead**

Don't get your hopes up for Deff kopptas they used the 2nd ed models picture in codex.
Hey did anyone else read that a BigMek w/ KFF in veichle only affects the Viechle so if your BigMek is in a truck No KFF Bubble.

**Jidmah**

Yes, it's one of the first rules posted. Not surprising, considering that the DA Forcefield generator got the same treatment.

**jspyd3rx**

The DA one works projecting out again. Restriction was removed from current faq.

**Watching Paint Dry**

ciaflayed1 wrote:
The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

My money is on a Big mek box like the Shokk Attack gun... same price, large single sprue charactor with big mek options.

I think you'll see a warboss in that format too (small box, single sprue, all the options).

I also expect to see a warbuggy, deffkopta, wartrakk triple kit some time soon.

**Jambles**

Watching Paint Dry wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

My money is on a Big mek box like the Shokk Attack gun... same price, large single sprue charactor with big mek options.

I think you'll see a warboss in that format too (small box, single sprue, all the options).

I also expect to see a warbuggy, deffkopta, wartrakk triple kit some time soon.

I think you're going to be disappointed.

I want all these things too. But if they're not releasing them alongside this new codex, we're pretty fethed until the next one I'd imagine. After the 4th edition codex came out, we had no new releases for six years...

**Jadenim**

Just browsing through the iBook and I've noticed that the meks in a burna squad have gained the options for killsaw; might try that out as an interesting assault unit in a truck; three armourbane powerklaw backed up with a bunch of template/power weapons has some potential I think

**Brother Weasel**

Jambles wrote:
Watching Paint Dry wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

My money is on a Big mek box like the Shokk Attack gun... same price, large single sprue charactor with big mek options.

I think you'll see a warboss in that format too (small box, single sprue, all the options).

I also expect to see a warbuggy, deffkopta, wartrakk triple kit some time soon.

I think you're going to be disappointed.

I want all these things too. But if they're not releasing them alongside this new codex, we're pretty fethed until the next one I'd imagine. After the 4th edition codex came out, we had no new releases for six years...

Cept the dakkajet

**jhnbrg**

Jambles wrote:
Watching Paint Dry wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

My money is on a Big mek box like the Shokk Attack gun... same price, large single sprue charactor with big mek options.

I think you'll see a warboss in that format too (small box, single sprue, all the options).

I also expect to see a warbuggy, deffkopta, wartrakk triple kit some time soon.

I think you're going to be disappointed.

I want all these things too. But if they're not releasing them alongside this new codex, we're pretty fethed until the next one I'd imagine. After the 4th edition codex came out, we had no new releases for six years...

I am sure there have been some new releases after the last codex, kans? flyers? AoBR? Nobz?

**Brother Weasel**

jhnbrg wrote:
Jambles wrote:
Watching Paint Dry wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

My money is on a Big mek box like the Shokk Attack gun... same price, large single sprue charactor with big mek options.

I think you'll see a warboss in that format too (small box, single sprue, all the options).

I also expect to see a warbuggy, deffkopta, wartrakk triple kit some time soon.

I think you're going to be disappointed.

I want all these things too. But if they're not releasing them alongside this new codex, we're pretty fethed until the next one I'd imagine. After the 4th edition codex came out, we had no new releases for six years...

I am sure there have been some new releases after the last codex, kans? flyers? AoBR? Nobz?

When did the storm boyz come out?

**Jambles**

I did forget about the dakkajet, dreads and black reach, fair enough. The new Nobz box came out with the 4th ed codex for sure, I don't know about the storm boyz.

I still don't think we're going to see any more new models for a while.

**jhnbrg**

Jambles wrote:
I did forget about the dakkajet, dreads and black reach, fair enough. The new Nobz box came out with the 4th ed codex for sure, I don't know about the storm boyz.

I still don't think we're going to see any more new models for a while.

Tbh i didnt expect 7:th edition this year either

**decker_cky**

The new Nobz came out well after AoBR. Storm boyz were much later too.

Here's the Ork releases from this thread:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?297915-Games-Workshop-40K-Release-Timeline-(Mk-II)

January 2008: Orks (4th edition) (PK)
*Orks - Warbikers (SP & DS)
*Orks - Trukk (TA & DS)
*Orks - Lootas/Burnas (SP)
*Orks - Tankbustas (MH)
*Orks - Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun (SP)
*Orks - Weirdboy (DT)
*Orks - Painboy (MH)
*Orks - Bomb Squigs (MH)
*Orks - Nob with WAAAGH! Banner (DT)

September 2008: Assault on Black Reach
*Orks - Warboss
*Orks - Deff Koptas
*Orks - Nobz

January 2009
*Orks - Nobz (SP)
*Orks - Stormboyz (MF & DT)
*Orks - Gretchin (MA)
*Orks - Battlewagon (TA, SP & DS)
*Orks - Kaptin Badrukk (MF)
*Orks - Boss Snikrot (SP)
*Orks - Boss Zagstruk (SP)

March 2009: Apocalypse Redux
*Orks - Stompa (AM, EC, BK, JM, SP & MA)

May 2009: Imperial Guard (5th edition) (RC)
Orks - Grot Ammo Runts (MF)

March 2010
*Orks - Killa Kans (DS)
*Orks - Deff Dread (DS & SP)
Orks - Flash Git with Targeting Squig (MHo)

December 2010
Orks - Inquisitive Grots (SP)
Orks - Thieving Grots

June 2012
*Orks - Blitza-Bommer/Dakkajet/Burna-Bommer (JG, NH, DL & DS)

June 2014: Orks (6th/7th edition)
Orks - Gorkanaut/Morkanaut
Orks - Mega-Armoured Nobz
Orks - Flash Gitz
Orks - Mek Gunz
Orks - Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun
Orks - Mek
Orks - Painboy

Honestly...while they haven't had a new book, Orks have done very well in terms of releases since the last codex (not great since the January 2009 release admittedly, but still a decent amount for not having an armybook).

**forgotten ghosts**

i cant wait to order a few boxs of mega nobz, did there squad size get a bump?

**Jambles**

What was the squad size before? I never saw more than 3 or 5, what with trukk size restrictions...

**forgotten ghosts**

10 man same as nob squad

**Jidmah**

Squad size is 3-10 just like before.
One Meganob now is a Boss Nob, which is basically the same as a regular Meganob, except for character status, so have fun challenging stuff with a 2+ armor PK.

**Jambles**

Jidmah wrote:
Squad size is 3-10 just like before.
One Meganob now is a Boss Nob, which is basically the same as a regular Meganob, except for character status, so have fun challenging stuff with a 2+ armor PK.

I have two of the old metal meganobs (one kombi-skorcha, one reg'lar) and I was going to pick up a box of the new ones to get the unit to 5. I knew I wanted to give at least one of them PK+killsaw... now I know exactly which one to give it to

**rhavien**

Someone mentioned about 50 pages in the past, that burnaboyz can use their flamer and still have AP3 in melee in the same round? Never seen anyone talking about that again. Was it just a hoax? If that's true those hot fellas would be really cool now!

**frgsinwntr**

soooo... I have the codex in hand... its AWFUL...

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IT...

Burna is now ALWAYS AP 3 in combat... but not if you shoot first.... sorry edit

you have to choose like before to use it as either shooting or close combat... can't do both

**Rubs**

frgsinwntr wrote:
soooo... I have the codex in hand... its AWFUL...

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IT...

Burna is now ALWAYS AP 3 in combat... but not if you shoot first.... sorry edit

I'll disagree. There are some things that are worse and better. To say its awful before you've had a couple games, isn't fair.

Come back in a couple of months, after you've had more than 1 game.

I'm actually pretty excited to get some games in this weekend to see how the new codex is.

The sky isn't falling where I'm at.

**angryboy2k**

frgsinwntr wrote:

Burna is now ALWAYS AP 3 in combat... but not if you shoot first.... sorry edit

you have to choose like before to use it as either shooting or close combat... can't do both

Wasn't it always that way?

**ciaflayed1**

rhavien wrote:
Someone mentioned about 50 pages in the past, that burnaboyz can use their flamer and still have AP3 in melee in the same round? Never seen anyone talking about that again. Was it just a hoax? If that's true those hot fellas would be really cool now!

I can confirm that, AP3 if they do NOT fire in the shooting phase.

**pretre**

Yeah, that's the same as before...

**frgsinwntr**

angryboy2k wrote:
frgsinwntr wrote:

Burna is now ALWAYS AP 3 in combat... but not if you shoot first.... sorry edit

you have to choose like before to use it as either shooting or close combat... can't do both

Wasn't it always that way?

correct.

As far as the snarky "come back when you play some..." I'm pretty sure I've played more than enough games of 40k to know when something stinks this bad...

**ciaflayed1**

angryboy2k wrote:

Wasn't it always that way?

It used to count as a power weapon, no armor saves. Now it's just AP3, so a slight nerf.

**frgsinwntr**

ciaflayed1 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:

Wasn't it always that way?

It used to count as a power weapon, no armor saves.

incorrect, it was an unusual power weapon that was AP 3 if you didn't shoot.

**ciaflayed1**

frgsinwntr wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:

Wasn't it always that way?

It used to count as a power weapon, no armor saves.

incorrect, it was an unusual power weapon that was AP 3 if you didn't shoot.

"A burna may be used in the shooting phase with the profile below, or as a power weapon in an assault, but not both in the same turn." What page lists it as AP3, I have my old Codex in front of me.

**A Town Called Malus**

Didn't Burnas also have an extra D6 armour penetration inCC? Or was that only in the 3rd Ed book...?

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ciaflayed1 wrote:
frgsinwntr wrote:
ciaflayed1 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:

Wasn't it always that way?

It used to count as a power weapon, no armor saves.

incorrect, it was an unusual power weapon that was AP 3 if you didn't shoot.

"A burna may be used in the shooting phase with the profile below, or as a power weapon in an assault, but not both in the same turn." What page lists it as AP3, I have my old Codex in front of me.

The main rulebook said any weapon which was a power weapon with extra, unusual rules (or didn't fit into sword, axe, maul, spear category) was AP3, unless specified otherwise.

That's if I remember it correctly.

**whembly**

ciaflayed1 wrote:
rhavien wrote:
Someone mentioned about 50 pages in the past, that burnaboyz can use their flamer and still have AP3 in melee in the same round? Never seen anyone talking about that again. Was it just a hoax? If that's true those hot fellas would be really cool now!

I can confirm that, AP3 if they do NOT fire in the shooting phase.

Are they still AP3 if they were used during "Wall-o-death" if assaulted?

**ciaflayed1**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Didn't Burans also have an extra D6 armour penetration? Or was that only in the 3rd Ed book...?

I can't verify that in last Codex, so I would have to say no. I find nothing to support that, may have been 3rd, I started with Orks when the last Codex dropped.